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  • fordfixer
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    • May 2008
    • 10922

    Is Jeff Reed a Steeler after this season?

    Is Jeff Reed a Steeler after this season?
    Steelers Q&A with Ed Bouchette
    Wednesday, September 23, 2009
    By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
    [url="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09266/1000270-367.stm"]http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09266/1000270-367.stm[/url]

    Q: Is there any way the Steelers keep Jeff Reed after this year? It has nothing to do with his recent performance but the fact that they seem to have a certain price they will pay for a kicker and not a penny more. If they let Hall-of-Famer Gary Anderson walk over money, why wouldn't they do the same for Reed?

    Mitch Molinaro, Fort Mitchell, Ala.

    BOUCHETTE: I believe their low-ball offer to him several days before the start of the season showed that they do not intend to make him a much higher offer, and if he does not accept it, he will move on. I think they made him an offer they knew he could not accept, which is another sign that there will be nothing more concrete coming after the season. And I do not think Gary Anderson will make the Pro Football Hall of Fame. There is only one pure kicker in there, Jan Stenerud, and no other has gained much support through the years. Anderson no longer leads the NFL in scoring and missed the biggest kick of his career that would have put the Minnesota Vikings in the Super Bowl.
    First published on September 23, 2009 at 10:05 am

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  • phillyesq
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 7568

    #2
    Re: Is Jeff Reed a Steeler after this season?

    I disagree with Bouchette here. Unless he continues to kick like he did last week, my guess is that the FO hits him with the franchise tag in the offseason.

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    • Oviedo
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 23824

      #3
      Re: Is Jeff Reed a Steeler after this season?

      Originally posted by phillyesq
      I disagree with Bouchette here. Unless he continues to kick like he did last week, my guess is that the FO hits him with the franchise tag in the offseason.
      I agree but Reed has to feel a little nervous now that he rejected that contract offer. He probably has a little more to think about than he really wants. I'm sure the offer he was given would have made him a multi-millionaire several time over.
      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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      • JTP53609
        Pro Bowler
        • Sep 2009
        • 1888

        #4
        Re: Is Jeff Reed a Steeler after this season?

        what is up with reed this season so far.....he just about hit our lineman in the head on the game tying field goal against tennessee and than this past week he blew.....what bothers me most about this week and his 2 misses is that they were the same end and both were within his range and he missed the first one way left and the second one was....WAY LEFT..like i tell my students and players, i dont mind mistakes, but you better fix the mistakes you make and adjust to them, reed did nothing to adjust to that second kick and that is what angered me most...

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        • RuthlessBurgher
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 33208

          #5
          Re: Is Jeff Reed a Steeler after this season?

          Here are the salaries for the top 10 kickers/punters in the league last season...they are grouped together by the NFL for franchise/transition tag purposes (Jeff's salary was already 9th in the league overall).

          Sebastian Janikowski $3,010,000
          Robbie Gould $2,520,000
          Adam Vinatieri $2,350,000
          John Kasay $2,300,000
          Brian Moorman $2,236,428
          Ryan Longwell $2,220,000
          Craig Hentrich $2,083,750
          Jason Hanson $2,080,000
          Jeff Reed $1,958,333
          Shane Lechler $1,882,858

          If you wanted to give a kicker or punter the franchise tag for this season, you would have had to pay him the average of the top 5 from the list above ($2.48 million). If you wanted to give him the transition tag, it would be the average of the top 10 ($2.26 million). Those franchise/transition numbers may go up next year, but not by much, I wouldn't think. I think it is worth a half-million dollar raise (or so) to franchise Jeff and keep him around for another year (and hopefully try to work out a long term deal with him next offseason like with did with the franchised-tagged Max Starks this past offseason).
          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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          • steelblood
            Hall of Famer
            • May 2008
            • 4166

            #6
            Re: Is Jeff Reed a Steeler after this season?

            Love the Jeff Reed. Still, he doesn't kick off all that well. If he continues to miss FGs this year, it may be easy to let him go instead of paying him 2.5 mil per season.
            Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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            • Shoe
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 4044

              #7
              Re: Is Jeff Reed a Steeler after this season?

              Originally posted by steelblood
              Love the Jeff Reed. Still, he doesn't kick off all that well. If he continues to miss FGs this year, it may be easy to let him go instead of paying him 2.5 mil per season.
              I don't love him--but I like him a lot
              And I agree that I am a bit concerned with him, given his "shaky" start. One thing I wonder about is how his lifestyle plays into his preparation. I see pictures of him all the time, wasted, in a bar, etc. And believe me--I'm no prude when it comes to that kind of thing. But you wonder if maybe it (eventually) has an effect on his on-field game.
              I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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              • frankthetank1
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 2755

                #8
                Re: Is Jeff Reed a Steeler after this season?

                jeff reed is a very good kicker. he is always money except of course last sunday, but they shouldnt go crazy to try and re-sign him. he doesnt deserve to be the highest paid kicker or anything so if he doesnt accept a resonable offer then let him walk. i know heinz is a tough place to kick but how hard is it to find a kicker?

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                • LouSteel
                  Backup
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 264

                  #9
                  Re: Is Jeff Reed a Steeler after this season?

                  I think the team is crazy not to franchise Skippy.

                  Heinz isn't a good place for kickers, but he's been solid for us. Tag him, see if he will sign a long-term deal, and begin grooming his replacement.

                  I do not want to see us just try and plug someone in. I've seen enough "short-term fixes" in Berger and Ernster to know that we must have someone ready to replace Reed.

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                  • Chadman
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 6537

                    #10
                    Re: Is Jeff Reed a Steeler after this season?

                    How good are the Steelers going if our biggest concern is who our kicker will be in 2011?


                    Chadman's thoughts- while Reed has been great for a number of years, that salary number is creeping up. With so few holes in this team, a mid-round draft selection on a kicker next draft might be a viable, and cost-effective, option.

                    Reed for $1.5 million (or thereabouts, let's say) or a rookie kicker (5th round?) for $400k a season? Will there be THAT much of a difference in the results?
                    The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

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                    • Lonbull
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 1121

                      #11
                      Re: Is Jeff Reed a Steeler after this season?

                      Originally posted by Chadman
                      Reed for $1.5 million (or thereabouts, let's say) or a rookie kicker (5th round?) for $400k a season? Will there be THAT much of a difference in the results?
                      Chadman -

                      I fear replacing Jeff Reed as Kicker - could end up being very similiar to replacing Antwaan Randel El as punt returner.

                      Considering that if Logan is the answer - we've been without a solid replacement now for almost three seasons. The first year was absolutely painful with out Randel El - as we consistently lost games due to fumbles. Beyond that we were rarely a threat in special teams - perhaps Logan is changing that. That being said Kickers are (obviously) in a place to win more games for you than punt returners are - and as we saw last week - they're in a position to lose more games for you as well.

                      I have visions of how poorly our kickers did at Heinz field before Reed got there - I'm not disagreeing with you - because the economics make sense - I'm just hopeful that the right guy is available for us in the draft or otherwise.

                      L.B.

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                      • proudpittsburgher
                        Pro Bowler
                        • May 2008
                        • 2377

                        #12
                        Re: Is Jeff Reed a Steeler after this season?

                        Gang, just think back to how you felt when Piotr Czech lined up a kick in the preseason. AND THAT WAS A MEANINGLES PRESEASON GAME!!! Skippy will figure this out. Someone tag this guy, please, and get him signed. The Syeelers figure out how to makeeach and every game a close one, the last thing we need is to have to worry about whether our kicker can make a 45 yard field goal.
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                        • Mister Pittsburgh
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 3674

                          #13
                          Re: Is Jeff Reed a Steeler after this season?

                          Draft a kicker with a great percentage that plays outdoors up here in the north so they are used to cold weather.
                          @_Hellgrammite

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                          • RuthlessBurgher
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 33208

                            #14
                            Re: Is Jeff Reed a Steeler after this season?

                            Originally posted by Mister Pittsburgh
                            Draft a kicker with a great percentage that plays outdoors up here in the north so they are used to cold weather.
                            Cold weather is nothing. The problems with Heinz is unsure footing #1, uncertain winds #2, and cold weather #3. I would not want to rely on a rookie kicker in a pressure situation, no matter where he went to college.
                            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                            • Mister Pittsburgh
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 3674

                              #15
                              Re: Is Jeff Reed a Steeler after this season?

                              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                              Originally posted by Mister Pittsburgh
                              Draft a kicker with a great percentage that plays outdoors up here in the north so they are used to cold weather.
                              Cold weather is nothing. The problems with Heinz is unsure footing #1, uncertain winds #2, and cold weather #3. I would not want to rely on a rookie kicker in a pressure situation, no matter where he went to college.
                              Reed was working on a dairy farm when we gave him and 3 other dudes a tryout. Sure it worked out for him. Great. We also had Rob Bironas in camp a year or two. Could of had him. There are lots of kickers out there. There are something like 200 division 1 colleges (not that all have football programs) and plenty of D2 schools. I am sure we can find a kicker that has a great percentage that kicks on a crappy field in the cold.
                              @_Hellgrammite

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