NFL Total Access Top Ten Rookie Seasons - No Ben???

[rpmpit]

This just blows my mind. How does Ben not make this list???

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10. Ronnie Lott
9. Dan Marino
8. Adrian Peterson
7. Jevon Kearse
6. Edgerrin James
5. Randy Moss
4. Gale Sayers
3. Lawrence Taylor
2. Dik "Night Train" Lane
1. Eric Dickerson

[us_steelinfrance]

Re: NFL Total Access Top Ten Rookie Seasons - No Ben???

BOOOOOOO!

There's no explanation, unless the idiots buy into the "he's just a manager" and he only won games because of all the veteran talent around him. Of course, how do we explain the 6-10 previous season w/the same veteran talent.

Ben is usually dismissed, which is unfair. However, as long as he keeps winning, I'm sure he has the last laugh.

[MeetJoeGreene]

Re: NFL Total Access Top Ten Rookie Seasons - No Ben???

Doesn't really suprise me.

He had wins, not gaudy stats.....

[stlrz d]

Re: NFL Total Access Top Ten Rookie Seasons - No Ben???

He'll have the last laugh. He always does.

[rpmpit]

Re: NFL Total Access Top Ten Rookie Seasons - No Ben???

Doesn't really suprise me.

He had wins, not gaudy stats.....

Besides the wins, Ben had a higher rating (in 4 more starts) than Marino. Here are the numbers:

Marino's rookie stats:
7-2 as a starter
20 td
6 int
96.0 rating

Ben's rookie stats:
13-0 as a starter
17 td
11 int
98.1 rating

[rpmpit]

Re: NFL Total Access Top Ten Rookie Seasons - No Ben???

He'll have the last laugh. He always does.

Most definitely!!!

[papillon]

Re: NFL Total Access Top Ten Rookie Seasons - No Ben???

This just shows you what ESPN and the like have done to sports in general. It's all about the entertainment value and Ben's rookie season while outstanding wasn't done with flair by throwing the ball all over the field and, as such, warrants being dismissed by the talking heads.

If you're not putting up huge numbers as a player in any professional sport in America you can rest assured that you will never be included as one of the best at what you do. Let them talk when the Steelers are running out of fingers for rings (including the 70s) we'll all get the last laugh. Bunch of Jack@asses


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[rpmpit]

Re: NFL Total Access Top Ten Rookie Seasons - No Ben???

This just shows you what ESPN and the like have done to sports in general. It's all about the entertainment value and Ben's rookie season while outstanding wasn't done with flair by throwing the ball all over the field and, as such, warrants being dismissed by the talking heads.

If you're not putting up huge numbers as a player in any professional sport in America you can rest assured that you will never be included as one of the best at what you do. Let them talk when the Steelers are running out of fingers for rings (including the 70s) we'll all get the last laugh. Bunch of Jack@asses


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Pappy

Thank you

[Ozey74]

Re: NFL Total Access Top Ten Rookie Seasons - No Ben???

This is crazy!!!!! Without researching the 10 listed, I would definitely think Ben should be in the Top 3. Not being in the top 10 is absolutely uncalled for!!!

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Re: NFL Total Access Top Ten Rookie Seasons - No Ben???

Doesn't really suprise me.

He had wins, not gaudy stats.....

Stop it, MJG... Common sense isn't allowed in this thread.

[rpmpit]

Re: NFL Total Access Top Ten Rookie Seasons - No Ben???

Doesn't really suprise me.

He had wins, not gaudy stats.....

Stop it, MJG... Common sense isn't allowed in this thread.

Check my reply to MJG. Ben's stats are comparable to Marino's.

[Jom112]

Re: NFL Total Access Top Ten Rookie Seasons - No Ben???

Check my reply to MJG. Ben's stats are comparable to Marino's.

They're definitely comparable but I would give a slight edge to Marino. Besides Marino who else would you take off the list to get Ben into the top 10?

This is crazy!!!!! Without researching the 10 listed, I would definitely think Ben should be in the Top 3. Not being in the top 10 is absolutely uncalled for!!!

Top 10 is definitely debatable, but no way in heck is he top 3.

Gale Sayers didn't even make top three and that man was unbelievable his rookie season. 14 TD's rushing, 6 TD's receiving, 1 kick return for a TD, 1 punt return for a TD and he threw a pass for a TD (All in a 14 game season). He was an offensive machine...

[rpmpit]

Re: NFL Total Access Top Ten Rookie Seasons - No Ben???

Check my reply to MJG. Ben's stats are comparable to Marino's.

They're definitely comparable but I would give a slight edge to Marino. Besides Marino who else would you take off the list to get Ben into the top 10?

Just curious why you'd give the edge to Marino?

Not sure who'd come off the list, but you can't argue that Ben belongs on it. Come on. 13-0 as a starter with his first loss coming to the eventual champs (cheaters) in the AFCCG??? I'm not one to usually cry about lack of respect, but this is pretty blatant.

On a related note, did anyone see Al Michaels on last week? Eisen couldn't wait to discuss the "questionable" calls during SBXL

[Ozey74]

Re: NFL Total Access Top Ten Rookie Seasons - No Ben???

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Top 10 is definitely debatable, but no way in heck is he top 3.

Gale Sayers didn't even make top three and that man was unbelievable his rookie season. 14 TD's rushing, 6 TD's receiving, 1 kick return for a TD, 1 punt return for a TD and he threw a pass for a TD (All in a 14 game season). He was an offensive machine...[/quote]

And your other 2 that round out your top 3?

[Jom112]

Re: NFL Total Access Top Ten Rookie Seasons - No Ben???

Just curious why you'd give the edge to Marino?

Not sure who'd come off the list, but you can't argue that Ben belongs on it. Come on. 13-0 as a starter with his first loss coming to the eventual champs (cheaters) in the AFCCG??? I'm not one to usually cry about lack of respect, but this is pretty blatant.

On a related note, did anyone see Al Michaels on last week? Eisen couldn't wait to discuss the "questionable" calls during SBXL

I gave the slight edge to Marino because:

1. I'm a

2. The TD:INT ratio. Marino only played in 11 games his rookie season (Opposed to Ben's 13/14) and still threw for 3 more TD's than Ben. Ben had a good season as well, but I still give the slight edge the Marino...