Is Tomlin a poor excuse for a coach?

[Steeler Shades]

Re: Is Tomlin a poor excuse for a coach?

So what do you like about your favorite team? In 793 posts I have yet to hear it.

I interpreted his post as voicing his complaints about Tomlin. If he doesn't care for Tomlin does that also mean that he is not a Steeler fan or have you decided to change the topic of this thread?

[Steelhere10]

Re: Is Tomlin a poor excuse for a coach?

[quote=Steeler Shades]

So what do you like about your favorite team? In 793 posts I have yet to hear it.

I interpreted his post as voicing his complaints about Tomlin. If he doesn't care for Tomlin does that also mean that he is not a Steeler fan or have you decided to change the topic of this thread? [/quote:3ntoptd8]So how many times do he have to pollute the board with that crap. What about he send you private pm's and you two discuss your displeasures in the comfort of your own homes. OR better yet , make one thread and every time he have something to say about the coach just add to the same thread.

[Discipline of Steel]

Re: Is Tomlin a poor excuse for a coach?

[quote=Steeler Shades]

So what do you like about your favorite team? In 793 posts I have yet to hear it.

I interpreted his post as voicing his complaints about Tomlin. If he doesn't care for Tomlin does that also mean that he is not a Steeler fan or have you decided to change the topic of this thread? [/quote:2h5h27pk]

"Dude, all you would get from this bunch is "in Rooney's we trust." They usually don't form their own opinions they just go with the flow. Plus, since Tomlin is black they are afraid to say anything negative about him for fear the other "followers" on this site will label them a racist. I personally don't like this coach. I think he walked into a wonderful situation, he was given above average players, inherited a soon to be HOF defensive coordinator who carried him last year.
I am sick of his favortism to a horrible excuse for a running back in FWP. I can't stand that he allowed the offensive coordinator and the offensive line coach to remain with the team. I'm sick of report cards to players. I'm tired of coachspeak. I'm tired that we can't score from the goal line even if we have 4 cracks at it. I am tired of trying to win games in the last minute. I am tired of trying to preserve wins in the last minute of the game. I'm sick of stupid in game decisions that make absolutely no sense then a stupid coach that says he would do it all over again in the same situation. Basically, I am just tired of this underachieving team and I blame that squarely on the coach and the staff HE assembled and retained."

I interpret the post as complaints about Tomlin, Parker, our goal line run package, the last minute of our games, Tomlins coaching staff, and the underachieving team as a whole.

[snarky]

Re: Is Tomlin a poor excuse for a coach?

I hope they underachieve their way to another SB win. That would be awesome.

[Steeler Shades]

Re: Is Tomlin a poor excuse for a coach?

" Basically, I am just tired of this underachieving team and I blame that squarely on the coach and the staff HE assembled and retained."

I interpret the post as complaints about Tomlin, Parker, our goal line run package, the last minute of our games, Tomlins coaching staff, and the underachieving team as a whole.

The last sentence convinced me that his issue (and complaint) was with Tomlin.

[Steeler Shades]

Re: Is Tomlin a poor excuse for a coach?

... OR better yet , make one thread and every time he have something to say about the coach just add to the same thread.

I think that if we did that for every player or coach on the Steelers this board would get very boring very quickly. Or is this a suggestion that should be applied to only one poster?

[PSU_dropout43]

Re: Is Tomlin a poor excuse for a coach?

Did John Hardaway know something we didn't?

[feelthesteel]

Re: Is Tomlin a poor excuse for a coach?

in this country if you say obama stinks your a racist if your a white guy.
if you say mccain stinks its okay.

[BURGH86STEEL]

Re: Is Tomlin a poor excuse for a coach?

[quote=LasVegasGuy]

LVG, I hate to say this as I really don't advocate personal attacks
and I find them childish and learn nothing from them, but all I see is a
guy who desperately needs attention by standing out from the crowd;
and the only way he knows how to do it is to rile up other people
with negative, cryptic one-liners about things he knows people are
passionate about.

If you feel so strongly about your opinions, I'm sure I'm not alone when
I say I'd love to see some well thought out logic from you and an attempt
to make a diplomatic case about it so that we can all try to understand your
rationale and learn from you.

As it is, the more you talk, the more I think you're about 21 to 24 years of
age and still have some unresolved issues from childhood? The ta-tas in your
face kinda support that too...sorry...really.

i am waiting for the same type of reply from the 'real' fans that agree with every move made by this organization.

Dude, all you would get from this bunch is "in Rooney's we trust." They usually don't form their own opinions they just go with the flow. Plus, since Tomlin is black they are afraid to say anything negative about him for fear the other "followers" on this site will label them a racist. I personally don't like this coach. I think he walked into a wonderful situation, he was given above average players, inherited a soon to be HOF defensive coordinator who carried him last year.
I am sick of his favortism to a horrible excuse for a running back in FWP. I can't stand that he allowed the offensive coordinator and the offensive line coach to remain with the team. I'm sick of report cards to players. I'm tired of coachspeak. I'm tired that we can't score from the goal line even if we have 4 cracks at it. I am tired of trying to win games in the last minute. I am tired of trying to preserve wins in the last minute of the game. I'm sick of stupid in game decisions that make absolutely no sense then a stupid coach that says he would do it all over again in the same situation. Basically, I am just tired of this underachieving team and I blame that squarely on the coach and the staff HE assembled and retained.[/quote:1swayfz6]

You trashed him and did not like him since day one. You never gave Tomlin a chance. That is why some people labeled you a racist.

FWP started under Cowher. Parker played a significant role in the team winning the SB in 05, had a great season in 06, played a significant role in the team making the playoffs in 07, and contributed to a another SB win in 08. Unfortunately, injuries have taken their toll on Parker. You may not have agreed that Parker was a starter but he was far from a poor excuse for a RB. He proved he could get the job done.

You can disagree with the OC and OL coaches remaining with the team. That is your prerogative. Those guys helped the team win another SB though. If one thing changed about this team in 08 they may not had won the SB. Just something to think about.

What is wrong with the report cards to players or coach speak? It is not like you get a report card yourself. All coaches have coach speak so I don't know how you get away from it. If you don't like coach speak, you don't have to listen.

There are several aspects of the team that have been difficult to watch this season. The coaches put the players in a position to make plays on more then one occasion. Players did not make the plays. For whatever reason, things are not going the Steelers way this year.

This team had been preserving wins at the end of games for a long time before Tomlin. I don't care how they win could be blow outs, last minute, defense stepping up at the end, or any other way. All that matters is they win. They have done a lot of that with Tomlin as the HC. You don't always know what goes into the decisions at the time so it is difficult to label them stupid. Hindsight is 20/20. What we do know is a lot of the decisions that were made have worked out a majority of the time.

It can be your prerogative to blame the coaches for a majority of the problems this season. At the same time, you should continue to give credit to those guys for the SB win. I see it differently. A majority of the wins and losses fall on the players. Players are the people that have the biggest impact on wins and losses. This is a veteran group of players that knows what it takes to win.

The coach that inherited this team was going to have a good team. Don't hold that against Tomlin. I am satisfied that this team got off to a good start under Tomlin. He is still a young HC that is still learning. There will be bumps a long the road. It happens to the best of coaches. Maybe if you realize some of these things, you will not be so harsh to judge Tomlin.