It will be tough getting to Favre in time

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  • Shoe
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 4044

    #16
    Re: It will be tough getting to Favre in time

    Originally posted by Jooser
    The will be to get out in front of them quick.
    That's what I think too. Give Ben the ball... let him win the game for us.

    If we can get up on them, it does take some of the weight of AP, and put it on Favre--which is what we want. The Favre love-fest is quite overrated. He is still pretty good; and he is an all-time great--but he's made out to be something he is not.

    He will make mistakes. He may make some big plays too, but I feel better putting the onus on him.
    I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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    • NWNewell
      Backup
      • Sep 2009
      • 384

      #17
      Re: It will be tough getting to Favre in time

      To be honest, Minnisota's game is not that prolific.

      Their offense is 14th (348yd/g) with rushing 9th and passing 17th (though don't let the passing rank fool you, they can pass better than that, Farve is completing 70% of his passes for 109 rating... and he's been liking the underneath stuff this year). Their offense is fairly balanced and you can't make them one dimentional. They'll get some yards and some points.

      Their defense is 18th (341yd/g) with rushing 9th and passing 24th. So as well as our passing game as been playing, we should be able to put up some yards and points. Our running game should at least be able to keep them honest.

      Their net yardage is a meger 7yds/g. But their biggest assest is playing mistake free up to this point in the season. They are +8 in the TO department and the gunslinger has only thrown 2 INT's. We have to hold onto the football next week. TURNOVERS WILL KILL US. Minnisota will not give the ball right back like the Browns. I hope Tomlin is horse whiping them this week over ball security. (And I hope Ben keeps it under control too).

      So if we take care of the ball next week, I like our chances. But if we have more than 1 TO on Sunday, I'll be pretty worried. Also, I'm a little worried about the field position game. Minnisota's special teams is playing much better than ours overall.

      TO and special teams are the X factors. If we keep those in check, we will take care of the Vikings. If not, we'll be 4-3 going into the break.

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      • stlrz d
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 9244

        #18
        Re: It will be tough getting to Favre in time

        Originally posted by Shoe
        Originally posted by Jooser
        The will be to get out in front of them quick.
        That's what I think too. Give Ben the ball... let him win the game for us.

        If we can get up on them, it does take some of the weight of AP, and put it on Favre--which is what we want. The Favre love-fest is quite overrated. He is still pretty good; and he is an all-time great--but he's made out to be something he is not.

        He will make mistakes. He may make some big plays too, but I feel better putting the onus on him.
        Teams have been stacking the LOS to make Favre beat them...just like they've been doing to us to make Ben beat them.

        I hope LeBeau doesn't make that mistake. Play the run straight up, stay disciplined and get after Favre. That's the way to shut them down.

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        • NWNewell
          Backup
          • Sep 2009
          • 384

          #19
          Re: It will be tough getting to Favre in time

          Originally posted by stlrz d
          I hope LeBeau doesn't make that mistake. Play the run straight up, stay disciplined and get after Favre. That's the way to shut them down.

          I agree. Show a few packages with Troy up there blitzing just to make Farve think about him, but for the most part, play a balanced game.

          I don't think we will overract to AP. I think LeBeau knows he is most dangerous in the opened field. I'd rather not stack the box and play him straight up at the line, and have extra persuers in case he does get to that second level, and make Farve go through an extra progression. If we don't, AP will gouge up a few times and our pass rush may not have time to get there. Our front 7 is doing a good job stuffing the run. Let Minnisota prove they can beat our front 7 before we commite too many more men.

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          • Shoe
            Hall of Famer
            • May 2008
            • 4044

            #20
            Re: It will be tough getting to Favre in time

            Well, I'm not saying we should stack the line necessarily. I want us to come out, guns blaring (i.e. the Colts '05 playoff game) where we let Ben air it out. Once we have the lead, then I feel much better playing Favre/AP.
            I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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            • RuthlessBurgher
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 33208

              #21
              Re: It will be tough getting to Favre in time

              Originally posted by stlrz d
              Originally posted by steelblood
              I'm more worried about Ben holding it too long against that Minnesota pass rush. He could get sacked 8-10 times if he holds it like he did yesterday. I don't want him getting injured. They better install some good screens.
              He held it so long against the Browns because he could. The line was giving him time to look.

              Originally posted by fezziwig
              It's always tough getting to a QB when you have no pass rush.
              [url=http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=O PP&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&defensiveStatis ticCategory=SACKS&season=2009&seasonType=REG&tabSe q=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go]Sure about that[/url]?
              Third in the league ain't bad, but note that we are playing the two teams that are tied for first in sacks in the next two games (it's amazing how one elite pass rusher can impact an overall defense like Jared Allen, Elvis Dumervil, and James Harrison can). Ben needs to stop double pumping for a couple of weeks and just take the underneath stuff. If not, he'll really need the bye week in between those two games to recuperate.
              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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