More fodder for the discussion fire

[Oviedo]

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I just read an article in the Wall Street Journal that the Federal reserve has identified Bruce Arians as the cause for the recent recession and the economy will not fully recover until some Steelers fans get their way and see him fired so they have another OC to complain about.

Get real. Players and player execution lost Sunday's game not coaches. BA doesn't kick Field Goals last time I checked nor do I think he teaches Santonio how to drop passes although some would like to believe he does.

If you get off blaming coaches serve up a plate full for LeBeau because his defense was substandard and his pass rush was poor for the second week in a row.

You have to admit it was stupid to not go no huddle the entire day when that is pretty much the only way we move the ball on a consistent basis.

I think it was a major mistake not to go to the no huddle against a team with an injury depleted LB corps.

[RuthlessBurgher]

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i really like what singleterry is doing in SF, He has made a good offense out of not much and that defense is tough from what i have seen, they dont really have anything special other than willis on defense and gore on offense, they have been good since he has been there...

I agree...does anyone realize that the Niners have won 7 of their last 9 games? And he inherited a crappy team in the middle of the season that was 2-5 at the time. Impressive.

Would LVG be impressed, though? If he's not impressed with what Tomlin has done, then I doubt it. I asked him who he would prefer over Tomlin on the list of current head coaches, but he hasn't answered. Based on his Tomlin-bashing, I figure that he would prefer most of those coaches to Tomlin, but not likely Mike Singletary, Lovie Smith, Marvin Lewis, Jim Caldwell, or Raheem Morris.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

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I just read an article in the Wall Street Journal that the Federal reserve has identified Bruce Arians as the cause for the recent recession and the economy will not fully recover until some Steelers fans get their way and see him fired so they have another OC to complain about.

Get real. Players and player execution lost Sunday's game not coaches. BA doesn't kick Field Goals last time I checked nor do I think he teaches Santonio how to drop passes although some would like to believe he does.

If you get off blaming coaches serve up a plate full for LeBeau because his defense was substandard and his pass rush was poor for the second week in a row.

You have to admit it was stupid to not go no huddle the entire day when that is pretty much the only way we move the ball on a consistent basis.

I think it was a major mistake not to go to the no huddle against a team with an injury depleted LB corps.

I instantly would have gone to the no huddle when Ben showed signs of being slightly off. That would have gotten him back in a rythm of where he felt comfortable. Didn't he run that type of offense in college? Did well enough of a job in that type of O that he got drafted 11th overall from a small school. We have the weapons. Just makes too much sense for some people to wrap their heads around.

[JTP53609]

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i really like what singleterry is doing in SF, He has made a good offense out of not much and that defense is tough from what i have seen, they dont really have anything special other than willis on defense and gore on offense, they have been good since he has been there...

I agree...does anyone realize that the Niners have won 7 of their last 9 games? And he inherited a crappy team in the middle of the season that was 2-5 at the time. Impressive.

Would LVG be impressed, though? If he's not impressed with what Tomlin has done, then I doubt it. I asked him who he would prefer over Tomlin on the list of current head coaches, but he hasn't answered. Based on his Tomlin-bashing, I figure that he would prefer most of those coaches to Tomlin, but not likely Mike Singletary, Lovie Smith, Marvin Lewis, Jim Caldwell, or Raheem Morris.

well the coaches that i really like are, 3..
singletery- love what he is doing, like you said won 7 of his last 9 with that group is a miracle
harbaugh -i know im sorry, cant stand the team, but he is good
bellicheck-classless dirtball, but he does know football, cheating did help, but if samuel picks off mannings pass in his two minute drill in the super bowl than the pats were 19-0

[RuthlessBurgher]

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i really like what singleterry is doing in SF, He has made a good offense out of not much and that defense is tough from what i have seen, they dont really have anything special other than willis on defense and gore on offense, they have been good since he has been there...

I agree...does anyone realize that the Niners have won 7 of their last 9 games? And he inherited a crappy team in the middle of the season that was 2-5 at the time. Impressive.

Would LVG be impressed, though? If he's not impressed with what Tomlin has done, then I doubt it. I asked him who he would prefer over Tomlin on the list of current head coaches, but he hasn't answered. Based on his Tomlin-bashing, I figure that he would prefer most of those coaches to Tomlin, but not likely Mike Singletary, Lovie Smith, Marvin Lewis, Jim Caldwell, or Raheem Morris.

well the coaches that i really like are, 3..
singletery- love what he is doing, like you said won 7 of his last 9 with that group is a miracle
harbaugh -i know im sorry, cant stand the team, but he is good
bellicheck-classless dirtball, but he does know football, cheating did help, but if samuel picks off mannings pass in his two minute drill in the super bowl than the pats were 19-0

Speaking of the Harbaugh hiring, I was really hoping that they were going to go with the popular name and hire Jason Garrett from the Cowboys, since I think that guy is kind of a chump. I thought the Harbaugh move was a shrewd move, kind of out of left field like our Tomlin hiring. He was a good special teams coach in Philly, but you don't see a lot of guys going straight from special teams to head coach (Cowher was a special teams coach once upon a time, but he became a defensive coordinator before becoming a head coach). Harbaugh's dad was a long-time coach, and his brother had a solid NFL career and is now head coach at Stanford as well. For all that I can't stand about the Ravens, you have to admit that Ozzie Newsome sure seems to know what he is doing down there.

[JTP53609]

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i really like what singleterry is doing in SF, He has made a good offense out of not much and that defense is tough from what i have seen, they dont really have anything special other than willis on defense and gore on offense, they have been good since he has been there...

I agree...does anyone realize that the Niners have won 7 of their last 9 games? And he inherited a crappy team in the middle of the season that was 2-5 at the time. Impressive.

Would LVG be impressed, though? If he's not impressed with what Tomlin has done, then I doubt it. I asked him who he would prefer over Tomlin on the list of current head coaches, but he hasn't answered. Based on his Tomlin-bashing, I figure that he would prefer most of those coaches to Tomlin, but not likely Mike Singletary, Lovie Smith, Marvin Lewis, Jim Caldwell, or Raheem Morris.

well the coaches that i really like are, 3..
singletery- love what he is doing, like you said won 7 of his last 9 with that group is a miracle
harbaugh -i know im sorry, cant stand the team, but he is good
bellicheck-classless dirtball, but he does know football, cheating did help, but if samuel picks off mannings pass in his two minute drill in the super bowl than the pats were 19-0

Speaking of the Harbaugh hiring, I was really hoping that they were going to go with the popular name and hire Jason Garrett from the Cowboys, since I think that guy is kind of a chump. I thought the Harbaugh move was a shrewd move, kind of out of left field like our Tomlin hiring. He was a good special teams coach in Philly, but you don't see a lot of guys going straight from special teams to head coach (Cowher was a special teams coach once upon a time, but he became a defensive coordinator before becoming a head coach). Harbaugh's dad was a long-time coach, and his brother had a solid NFL career and is now head coach at Stanford as well. For all that I can't stand about the Ravens, you have to admit that Ozzie Newsome sure seems to know what he is doing down there.

indeed he does, but he and harbaugh are the only ones, other than that it is a crapshoot

[BURGH86STEEL]

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[quote=Mister Pittsburgh]

I just read an article in the Wall Street Journal that the Federal reserve has identified Bruce Arians as the cause for the recent recession and the economy will not fully recover until some Steelers fans get their way and see him fired so they have another OC to complain about.

Get real. Players and player execution lost Sunday's game not coaches. BA doesn't kick Field Goals last time I checked nor do I think he teaches Santonio how to drop passes although some would like to believe he does.

If you get off blaming coaches serve up a plate full for LeBeau because his defense was substandard and his pass rush was poor for the second week in a row.

You have to admit it was stupid to not go no huddle the entire day when that is pretty much the only way we move the ball on a consistent basis.

I think it was a major mistake not to go to the no huddle against a team with an injury depleted LB corps.

I instantly would have gone to the no huddle when Ben showed signs of being slightly off. That would have gotten him back in a rythm of where he felt comfortable. Didn't he run that type of offense in college? Did well enough of a job in that type of O that he got drafted 11th overall from a small school. We have the weapons. Just makes too much sense for some people to wrap their heads around.[/quote:b2dfp5ls]

Did you factor the weather into the equation? Maybe they thought more bad things would happen running the no huddle on the road in rainy conditions? The rain probably had some impact on the way some players performed.

They also probably thought they could move the ball without running the no huddle. They proved that they could. Why go no huddle when was not necessary? The fact remains that offense had chances to score on 4 out of 8 possessions. The offense did a lot of good things in that game without going to the no huddle. If Reed and the defense did their jobs, we would not even be talking about going no huddle. Realistically, the overall offensive performance was not the issue in the Bears game.