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  • fordfixer
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    • May 2008
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    Ben doesn't belittle Ward's sore hammy

    Notebook: Ben doesn't belittle Ward's sore hammy

    By: Mike Bires
    Beaver County Times
    [url="http://www.timesonline.com/sports/sports_details/article/1424/2009/december/09/notebook-ben-doesnt-belittle-wards-sore-hammy.html"]http://www.timesonline.com/sports/sport ... hammy.html[/url]
    Wednesday December 9, 2009 12:21 AM

    PITTSBURGH — Talk about irony. Ten days after Hines Ward questioned Ben Roethlisberger’s toughness, the shoe was on the other foot.

    Due to a grade 1 hamstring pull, Ward is questionable for Thursday night’s game in Cleveland.

    When asked about Ward’s injury, Roethlisberger didn’t cause a controversy like Ward did on Nov. 29.

    “Hines will do what’s best for Hines, I’m sure,” Roethlisberger said Tuesday. “I don’t want Hines to be hurt. I want him out there playing. But if he can’t play, he can’t play.”

    Before the Steelers played in Baltimore, Ward said he was disappointed that Roethlisberger didn’t play because “it’s just a concussion.” Ward also said the Steelers’ locker room had a 50/50 split over Roethlisberger not playing against the archrival Ravens.

    Ward, who was hurt on the next-to-last play in Sunday’s 27-24 loss to Oakland, is listed as questionable for the game against Cleveland. He did not practice Tuesday but may try to work out today.

    “You know me, I’m a competitor,” Ward said. “People on this team know that I’m a competitor. I’ll try to do all I can to play. I’m going to do all I can to be out there. Never count me out.

    “But I have to be smart at the same time,” Ward added. “If I don’t feel I’m capable of playing, I won’t go out there and jeopardize more games the rest of the year.”

    If Ward can’t play, rookie Mike Wallace will start in his place.

    Limas Sweed would be the No. 3 receiver and unless there’s a last-minute roster move, Stefan Logan, who’s been strictly used a kick return specialist, would be the No. 4 wideout.
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    WHAT CHANGES?

    At his press Monday press conference, coach Mike Tomlin said there would be personnel changes in an attempt to end the Steelers’ four-game long streak. But based on Tuesday’s practice, it’s hard to gauge what changes, if any, will be made in the starting lineup.

    Both starting corners — Ike Taylor and William Gay — practiced with the first-team defense. Tomlin said that because Gay suffered a concussion Sunday, that he would likely be replaced by rookie Joe Burnett.

    “I went through all the (concussion) tests and the doctors allowed me to practice,” Gay said. “I didn’t have any headaches today, so I’m aiming to play.”

    Burnett said that he hasn’t been told if he’ll start, but said, “I’m ready.”

    Meanwhile, Tomlin also insinuated that Taylor might be replaced because of his performance against the Raiders. But Taylor said he expects to start.

    Burnett and fellow rookie Keenan Lewis did get plenty of reps at practice Tuesday. Rookie tackle Ramon Foster took plenty of snaps at right tackle. But Foster said that he split time with Willie Colon because Colon’s back is a little sore.

    OTHER INJURIES

    For the first time since breaking his left wrist in the Nov. 22 loss in Kansas City, back-up QB Charlie Batch practiced. Although the Steelers’ injury report listed him as a full participant, Batch was clearly limited with what he could do.

    It’s very unlikely he’ll be in uniform Thursday.

    Also, RB Rashard Mendenhall was limited at practice with an ankle injury, but he’s expected to start.

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  • NC Steeler Fan
    Starter
    • May 2008
    • 642

    #2
    Re: Ben doesn't belittle Ward's sore hammy

    Glad to see Charlie is healing up.

    I know some people think he's a weak link, but I say he's still worth
    a lot to us!
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    • NWNewell
      Backup
      • Sep 2009
      • 384

      #3
      Re: Ben doesn't belittle Ward's sore hammy

      Ben may not have belittle Ward, but the comment "Hines will do what's best for Hines, I'm sure" wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement. More like a shot across the bow.

      Before I heard that comment, I sort of shrugged off all the talk about the tension between them thinking, hey they may not be best friends, but you never are with everyone you work with. Some are just acquaintances that you probably wouldn't chose to hang out with. And that Ward's comments last week were more spawn from frustrations and mis-communication, and they way they handled last minute issue.

      But I'm starting to think there really is a bit of a rift between them.

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      • Iron Shiek
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 3798

        #4
        Re: Ben doesn't belittle Ward's sore hammy

        I've completely ignored all of this bull crap that Hines "called" out Ben. The media has taken this thing way out of proportion. So I've chosen to ignore it. I still can't believe people are bringing it up. And now of course Hines is hurt, so all the media talking corpses can't wait to hear Ben call Hines out and are praying he will. Go freakin report some news instead of giving us your wishes on a "scism" that doesn't exist. Total bag of donkey $hit in my mind this whole store is.
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        • feltdizz
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 27532

          #5
          Re: Ben doesn't belittle Ward's sore hammy

          Originally posted by Iron Shiek
          I've completely ignored all of this bull crap that Hines "called" out Ben. The media has taken this thing way out of proportion. So I've chosen to ignore it. I still can't believe people are bringing it up. And now of course Hines is hurt, so all the media talking corpses can't wait to hear Ben call Hines out and are praying he will. Go freakin report some news instead of giving us your wishes on a "scism" that doesn't exist. Total bag of donkey $hit in my mind this whole store is.
          sorry but Hines called out Ben....
          Holmes called out Ben...
          I remember Ben calling out Holmes right after he was drafted and got in trouble.
          Ben also just called out Hines with the "Hines will do what's best for Hines"

          and yet.....it all means nothing cause Ben still throws to them and they still try to catch them.
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          • sd steel
            Starter
            • May 2008
            • 912

            #6
            Re: Ben doesn't belittle Ward's sore hammy

            The difference is a concussion is an injury that you can still perform your job with, and a pulled hamstring is something that can hinder your performance. If Hines has a pulled hamstring he can't play because he can't run. A week old concussion on the other hand is something that could give you lasting effects if you take another noggin shot, but shouldn't have any impact on you playing today. If you don't want concussions, don't play football, because it happens to everyone....except William Gay because he will always slip before having to make a tackle.

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            • grotonsteel
              Hall of Famer
              • Jul 2008
              • 2810

              #7
              Re: Ben doesn't belittle Ward's sore hammy

              Originally posted by sd steel
              The difference is a concussion is an injury that you can still perform your job with, and a pulled hamstring is something that can hinder your performance. If Hines has a pulled hamstring he can't play because he can't run. A week old concussion on the other hand is something that could give you lasting effects if you take another noggin shot, but shouldn't have any impact on you playing today. If you don't want concussions, don't play football, because it happens to everyone....except William Gay because he will always slip before having to make a tackle.
              I am not a concussion expert but i think concussion should impact a QB performance.
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              • sd steel
                Starter
                • May 2008
                • 912

                #8
                Re: Ben doesn't belittle Ward's sore hammy

                Originally posted by grotonsteel
                Originally posted by sd steel
                The difference is a concussion is an injury that you can still perform your job with, and a pulled hamstring is something that can hinder your performance. If Hines has a pulled hamstring he can't play because he can't run. A week old concussion on the other hand is something that could give you lasting effects if you take another noggin shot, but shouldn't have any impact on you playing today. If you don't want concussions, don't play football, because it happens to everyone....except William Gay because he will always slip before having to make a tackle.
                I am not a concussion expert but i think concussion should impact a QB performance.

                Well I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV, and a concussion would not impact any players performance a week out. If a concussion was that severe, he wouldn't be able to practice great for 3 days prior to the game. And it's not like Ben does alot of thinking in the pocket.

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                • stlrz d
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 9244

                  #9
                  Re: Ben doesn't belittle Ward's sore hammy

                  Wow is there some serious BS being posted here in regards to concussions.

                  Love those "no concussion would ever stop me" tough guy, message board posters.

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                  • RuthlessBurgher
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 33208

                    #10
                    Re: Ben doesn't belittle Ward's sore hammy

                    Originally posted by sd steel
                    The difference is a concussion is an injury that you can still perform your job with, and a pulled hamstring is something that can hinder your performance. If Hines has a pulled hamstring he can't play because he can't run. A week old concussion on the other hand is something that could give you lasting effects if you take another noggin shot, but shouldn't have any impact on you playing today. If you don't want concussions, don't play football, because it happens to everyone....except William Gay because he will always slip before having to make a tackle.
                    I guess you must have missed the play where Gay had to leave the Raider game because he suffered a concussion.
                    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                    • sd steel
                      Starter
                      • May 2008
                      • 912

                      #11
                      Re: Ben doesn't belittle Ward's sore hammy

                      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                      Originally posted by sd steel
                      The difference is a concussion is an injury that you can still perform your job with, and a pulled hamstring is something that can hinder your performance. If Hines has a pulled hamstring he can't play because he can't run. A week old concussion on the other hand is something that could give you lasting effects if you take another noggin shot, but shouldn't have any impact on you playing today. If you don't want concussions, don't play football, because it happens to everyone....except William Gay because he will always slip before having to make a tackle.
                      I guess you must have missed the play where Gay had to leave the Raider game because he suffered a concussion.
                      I'm talk about a concussion that happened a week earlier, not one that you received minutes ago, smarta$$.

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                      • sd steel
                        Starter
                        • May 2008
                        • 912

                        #12
                        Re: Ben doesn't belittle Ward's sore hammy

                        Originally posted by stlrz d
                        Wow is there some serious BS being posted here in regards to concussions.

                        Love those "no concussion would ever stop me" tough guy, message board posters.


                        Well unlike you, message board dorks, I have played football at a high level, so I know what my body is capable of. You can normally perform fine 24 hours after a concussion, and it was pretty obvious that Ben's was pretty minor, as compared to Gay's last week.

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                        • NWNewell
                          Backup
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 384

                          #13
                          Re: Ben doesn't belittle Ward's sore hammy

                          [quote=sd steel]
                          Originally posted by grotonsteel
                          Originally posted by "sd steel":2pzl6f64
                          The difference is a concussion is an injury that you can still perform your job with, and a pulled hamstring is something that can hinder your performance. If Hines has a pulled hamstring he can't play because he can't run. A week old concussion on the other hand is something that could give you lasting effects if you take another noggin shot, but shouldn't have any impact on you playing today. If you don't want concussions, don't play football, because it happens to everyone....except William Gay because he will always slip before having to make a tackle.
                          I am not a concussion expert but i think concussion should impact a QB performance.

                          Well I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV, and a concussion would not impact any players performance a week out. If a concussion was that severe, he wouldn't be able to practice great for 3 days prior to the game. And it's not like Ben does alot of thinking in the pocket.[/quote:2pzl6f64]


                          Ever heard of a guy named Merril Hoge?


                          Something tells my I'm merely with this reply.

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                          • RuthlessBurgher
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 33208

                            #14
                            Re: Ben doesn't belittle Ward's sore hammy

                            [quote=NWNewell]
                            Originally posted by sd steel
                            Originally posted by grotonsteel
                            Originally posted by "sd steel":18xc2u3r
                            The difference is a concussion is an injury that you can still perform your job with, and a pulled hamstring is something that can hinder your performance. If Hines has a pulled hamstring he can't play because he can't run. A week old concussion on the other hand is something that could give you lasting effects if you take another noggin shot, but shouldn't have any impact on you playing today. If you don't want concussions, don't play football, because it happens to everyone....except William Gay because he will always slip before having to make a tackle.
                            I am not a concussion expert but i think concussion should impact a QB performance.

                            Well I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV, and a concussion would not impact any players performance a week out. If a concussion was that severe, he wouldn't be able to practice great for 3 days prior to the game. And it's not like Ben does alot of thinking in the pocket.

                            Ever heard of a guy named Merril Hoge?


                            Something tells my I'm merely with this reply.[/quote:18xc2u3r]

                            Stop banging your head against that wall! You'll get a concussion.
                            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                            • NWNewell
                              Backup
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 384

                              #15
                              Re: Ben doesn't belittle Ward's sore hammy

                              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                              Originally posted by NWNewell
                              Originally posted by sd steel


                              Well I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV, and a concussion would not impact any players performance a week out. If a concussion was that severe, he wouldn't be able to practice great for 3 days prior to the game. And it's not like Ben does alot of thinking in the pocket.

                              Ever heard of a guy named Merril Hoge?


                              Something tells my I'm merely with this reply.
                              Stop banging your head against that wall! You'll get a concussion.
                              That's ok... I can still be back here posting away with no ill effects.

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