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  • RuthlessBurgher
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    • May 2008
    • 33208

    #16
    Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

    Originally posted by feltdizz
    Originally posted by NorthCoast
    Yes, Redman scored against scrubs, but the guy is a 3rd stringer himself. He has made the most of his opportunities and Tomlin is doing the right thing by giving him more and better opportunities. He may or may not be all that, but there is only one way to find out and I am glad that our HC does not have some pre-conceived notion about high draft picks getting all the reps to the exclusion of other hopefuls.
    bingo... Redman ran over the scrubs.. this is what god players do...
    I wouldn't go so far as to anoint Redman as a "god player" just yet.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    • Shoe
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 4044

      #17
      Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

      Originally posted by feltdizz
      bingo... Redman ran over the scrubs.. this is what god players do...
      He also "ran over" one of the greatest defenses of all-time (in practice) during goalline drills. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't heard any similar glowing reports coming out of camp (both the years he's been in camp) about Mendenhall and his success, against our great D, in practice.
      I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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      • stlrz d
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 9244

        #18
        Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

        Originally posted by Shoe
        Originally posted by feltdizz
        bingo... Redman ran over the scrubs.. this is what god players do...
        He also "ran over" one of the greatest defenses of all-time (in practice) during goalline drills. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't heard any similar glowing reports coming out of camp (both the years he's been in camp) about Mendenhall and his success, against our great D, in practice.
        Ran over or scored against? Big difference.

        Btw, according to Ryan Clark the D had to run the same D all 7 times. The O did not.

        Mendy has played 4 games as a pro, starting only one of them. Were you one who labeled Troy, Timmons and Woodly as busts too?

        My God....

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        • ikestops85
          Hall of Famer
          • Jun 2008
          • 3724

          #19
          Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

          Originally posted by stlrz d
          Originally posted by Shoe
          Originally posted by feltdizz
          bingo... Redman ran over the scrubs.. this is what god players do...
          He also "ran over" one of the greatest defenses of all-time (in practice) during goalline drills. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't heard any similar glowing reports coming out of camp (both the years he's been in camp) about Mendenhall and his success, against our great D, in practice.
          Ran over or scored against? Big difference.

          Btw, according to Ryan Clark the D had to run the same D all 7 times. The O did not.

          Mendy has played 4 games as a pro, starting only one of them. Were you one who labeled Troy, Timmons and Woodly as busts too?

          My God....
          I don't think he is saying Mendy is a bust ... just that he hasn't had the same success running those same drills against the steeler D. It is far too early in his career to make a judgement about him. I'd like to see him become the next LT but what some are saying is he hasn't shown that spark -- YET. I think we all hope he does.
          As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

          but Go Steelers!!!

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          • DukieBoy
            Hall of Famer
            • May 2008
            • 3488

            #20
            Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

            Ironically, a thread below this one is titled "Patience in Sweed, Gay Paying Off ..."

            Some patience might be a good investment here, too.





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            • stlrz d
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 9244

              #21
              Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

              Originally posted by DukieBoy
              Ironically, a thread below this one is titled "Patience in Sweed, Gay Paying Off ..."

              Some patience might be a good investment here, too.
              Right you are.

              And for those who either haven't seen it yet, or who have and refuse to acknowledge.

              [url="http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=7215"]http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=7215[/url]

              Ike - that's cool, but I saw Mendy running hard against AZ when he had the room. I'm sure the game will be replayed even more this week on NFLN...folks can see for themselves just as I did last night.

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              • DukieBoy
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 3488

                #22
                Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

                Originally posted by stlrz d
                Originally posted by DukieBoy
                Ironically, a thread below this one is titled "Patience in Sweed, Gay Paying Off ..."

                Some patience might be a good investment here, too.
                Right you are.

                And for those who either haven't seen it yet, or who have and refuse to acknowledge.

                [url="http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=7215"]http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=7215[/url]

                Ike - that's cool, but I saw Mendy running hard against AZ when he had the room. I'm sure the game will be replayed even more this week on NFLN...folks can see for themselves just as I did last night.

                Excellent link, D. The pics are worth a look.





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                • Shoe
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 4044

                  #23
                  Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

                  For the record: I always defended Polamalu (Bustamalu according to a lot on the triblive forum). And I always said give Timmons a chance (to show what he could/could not do). As for Woodley, I will admit that I saw him as just a solid player (I think I likened him to a young Keith Willis --not terrible, mind you)

                  Getting back to Mendenhall, I'm not rooting against him, or hope that he sucks. Nor do I have any bias against the guy--I truly hope he becomes Franco Harris!

                  I'm just expressing the opinion that I've gotten of him thus far.
                  I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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                  • DukieBoy
                    Hall of Famer
                    • May 2008
                    • 3488

                    #24
                    Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

                    Originally posted by Shoe
                    For the record: I always defended Polamalu (Bustamalu according to a lot on the triblive forum). And I always said give Timmons a chance (to show what he could/could not do). As for Woodley, I will admit that I saw him as just a solid player (I think I likened him to a young Keith Willis --not terrible, mind you)

                    Getting back to Mendenhall, I'm not rooting against him, or hope that he sucks. Nor do I have any bias against the guy--I truly hope he becomes Franco Harris!

                    I'm just expressing the opinion that I've gotten of him thus far.
                    Based specifically on Rashard's productivity w/ the Steelers to date, some skepicism is understood.

                    But then, he is very young, and the Steelers are proving adept at player development. Rashard is very young and might have a high ceiling for development. Comparing Mendenhall's age with some others including this year's class of rookies:

                    Mendenhall (6/19/87) age 22 yrs 2 mths
                    Redmon (11/10/84) age 24 yrs 9 mths
                    Summers (9/6/85) age 23 yrs 11 mths
                    Wallace (8/1/86) age 23 yrs 0 mths
                    Hood (2/16/87 ) age 22 yrs 6 mths
                    K Lewis (5/17/86) age 23 yrs 3 mths
                    Sweed (12/25/84) age 24 yrs 8 mths
                    Gay (1/1/85) age 24 yrs 7 mths


                    This justifies some patience IMO. And we do not need to depend on Rashard, with FWP & MMoore in place. But if we do need to depend on Rashard,even this year, he might well measure up as should be expected.





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                    • ANPSTEEL
                      Starter
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 888

                      #25
                      Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

                      [quote="DukieBoy"]
                      But then, he is very young, and the Steelers are proving adept at player development. Rashard is very young and might have a high ceiling for development. Comparing Mendenhall's age with some others including this year's class of rookies:

                      Mendenhall (6/19/87) age 22 yrs 2 mths
                      Redmon (11/10/84) age 24 yrs 9 mths
                      Summers (9/6/85) age 23 yrs 11 mths
                      Wallace (8/1/86) age 23 yrs 0 mths
                      Hood (2/16/87 ) age 22 yrs 6 mths
                      K Lewis (5/17/86) age 23 yrs 3 mths
                      Sweed (12/25/84) age 24 yrs 8 mths
                      Gay (1/1/85) age 24 yrs 7 mths


                      This justifies some patience IMO. And we do not need to depend on Rashard, with FWP & MMoore in place. But if we do need to depend on Rashard,even this year, he might well measure up as should be expected.[/color]

                      on that same train of thought- Timmons, in his third year with the team, just turned 23. to me that is amazing.

                      esentially, its the athletic equivalent of a 16 year old graduating from college.

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                      • Oviedo
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 23824

                        #26
                        Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

                        Originally posted by ANPSTEEL
                        Originally posted by DukieBoy
                        But then, he is very young, and the Steelers are proving adept at player development. Rashard is very young and might have a high ceiling for development. Comparing Mendenhall's age with some others including this year's class of rookies:

                        Mendenhall (6/19/87) age 22 yrs 2 mths
                        Redmon (11/10/84) age 24 yrs 9 mths
                        Summers (9/6/85) age 23 yrs 11 mths
                        Wallace (8/1/86) age 23 yrs 0 mths
                        Hood (2/16/87 ) age 22 yrs 6 mths
                        K Lewis (5/17/86) age 23 yrs 3 mths
                        Sweed (12/25/84) age 24 yrs 8 mths
                        Gay (1/1/85) age 24 yrs 7 mths


                        This justifies some patience IMO. And we do not need to depend on Rashard, with FWP & MMoore in place. But if we do need to depend on Rashard,even this year, he might well measure up as should be expected.[/color]

                        on that same train of thought- Timmons, in his third year with the team, just turned 23. to me that is amazing.

                        esentially, its the athletic equivalent of a 16 year old graduating from college.
                        You hit the nail on the head. Mendenhall, like Timmons, came into the league as a 20 year old. He is still physically maturing and learning. This year we just should want to see Mendenhall get better and not worry about stats because someone wants him on his Fantasy Football nonsense.

                        Next year Mendenhall will be 23 and a three year veteran in the NFL. That is a pretty good situation to have because that means three years of physical conditioning under the supervision of NFL trainers and three years of learning an NFL offense and breaking down defenses.

                        What is not to like about this?
                        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                        • ikestops85
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 3724

                          #27
                          Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

                          Originally posted by stlrz d
                          Originally posted by DukieBoy
                          Ironically, a thread below this one is titled "Patience in Sweed, Gay Paying Off ..."

                          Some patience might be a good investment here, too.
                          Right you are.

                          And for those who either haven't seen it yet, or who have and refuse to acknowledge.

                          [url="http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=7215"]http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=7215[/url]

                          Ike - that's cool, but I saw Mendy running hard against AZ when he had the room. I'm sure the game will be replayed even more this week on NFLN...folks can see for themselves just as I did last night.
                          I agree with you that he runs hard -- just like FWP runs hard. He just hasn't shown much in the way of vision or the ability to break tackles. It is a learning process and he is young. I still have great hope for him to succeed but it is nice to see a guy like Redman come in and show flashes of success early. Don't get me wrong ... I have no intention of saying Redman will be a success and Mendy won't. It's far too early to judge either one --- although the coaches only have a few more weeks before they will have to. I hope they all become superstars!!
                          As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

                          but Go Steelers!!!

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                          • papillon
                            Legend
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 11340

                            #28
                            Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

                            Originally posted by Oviedo
                            Originally posted by ANPSTEEL
                            Originally posted by DukieBoy
                            But then, he is very young, and the Steelers are proving adept at player development. Rashard is very young and might have a high ceiling for development. Comparing Mendenhall's age with some others including this year's class of rookies:

                            Mendenhall (6/19/87) age 22 yrs 2 mths
                            Redmon (11/10/84) age 24 yrs 9 mths
                            Summers (9/6/85) age 23 yrs 11 mths
                            Wallace (8/1/86) age 23 yrs 0 mths
                            Hood (2/16/87 ) age 22 yrs 6 mths
                            K Lewis (5/17/86) age 23 yrs 3 mths
                            Sweed (12/25/84) age 24 yrs 8 mths
                            Gay (1/1/85) age 24 yrs 7 mths


                            This justifies some patience IMO. And we do not need to depend on Rashard, with FWP & MMoore in place. But if we do need to depend on Rashard,even this year, he might well measure up as should be expected.[/color]

                            on that same train of thought- Timmons, in his third year with the team, just turned 23. to me that is amazing.

                            esentially, its the athletic equivalent of a 16 year old graduating from college.
                            You hit the nail on the head. Mendenhall, like Timmons, came into the league as a 20 year old. He is still physically maturing and learning. This year we just should want to see Mendenhall get better and not worry about stats because someone wants him on his Fantasy Football nonsense.

                            Next year Mendenhall will be 23 and a three year veteran in the NFL. That is a pretty good situation to have because that means three years of physical conditioning under the supervision of NFL trainers and three years of learning an NFL offense and breaking down defenses.

                            What is not to like about this?
                            He hasn't been to the pro-bowl.

                            Pappy
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                            • Oviedo
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 23824

                              #29
                              Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

                              Originally posted by papillon
                              Originally posted by Oviedo
                              Originally posted by ANPSTEEL
                              Originally posted by DukieBoy
                              But then, he is very young, and the Steelers are proving adept at player development. Rashard is very young and might have a high ceiling for development. Comparing Mendenhall's age with some others including this year's class of rookies:

                              Mendenhall (6/19/87) age 22 yrs 2 mths
                              Redmon (11/10/84) age 24 yrs 9 mths
                              Summers (9/6/85) age 23 yrs 11 mths
                              Wallace (8/1/86) age 23 yrs 0 mths
                              Hood (2/16/87 ) age 22 yrs 6 mths
                              K Lewis (5/17/86) age 23 yrs 3 mths
                              Sweed (12/25/84) age 24 yrs 8 mths
                              Gay (1/1/85) age 24 yrs 7 mths


                              This justifies some patience IMO. And we do not need to depend on Rashard, with FWP & MMoore in place. But if we do need to depend on Rashard,even this year, he might well measure up as should be expected.[/color]

                              on that same train of thought- Timmons, in his third year with the team, just turned 23. to me that is amazing.

                              esentially, its the athletic equivalent of a 16 year old graduating from college.
                              You hit the nail on the head. Mendenhall, like Timmons, came into the league as a 20 year old. He is still physically maturing and learning. This year we just should want to see Mendenhall get better and not worry about stats because someone wants him on his Fantasy Football nonsense.

                              Next year Mendenhall will be 23 and a three year veteran in the NFL. That is a pretty good situation to have because that means three years of physical conditioning under the supervision of NFL trainers and three years of learning an NFL offense and breaking down defenses.

                              What is not to like about this?
                              He hasn't been to the pro-bowl.

                              Pappy
                              Oh! I thought it was because he hadn't already passed FWP on the career rushing list.

                              I stand corrected
                              "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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