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  • fordfixer
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    • May 2008
    • 10922

    Reed's latest incident embarrassment to Steelers

    Reed's latest incident embarrassment to Steelers
    Tuesday, October 20, 2009
    By Ron Cook, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
    [url="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09293/1006802-87.stm"]http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09293/1006802-87.stm[/url]

    News of another alleged police incident involving Steelers kicker Jeff Reed brought to mind Indianapolis Colts quarterback Peyton Manning saying so famously of teammate Mike Vanderjagt in 2003, "He's a good kicker, but he's an idiot ... We're talking about our idiot kicker who got liquored up and ran his mouth off."

    If Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger said that same thing about Reed, no one would argue.

    Not today.

    Not after Reed was given multiple citations Sunday night for simple assault, resisting arrest, disorderly conduct and public intoxication outside of McFadden's bar on the North Shore, according to Pittsburgh police.

    The incident, in which Reed allegedly harassed the cops as they tried to issue a citation to teammate Matt Spaeth for public urination and was put to the ground and handcuffed for his trouble, is Reed's second in eight months. He pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct and criminal mischief after beating up a towel dispenser in a Sheetz store in February in New Alexandria. One such incident might be brushed off as an isolated lapse in judgment. But two, if these charges are legitimate? That's an embarrassment, not just to Reed, but to the Steelers. It's also a distraction that the team doesn't need as it appears to be starting on a roll with three consecutive wins after a 1-2 start to the season.

    Television crews from WTAE and WPXI were at the Steelers' South Side compound early yesterday. They weren't there to look back at the 27-14 win against the Cleveland Browns Sunday or to look ahead to the big game with the unbeaten Minnesota Vikings Sunday at Heinz Field. They were there because Reed appears to have acted like, well, an idiot.

    Again.

    Not exactly the way Steelers coach Mike Tomlin wanted to start his work week.

    Neither Reed nor anyone with the Steelers commented yesterday. Reed's Atlanta-based agent, Don Henderson, told the Post-Gazette that Reed was wrongfully detained and will "contest" the charges.

    It is believed that Reed -- a Steelers captain -- apologized for the distraction to his coaches and teammates during the team's usual Monday meeting. That's about all he could do at that point. The damage to his reputation and the team's already had been done, even if his case still must be resolved in the legal system.

    An NFL spokesman said the league is aware of Reed's citations and is investigating. It fined him $10,000 for the February incident for violating its personal-conduct code, he revealed during training camp. It's fair to think he'll be hit for $25,000 this time, if he's guilty.

    Reed should feel lucky if he is not suspended. He could get a game for sheer stupidity, if nothing else. For putting himself in a position where he has to defend himself against these kinds of charges.

    "I don't want people to think I'm that kind of person," Reed said in August of the Sheetz incident. "That's not the way I was raised and this organization doesn't tolerate it. It won't happen again."

    But did it?

    Reed's timing for making this kind of news couldn't be worse, not just for the team's sake but his. He's in the final year of his contract and will be a free agent at the end of the season. He has said repeatedly he wants to stay with the Steelers.

    He has a strange way of showing that, doesn't he?

    I've been a big supporter of Reed's for a long time, publicly lobbying the Steelers to do a new deal with him. His consistency on the field has been remarkable, one bad day in Chicago Sept. 20, when he missed two field goals in a tough, 17-14 loss, aside.

    But Reed's consistency off the field, if you will, is enough to make you wonder if he has any chance of a future with the Steelers beyond this season. The team shouldn't have to keep dealing with the headaches he causes. Tomlin had to think the first one would be the last one after the two had a little man-to-man talk after Reed's towel tantrum.

    "They were great about it," Reed said in August of the support he received from Tomlin and Steelers president Art Rooney II. "They just told me, 'You've done so much for this organization. Just be smart. Be careful out there. You're more of a public figure than you realize.' "

    Apparently, Reed wasn't paying attention that day. At least not to the "Be careful out there, you're a public figure" part.

    That's inexcusable.

    Reed is no kid. He turned 30 April 9. If he has a problem with alcohol and/or anger-management, he should get help. If he doesn't, he should grow up.

    He should do one or the other before it's too late for his career.

    Read more: [url="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09293/1006802-87.stm#ixzz0USLAtTIv"]http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09293/10 ... z0USLAtTIv[/url]

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  • papillon
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    • Mar 2008
    • 11340

    #2
    Re: Reed's latest incident embarrassment to Steelers

    Spaeth and Reed...

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    • Oviedo
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 23824

      #3
      Re: Reed's latest incident embarrassment to Steelers

      Originally posted by papillon
      Spaeth and Reed...

      Pappy
      You mean Dumb and Dumber don't you.
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      • proudpittsburgher
        Pro Bowler
        • May 2008
        • 2377

        #4
        Re: Reed's latest incident embarrassment to Steelers

        It's pretty simple, actually. Strip that C off his jersey and make sure the team knows it. Tell him he has to earn it back. See how he reacts. It's time to grow up, skippy. You are playing chicken with the wrong organization.
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        • papillon
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          • Mar 2008
          • 11340

          #5
          Re: Reed's latest incident embarrassment to Steelers

          Originally posted by Oviedo
          Originally posted by papillon
          Spaeth and Reed...

          Pappy
          You mean Dumb and Dumber don't you.
          Yea, a 6'7" tight end urinating in public isn't going to be very inconspicuous. That's worse than Reed trying to help him and being drunk.

          Pappy
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          4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
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          • SanAntonioSteelerFan
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            • May 2008
            • 8361

            #6
            Re: Reed's latest incident embarrassment to Steelers

            Originally posted by proudpittsburgher
            It's pretty simple, actually. Strip that C off his jersey and make sure the team knows it. Tell him he has to earn it back. See how he reacts. It's time to grow up, skippy. You are playing chicken with the wrong organization.
            I like this idea a lot, it is a total embarassment to the Steelers to have him be a captain.

            Can the Steelers take that away, isn't it a player-bestowed "honor"? I suppose the management can do whatever they want, but it will have to be done with sensitivity, otherwise it could turn into a sensitive issue.


            We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!

            HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!

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            • JTP53609
              Pro Bowler
              • Sep 2009
              • 1888

              #7
              Re: Reed's latest incident embarrassment to Steelers

              i would take the "C" off of drunky in a heartbeat, i would think they are allowed to, i would give that "C" to keyaron fox with no hesitation, he is the leader on special teams....

              and reed is an embarassment to the steelers, just as vanderjagt got liquored up and embarassed the colts, our kicker is now starting to do the same thing....

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              • Oviedo
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                • May 2008
                • 23824

                #8
                Re: Reed's latest incident embarrassment to Steelers

                Love the idea of sitting his butt on the bench when the captains go out for the coin flip. I'd make it a more than one game thing.

                I'd also find a way to punish Spaeth. Maybe sit him for a quarter and let Johnson take his plays if he is ready.
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                • flippy
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                  • Dec 2008
                  • 17088

                  #9
                  Re: Reed's latest incident embarrassment to Steelers

                  Reed was acting as a captain.

                  He was protecting Spaeth.

                  He was going to fight the cop to defend Spaeth.

                  Isn't Reed's dad a little to blame for stopping the car to allow Spaeth to take a leak?

                  And what cop gives you a citation for peeing?

                  If a guy has to go, let him take care of business, right?

                  Unless he's peeing all over the place on stuff, then I can understand.

                  But if he's peeing on a tree or a bush, why fine him?

                  Reed was probably just standing up for common sense.

                  So he tried to go all Mr Miyagi on the cop.

                  Mr Miyagi didn't get arrested when he save Daniel-san from an arse beating from the Cobra Kai did he?

                  Spaeth is the real embarassment here.

                  Letting a kicker fight your fight?

                  C'Mon man.

                  It's not like Skippy is Sepulveda.

                  Then it would at least be a bit more understandable.

                  Cause Sepulveda is ripped.
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                  • papillon
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 11340

                    #10
                    Re: Reed's latest incident embarrassment to Steelers

                    Originally posted by flippy
                    Reed was acting as a captain.

                    He was protecting Spaeth.

                    He was going to fight the cop to defend Spaeth.

                    Isn't Reed's dad a little to blame for stopping the car to allow Spaeth to take a leak?

                    And what cop gives you a citation for peeing?

                    If a guy has to go, let him take care of business, right?

                    Unless he's peeing all over the place on stuff, then I can understand.

                    But if he's peeing on a tree or a bush, why fine him?

                    Reed was probably just standing up for common sense.

                    So he tried to go all Mr Miyagi on the cop.

                    Mr Miyagi didn't get arrested when he save Daniel-san from an arse beating from the Cobra Kai did he?

                    Spaeth is the real embarassment here.

                    Letting a kicker fight your fight?

                    C'Mon man.

                    It's not like Skippy is Sepulveda.

                    Then it would at least be a bit more understandable.

                    Cause Sepulveda is ripped.
                    Are you defending this behavior?

                    Pappy
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                    3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                    3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                    4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                    5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                    7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

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                    • flippy
                      Legend
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 17088

                      #11
                      Re: Reed's latest incident embarrassment to Steelers

                      Originally posted by papillon
                      Originally posted by flippy
                      Reed was acting as a captain.

                      He was protecting Spaeth.

                      He was going to fight the cop to defend Spaeth.

                      Isn't Reed's dad a little to blame for stopping the car to allow Spaeth to take a leak?

                      And what cop gives you a citation for peeing?

                      If a guy has to go, let him take care of business, right?

                      Unless he's peeing all over the place on stuff, then I can understand.

                      But if he's peeing on a tree or a bush, why fine him?

                      Reed was probably just standing up for common sense.

                      So he tried to go all Mr Miyagi on the cop.

                      Mr Miyagi didn't get arrested when he save Daniel-san from an arse beating from the Cobra Kai did he?

                      Spaeth is the real embarassment here.

                      Letting a kicker fight your fight?

                      C'Mon man.

                      It's not like Skippy is Sepulveda.

                      Then it would at least be a bit more understandable.

                      Cause Sepulveda is ripped.
                      Are you defending this behavior?

                      Pappy

                      sure, but I'm not serious....
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                      • RuthlessBurgher
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 33208

                        #12
                        Re: Reed's latest incident embarrassment to Steelers

                        Originally posted by JTP53609
                        i would take the "C" off of drunky in a heartbeat, i would think they are allowed to, i would give that "C" to keyaron fox with no hesitation, he is the leader on special teams....

                        and reed is an embarassment to the steelers, just as vanderjagt got liquored up and embarassed the colts, our kicker is now starting to do the same thing....
                        Key Fox is already a captain. The team named 2 offensive captains (Ben and Hines), 2 defensive captains (Farrior and Harrison), and 2 special teams captains (Reed and Fox).
                        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                        • JTP53609
                          Pro Bowler
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 1888

                          #13
                          Re: Reed's latest incident embarrassment to Steelers

                          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                          Originally posted by JTP53609
                          i would take the "C" off of drunky in a heartbeat, i would think they are allowed to, i would give that "C" to keyaron fox with no hesitation, he is the leader on special teams....

                          and reed is an embarassment to the steelers, just as vanderjagt got liquored up and embarassed the colts, our kicker is now starting to do the same thing....
                          Key Fox is already a captain. The team named 2 offensive captains (Ben and Hines), 2 defensive captains (Farrior and Harrison), and 2 special teams captains (Reed and Fox).

                          haha i realized that after i typed it and hoped nobody would notice that i said it.....

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                          • pfelix73
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                            • Aug 2008
                            • 3458

                            #14
                            Re: Reed's latest incident embarrassment to Steelers

                            Well, we noticed it...... so phooey on you!

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                            • pfelix73
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                              • Aug 2008
                              • 3458

                              #15
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                              Actually, I didn't until Ruthless brought it up. You can't get anything by that guy....
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