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  • Mister Pittsburgh
    Hall of Famer
    • Jul 2008
    • 3674

    #16
    Re: Still have hope for Sweed

    To me it comes down to what he does in practice, which none of us see. If he is catching everything thrown to him in practice, and had a couple big drops in games, I am sure he will be given every opportunit to redeem himself. If he is dropping half the passes thrown his way in practice, then he will quickly be written off as a bust.

    Plus lets face it, chances are one of the starting WR will miss some time this year so he will get some more chances this season.
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    • Mel Blount's G
      Pro Bowler
      • May 2008
      • 1056

      #17
      Re: Still have hope for Sweed

      I hope he can recover mentally from the psych-obstacles he's set up for himself. I was concerned whether he'd be able to recover from it prior to the drop against the bungs. Now, my confidence that he'll overcome this "problem" is very low. Of course I really hope to be proven way off on this. He seems to have all the other necessary attributes to make him a successful NFL player.


      And I can't say I agree that the future of our WR core depends on his recovery. I believe there are always WR gems hiding in NFL drafts i.e. Mike Wallace, Marques Colston, Hines Ward, etc..

      Honestly, I'd like to see him start the next game with plays designed to get him the ball right out of the gate. The only way for him to progress is for him to face his fear in the real game setting. I truly believe that the longer he sits the worse it's going to get for him. Throw him the ball right off the los ala the throws Hines and Wallace get. Let him get a few "gimmees" under his belt, if there are such throws/catches for Limas right now
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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27531

        #18
        Re: Still have hope for Sweed

        Honestly... The anger over sweed and mend was legit. We went off of what we saw in games. There seems to be a group of people who ignore facts and visual proof to jump T the chance to say they were right about a pick. We all want our picks to pan out but until they do we will reserve the praise.

        Just seems like some of us react to game film while others react to potential and unseen film. I'll cheer when I see Sweed catch an open TD in a GAME!!! Just like I cheered mendenhall in a Game..
        Troy, Timmons, Holmes, etc...

        I can't cheer what I don't see...
        Steelers 27
        Rats 16

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        • stlrz d
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 9244

          #19
          Re: Still have hope for Sweed

          React and over react are two very different things.

          "I'm concerned about Sweed's inability to hold onto the ball" is reacting.

          "Sweed should be cut" is over reacting.

          Now you know.

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          • JTP53609
            Pro Bowler
            • Sep 2009
            • 1888

            #20
            Re: Still have hope for Sweed

            if we are up this week like how i expect us to be, than we need to put him in the game and have him catch some balls, i really think he will be okay, just gets some confidence in him...

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            • steelsnis
              Starter
              • Dec 2008
              • 980

              #21
              Re: Still have hope for Sweed

              I guess I just don't see the value in ripping a guy or booing him when he's on your favorite team.

              I know it's every fan's right to cheer or boo as they see fit but I just never understood how booing a guy if he screws up is going to make him play any better.

              It may make you feel better but it certainly won't help the player.

              Now, that being said, what the coaches do w/him behind closed doors is another matter, but it doesn't seem to be Tomlin's M/O to scream and yell at his guys.

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              • papillon
                Legend
                • Mar 2008
                • 11340

                #22
                Re: Still have hope for Sweed

                Originally posted by Mel Blount's G
                I hope he can recover mentally from the psych-obstacles he's set up for himself. I was concerned whether he'd be able to recover from it prior to the drop against the bungs. Now, my confidence that he'll overcome this "problem" is very low. Of course I really hope to be proven way off on this. He seems to have all the other necessary attributes to make him a successful NFL player.


                And I can't say I agree that the future of our WR core depends on his recovery. I believe there are always WR gems hiding in NFL drafts i.e. Mike Wallace, Marques Colston, Hines Ward, etc..

                Honestly, I'd like to see him start the next game with plays designed to get him the ball right out of the gate. The only way for him to progress is for him to face his fear in the real game setting. I truly believe that the longer he sits the worse it's going to get for him. Throw him the ball right off the los ala the throws Hines and Wallace get. Let him get a few "gimmees" under his belt, if there are such throws/catches for Limas right now
                I like this plan right here, give him confidence by calling his number and saying, "what's in the past is in the past, lets move forward." If they continue to let him sit and not give him chances he will become less confident. I hope he gets his chances; if he fails, he fails, I don't believe he will if given the opportunity. I've seen him make some pretty difficult catches in the pre-season games, so the ability is there.

                Pappy
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                The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

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                • Mister Pittsburgh
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 3674

                  #23
                  Re: Still have hope for Sweed

                  Originally posted by papillon
                  Originally posted by Mel Blount's G
                  I hope he can recover mentally from the psych-obstacles he's set up for himself. I was concerned whether he'd be able to recover from it prior to the drop against the bungs. Now, my confidence that he'll overcome this "problem" is very low. Of course I really hope to be proven way off on this. He seems to have all the other necessary attributes to make him a successful NFL player.


                  And I can't say I agree that the future of our WR core depends on his recovery. I believe there are always WR gems hiding in NFL drafts i.e. Mike Wallace, Marques Colston, Hines Ward, etc..

                  Honestly, I'd like to see him start the next game with plays designed to get him the ball right out of the gate. The only way for him to progress is for him to face his fear in the real game setting. I truly believe that the longer he sits the worse it's going to get for him. Throw him the ball right off the los ala the throws Hines and Wallace get. Let him get a few "gimmees" under his belt, if there are such throws/catches for Limas right now
                  I like this plan right here, give him confidence by calling his number and saying, "what's in the past is in the past, lets move forward." If they continue to let him sit and not give him chances he will become less confident. I hope he gets his chances; if he fails, he fails, I don't believe he will if given the opportunity. I've seen him make some pretty difficult catches in the pre-season games, so the ability is there.

                  Pappy
                  I agree. He dropped two bombs. To get them out of his head, start having him run the 10 to 15 yard patterns he looked awesome running in the preseason. He was money on those short to mid routes. build him up and then unleash the fury.
                  @_Hellgrammite

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                  • NorthCoast
                    Legend
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 26636

                    #24
                    Re: Still have hope for Sweed

                    Like it or not, the only way Sweed sees significant playing time is thru injury or retirement. In the meantime, why rush the guy back into the game when he can get all the practice time he needs to learn how to catch the football?
                    Wallace may even inch toward No. 2 if Holmes stays in his funk very long. Wallace is everything we need in a WR and he can actually catch the ball.

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                    • RuthlessBurgher
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 33208

                      #25
                      Re: Still have hope for Sweed

                      Originally posted by steelsnis
                      I guess I just don't see the value in ripping a guy or booing him when he's on your favorite team.

                      I know it's every fan's right to cheer or boo as they see fit but I just never understood how booing a guy if he screws up is going to make him play any better.

                      It may make you feel better but it certainly won't help the player.

                      Now, that being said, what the coaches do w/him behind closed doors is another matter, but it doesn't seem to be Tomlin's M/O to scream and yell at his guys.
                      The only athlete from my favorite team that I ever booed was Billy Tibbetts when he was on the Penguins, since he was a rapist and a prick. I booed him consistently, even when he scored goals for my team, because he was taking ice time away from another kid who deserved it. Everyone else, I supported. I may have screamed in frustration when Kordell Stewart threw interceptions in AFC Championship games, but I did not boo him. I reserve my booing for the opposition, the referees, and Billy Tibbetts.
                      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                      • papillon
                        Legend
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 11340

                        #26
                        Re: Still have hope for Sweed

                        Originally posted by NorthCoast
                        Like it or not, the only way Sweed sees significant playing time is thru injury or retirement. In the meantime, why rush the guy back into the game when he can get all the practice time he needs to learn how to catch the football?
                        Wallace may even inch toward No. 2 if Holmes stays in his funk very long. Wallace is everything we need in a WR and he can actually catch the ball.
                        Catching the football in practice isn't his problem is my guess. It's game action that seems to bring out the worst (especially, on the deep balls). He needs game success or failures and then the Steelers will know what to do with him as well. Sitting and catching balls in practice isn't going to boost his confidence until he can turn into live game action.

                        IMHO...

                        Pappy
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                        The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                        1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                        3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                        3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                        4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                        5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                        7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                        "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                        • aggiebones
                          Pro Bowler
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 1427

                          #27
                          Re: Still have hope for Sweed

                          I think Sweed will get enough chances to become a solid player somewhere along the line. But him being a 1 or a 2 might be a stretch.
                          We won a Super Bowl with Hines and Randle El and some other marginal player. Last season we won with Holmes and not much else. Nate didn't do much and Hines was an injured decoy.

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                          • Mel Blount's G
                            Pro Bowler
                            • May 2008
                            • 1056

                            #28
                            Re: Still have hope for Sweed

                            Originally posted by aggiebones
                            I think Sweed will get enough chances to become a solid player somewhere along the line. But him being a 1 or a 2 might be a stretch.
                            We won a Super Bowl with Hines and Randle El and some other marginal player. Last season we won with Holmes and not much else. Nate didn't do much and Hines was an injured decoy.
                            Oh no you didn't. You didn't just call Geddy Ced a marginal player?! ==> :P

                            And Nate did just enough to warrant him be taken seriously when he sped downfield which as we know opened things up underneath for S'tone, Ward, Miller, et al









                            Poor Ceddy. No respect I tells ya, no respect
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                            • RuthlessBurgher
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 33208

                              #29
                              Re: Still have hope for Sweed

                              Originally posted by Mel Blount's G
                              Originally posted by aggiebones
                              I think Sweed will get enough chances to become a solid player somewhere along the line. But him being a 1 or a 2 might be a stretch.
                              We won a Super Bowl with Hines and Randle El and some other marginal player. Last season we won with Holmes and not much else. Nate didn't do much and Hines was an injured decoy.
                              Oh no you didn't. You didn't just call Geddy Ced a marginal player?! ==> :P

                              And Nate did just enough to warrant him be taken seriously when he sped downfield which as we know opened things up underneath for S'tone, Ward, Miller, et al









                              Poor Ceddy. No respect I tells ya, no respect
                              I don't think his girlfriend respected him either. And we all know what happened then.

                              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                              • feltdizz
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 27531

                                #30
                                Re: Still have hope for Sweed

                                Doesn't matter what Sweed does in practice or underneath in 10 to 15 yard routes. Until he catches abomb it is what it is... He seems to have problems with the easy catches right now and until he gets over it by catching a long one it's a crap shoot having him in there.

                                I think every athlete has had the dream where theycan't make the easy play. My nightmare was the easy basket and no matter how soft I shot it the damn ball never went in. Sweeeeed is living it... We can't catch it for him he has to break out on his own. It's all in his head.
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