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  • feltdizz
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 27532

    Sweeeeeeeeed!!!

    this guy has made TD's bigger then they need to be..

    It's like he falls asleep having nightmares of dropping TD passes...

    you have to be really bad to drop a TD pass like he did..
    Steelers 27
    Rats 16
  • grotonsteel
    Hall of Famer
    • Jul 2008
    • 2810

    #2
    Re: Sweeeeeeeeed!!!

    Man i though Sweed will be next Plex but....

    We have a WR who can't catch...maybe we can try him as a CB.
    Steelers Draft 2015
    Rd 1: Devante Parker - WR/ Kevin Johnson - CB
    Rd 2: Danielle Hunter -OLB
    Rd 3: Steven Nelson - CB
    Rd 4: Derron Smith - S
    Rd 5: Henry Anderson - DE
    Rd 6: Wes Saxton - TE
    Rd 7: Deon Simon - DT

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    • feltdizz
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 27532

      #3
      Re: Sweeeeeeeeed!!!

      I know we couldn't match the Nate offer..

      but I kept telling people a WR who could get open and drop passes was not the answer
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      • pittpete
        Legend
        • Aug 2008
        • 6825

        #4
        Re: Sweeeeeeeeed!!!

        Give McDonald some playing time IMHO.
        Week 3 of his second season and he still drops easy passes.
        At least we have a solid #3 in Wallace.
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        • Ghost
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 6338

          #5
          Re: Sweeeeeeeeed!!!

          I'd cut him or see if any team needs him for a late draft choice. I know I'm mad about the loss but there's no reason to keep him. He's the 4th WR and with the emergence of Wallace there's no way he's moving up over the next 2 or 3 years. Certainly Ben can't be feeling good about him as an option when he's on the field. He shouldn't be out there again this year.

          There's no WR on the team who you want on the field less than this guy in an important situation. It's one thing to struggle with the system your first year. It's entirely different to just drop catch after catch. Get McDonald out there - he's been in the league for 7 years for a reason.
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          • SidSmythe
            Hall of Famer
            • Sep 2008
            • 4708

            #6
            Re: Sweeeeeeeeed!!!

            Originally posted by Ghost
            I'd cut him or see if any team needs him for a late draft choice. I know I'm mad about the loss but there's no reason to keep him. He's the 4th WR and with the emergence of Wallace there's no way he's moving up over the next 2 or 3 years. Certainly Ben can't be feeling good about him as an option when he's on the field. He shouldn't be out there again this year.

            There's no WR on the team who you want on the field less than this guy in an important situation. It's one thing to struggle with the system your first year. It's entirely different to just drop catch after catch. Get McDonald out there - he's been in the league for 7 years for a reason.
            I wouldn't go that far ... the sad part is the guy can get deep. But teaching a guy to catch is a tough task since it's mostly a mental thing.

            I agree ... get McDonald in there
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            • RuthlessBurgher
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 33208

              #7
              Re: Sweeeeeeeeed!!!

              Yeah, give up on a talented young WR who is 3 games into his second season in the NFL. Sure, that's the smart thing to do. Brilliant!



              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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              • Ghost
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 6338

                #8
                Re: Sweeeeeeeeed!!!

                Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                Yeah, give up on a talented young WR who is 3 games into his second season in the NFL. Sure, that's the smart thing to do. Brilliant!



                I know you know evertyhing - where does he fit? Clearly he's not supplanting Ward or Holmes and they are there for at least 2 more seasons after this, if not 3 for Ward. He's definitely not jumping over Wallace anytime soon, likely never. You think ben feels confident with him? You wouldn't rather see MCDonald out there with the game on the line?

                While I understand the word 'bust' gets thrown around all too often, what has this guy shown? He couldn't get the playbook down last year, he's a soft blocker, and he can't catch.
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                • frankthetank1
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 2755

                  #9
                  Re: Sweeeeeeeeed!!!

                  i hate limas sweed. im not being patient with that bum any more. he will never be any good. i dont think bad hands is a coachable thing. just like nate, what good is it to be open if you catch the ball half the time. sweed's drops are horendous though. its all mental with sweed. also thank god we didnt keep nate. i saw most of the jets game and he had a few awful drops. i hope to see mcdonald playing next week. i will never blame the fo for drafting sweed where they did but he is a bum. i think its all mental with sweed which isnt a good thing. seems like he has a chuck knobloach thing going on, the second baseman on the yankees a few years back that couldnt make a simple throw to first base. im not sure that kind of thing is correctable

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                  • RuthlessBurgher
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 33208

                    #10
                    Re: Sweeeeeeeeed!!!

                    Originally posted by Ghost
                    Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                    Yeah, give up on a talented young WR who is 3 games into his second season in the NFL. Sure, that's the smart thing to do. Brilliant!



                    I know you know evertyhing - where does he fit? Clearly he's not supplanting Ward or Holmes and they are there for at least 2 more seasons after this, if not 3 for Ward. He's definitely not jumping over Wallace anytime soon, likely never. You think ben feels confident with him? You wouldn't rather see MCDonald out there with the game on the line?

                    While I understand the word 'bust' gets thrown around all too often, what has this guy shown? He couldn't get the playbook down last year, he's a soft blocker, and he can't catch.
                    He fits as the 4th WR...nothing more...there are worse tragedies than a struggling 4th WR. No one is asking him to start right now. Wallace is playing much better than him and has unquestionably passed him on the depth chart...there is no doubt about that. If Santonio were to go down, Wallace would likely take his place in the starting lineup, since they are both potential deep threats. If Hines were to go down, McDonald would likely take his place in the starting lineup, since they are both sure-handed possession receivers. Sweed offers something different than any of them, though, because he is a big WR (at least 3 inches taller than any other WR on our roster) who also has the ability to get open deep. He is struggling now...no doubt about it. Perhaps there is something lingering from the injury that kept him out of the lineup last week...who knows. Or maybe just a mental block as someone else mentioned. I don't want to make excuses for the guy, but it would be moronic to cut loose a guy with this much promise. Someone like Bruce Davis showed nothing whatsoever, so you can understand getting rid of a highly-drafted guy like that shortly after he was drafted, but you have to admit that Sweed has shown occassional flashes of brilliance that could foreshadow good things to come if we are patient with him. Rash decisions based on emotionality come back to bite you in the behind. Luckily, our front office is more rational than that.
                    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                    • phillyesq
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 7568

                      #11
                      Re: Sweeeeeeeeed!!!

                      Obviously, I was displeased with the drop. But I still think it is way too early to give up on Sweed. The drops are incredibly frustrating, but he also shows a great ability to get open. Sure, I'd love to see McDonald active for the next few games, but there is no way I'd just give up on Sweed right now.

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                      • NorthCoast
                        Legend
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 26636

                        #12
                        Re: Sweeeeeeeeed!!!

                        We have players that have already proven themselves. Sweed is not even No. 4 right now. McDonald and Wallace have outplayed him. Sweed should only see the field by injury.

                        Watch the replay on the drop, and then compare with Wallace's short sit-down catch. They speak volumes. When Sweed initially has the ball and is falling to the ground, instead of holding it tight against his body with both hands he kind of holds the ball out in front of himself. His elbow hits the turf and jars the ball loose. Plain and simple poor technique and lack of concentration. Wallace on the otherhand cradles catches a lot like Hines.

                        Why is a rookie ahead of a 2nd year player on technique like this?

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                        • fezziwig
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 3515

                          #13
                          Re: Sweeeeeeeeed!!!

                          The guy can not be trusted or is not clutch. He must be so mentally weak to drop the passes that he does, it's beyond coaching. Falling to the ground with a TD catch and not holding on is huge and he deserves to be benched and to not dress for the games. You have Wallace and McDonald that are better than him without doubt.
                          Let us see if these coaches unlike Cowher are prepared to say, " we messed up with this one in the draft. "

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                          • Steeler Mafia
                            Starter
                            • May 2008
                            • 567

                            #14
                            Re: Sweeeeeeeeed!!!

                            Either Sweed needs to start cathcing the ball, outside of preseason, or he needs to find another job. Tomlin needs to light a fire under this guys A$$. There is not excuse for dropping that kind of pass, especially in a divisional game.
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                            • Leper Friend
                              Backup
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 284

                              #15
                              Re: Sweeeeeeeeed!!!

                              Originally posted by fezziwig
                              The guy can not be trusted or is not clutch. He must be so mentally weak to drop the passes that he does, it's beyond coaching. Falling to the ground with a TD catch and not holding on is huge and he deserves to be benched and to not dress for the games. You have Wallace and McDonald that are better than him without doubt.
                              Let us see if these coaches unlike Cowher are prepared to say, " we messed up with this one in the draft. "
                              It has to be all mental at this point. He caught plenty of deep balls at Texas , it's not like he can't do it.You can almost see him getting tense as the ball gets near.The ground knocked the ball out but there was really no reason for him to even fall. The pass was perfect.

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