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  • fordfixer
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    • May 2008
    • 10921

    Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

    Pittsburgh Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

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    LATROBE, PA. — Last season didn't tell them. Their first exhibition game didn't tell them.

    Nearly 16 months after drafting Rashard Mendenhall in the first round, the Pittsburgh Steelers still don't know what they've got in the former Big Ten offensive player of the year at Illinois.

    Is he the next Willie Parker, a running back who begins rolling out 1,000-yard seasons immediately after getting into the lineup? Or is he the next Tim Worley, a first-round Steelers failure whose career stalls from the start and never takes off?

    The Steelers chose Mendenhall with the No. 23 overall pick to be a power back to complement the outside bursts they regularly get from Parker, to gain difficult yardage near the goal line and, eventually, to succeed Parker as their starter. Parker's contract runs out at the end of this season and has not been extended.

    Mendenhall is deep into his second training camp with a team that won the Super Bowl last season without him, yet he remains a big question mark simply because the Steelers haven't seen enough of him. When he has played, they haven't seen enough, period.

    Mendenhall's first preseason a year ago was marred by three fumbles in his final two games, so many he was ordered to carry a football with him wherever he went in the Steelers' practice complex. His teammates were encouraged to try to punch the ball loose.

    Once the season started, he was limited to 19 carries for 58 yards before a hit by a Baltimore defender during Mendenhall's first career start fractured his left shoulder and ended his rookie year. The Ravens were agitated beforehand when Mendenhall sent a text message to a friend on the Baltimore team that he anticipated having a big game.

    After that, Mendenhall didn't endear himself to his new team by disappearing from the Steelers' complex for long stretches, preferring to mend elsewhere.

    Still, the Steelers anticipated the five-foot-10, 225-pound Mendenhall taking on a major role in their offence this season. But he didn't offer enough evidence during their preseason opener Thursday against Arizona that he's ready to handle it.

    Mendenhall ran nine times for 24 yards, averaging 2.7 yards per carry. He didn't have much running room but also didn't do much with what he had, accepting short gains a couple of times when it appeared he could have gotten much bigger yardage by going outside.

    Coach Mike Tomlin's take? "I would like to see us control the line of scrimmage a little better."

    "We were trying to work on everything we can around here and I feel we did a pretty good job," Mendenhall said. "Just being back out there, being out there with the team and getting things rolling."

    Four days before, Mendenhall failed to score twice during a goal-line drill, about as close as the Steelers get in practice to replicating game conditions. Undrafted rookie Isaac Redman, who displays more of an edge than Mendenhall does, got in twice during the same drill.

    The Steelers clearly have plans for Mendenhall; during several longer-yardage situations against Arizona, they put him out wide rather than inserting another wide receiver.

    Mendenhall also showed enough flashes during the preseason a year ago - he ran off gains of 21, 18 and 16 yards against Minnesota - that the Steelers are certain that a player who ran for 1,681 yards as a college senior has the talent to do it.

    What they want is a player who's already cost them US$12.5 million to begin performing more consistently, just as fellow former first-rounders Troy Polamalu, Santonio Holmes and Lawrence Timmons made big progress in their second seasons.

    "I expect the jump from him that I expect all second-year players to take," Tomlin said. "This is his second lap around the track in terms of being a professional athlete and football player.

    "We don't make concessions because of injury. We expect him to be a mature guy. He acts like a guy who has been here before, a guy who is ready to burst upon the scene."

    Mendenhall feels the same way.

    "That (shoulder injury) was just a freak accident," he said. "I'm ready to go play now."

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  • Mister Pittsburgh
    Hall of Famer
    • Jul 2008
    • 3674

    #2
    Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

    Mendenhall reminds me of Verron Haynes for some reason. Good build. Average weight/height. Not too fast, not too slow. Average power but won't bull anyone over. Won't really outrun anyone. I think this was a waste of a 1st round pick. Not saying Mendy won't be a decent RB for us, but rather we could have gotten a back just as good in the 4th round on or fairly cheap in free agency like Mewelde Moore.
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    • BURGH86STEEL
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 6921

      #3
      Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

      Originally posted by Mister Pittsburgh
      Mendenhall reminds me of Verron Haynes for some reason. Good build. Average weight/height. Not too fast, not too slow. Average power but won't bull anyone over. Won't really outrun anyone. I think this was a waste of a 1st round pick. Not saying Mendy won't be a decent RB for us, but rather we could have gotten a back just as good in the 4th round on or fairly cheap in free agency like Mewelde Moore.
      I was surprised they took Mendenhall in the 1st round. I did not think they needed to draft a RB that early in the draft. I am not going to say it was a waste of a 1st round pick. People are to quick to place that label on players too soon. Only time will tell.

      The Oline needs to get better and develop more consistency. That will help the RB's, QB, and the WR's do their jobs better.

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      • SteelerNation1
        Pro Bowler
        • May 2008
        • 1574

        #4
        Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

        Originally posted by fordfixer
        After that, Mendenhall didn't endear himself to his new team by disappearing from the Steelers' complex for long stretches, preferring to mend elsewhere.
        This is the thing that concerns me most about Mendy. Is he a poor teammate?

        When I watch him run, it looks like he has great instincts and awesome moves, but just doesn't seem to go anywhere.
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        • stlrz d
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 9244

          #5
          Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

          Originally posted by SteelerNation1
          Originally posted by fordfixer
          After that, Mendenhall didn't endear himself to his new team by disappearing from the Steelers' complex for long stretches, preferring to mend elsewhere.
          This is the thing that concerns me most about Mendy. Is he a poor teammate?

          When I watch him run, it looks like he has great instincts and awesome moves, but just doesn't seem to go anywhere.
          There was another article posted in which Mendy himself talked about how much time he spent with the team during rehab...and I think there were statements from him teammates as well about how much he was there.

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          • isonator07
            Backup
            • Apr 2009
            • 341

            #6
            Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

            Very good point about Verron Haynes. He does remind me of Haynes. I was really stoked about seeing him Thursday, and I'm not ready to give up but I'm definitely starting to worry. I might be wrong but I don't remember his YPC being all that impressive in any of the games since being drafted. Although if Redman keeps looking like he did at the goal-line we might have found what we were looking for in Mendy.

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            • stlrz d
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 9244

              #7
              Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

              Originally posted by isonator07
              Very good point about Verron Haynes. He does remind me of Haynes. I was really stoked about seeing him Thursday, and I'm not ready to give up but I'm definitely starting to worry. I might be wrong but I don't remember his YPC being all that impressive in any of the games since being drafted. Although if Redman keeps looking like he did at the goal-line we might have found what we were looking for in Mendy.
              So the first rounder didn't look all that great with the poor blocking against AZ's #1s while running a generic offense and it's cause to worry about him...but on the other hand an UDFA looked good against scrubs who offered little by way of penetration and he may be what we were looking for in the 1st rounder?

              With all due respect, that does not make sense.



              I'd like Redman to be a success just as much as the next guy, but let's be realistic here...if he can do what he did against our opponent's #1s (and according to what Tomlin said we may get the chance to see that) then I'd say there is cause for excitement with regards to Redman...and cause for concern with regards to Mendy.

              And something to keep in mind...Mendy averaged 3.3 (before he was hurt) against the Ravens in week 4. That's pretty tough sledding right there and I thought he looked pretty good against them until the freak injury.

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              • birtikidis
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 4628

                #8
                Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

                dude don't even argue against stlrzd. he brought out the chewbacca arguement (and he's right), so you have absolutely no chance.
                touche stlrzd touche.

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                • RuthlessBurgher
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 33208

                  #9
                  Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

                  Originally posted by birtikidis
                  dude don't even argue against stlrzd. he brought out the chewbacca arguement (and he's right), so you have absolutely no chance.
                  touche stlrzd touche.
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                  • brothervad
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1914

                    #10
                    Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

                    Do you guys remember back in band camp (June or so of last year on the Tribune's old site)

                    When Steelers Fo Life said we should purge FWP ASAP in order to leverage the greatness that will be Mendy.

                    My friends I do not come here to condemn Mendy, but I am glad draft-niks do not run the Steelers FO



                    brothervad

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                    • feltdizz
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 27531

                      #11
                      Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

                      Originally posted by brothervad
                      Do you guys remember back in band camp (June or so of last year on the Tribune's old site)

                      When Steelers Fo Life said we should purge FWP ASAP in order to leverage the greatness that will be Mendy.

                      My friends I do not come here to condemn Mendy, but I am glad draft-niks do not run the Steelers FO



                      brothervad
                      DVS ONE said if a team wanted to trade for FWP we should take it because Mendenhall would show so much in preseason and takeover the #1 RB job by week 8...

                      I was labeled a hater because I generally do like FWP and thought Mend was overhyped as an inside runner who could break tackles and get tough yards... he was a HB who ran though gaping holes in a spread option in college..

                      I still think outside of the fumbling last year Mend did show flashes of being a beast..

                      However, unlike Timmons, who showed remarkable flashes of closing speed while also looking lost at times.. .. we have yet to see Mend explode so some are nervous.. myself included..
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                      • isonator07
                        Backup
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 341

                        #12
                        Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

                        Originally posted by stlrz d
                        Originally posted by isonator07
                        Very good point about Verron Haynes. He does remind me of Haynes. I was really stoked about seeing him Thursday, and I'm not ready to give up but I'm definitely starting to worry. I might be wrong but I don't remember his YPC being all that impressive in any of the games since being drafted. Although if Redman keeps looking like he did at the goal-line we might have found what we were looking for in Mendy.
                        So the first rounder didn't look all that great with the poor blocking against AZ's #1s while running a generic offense and it's cause to worry about him...but on the other hand an UDFA looked good against scrubs who offered little by way of penetration and he may be what we were looking for in the 1st rounder?

                        With all due respect, that does not make sense.



                        I'd like Redman to be a success just as much as the next guy, but let's be realistic here...if he can do what he did against our opponent's #1s (and according to what Tomlin said we may get the chance to see that) then I'd say there is cause for excitement with regards to Redman...and cause for concern with regards to Mendy.

                        And something to keep in mind...Mendy averaged 3.3 (before he was hurt) against the Ravens in week 4. That's pretty tough sledding right there and I thought he looked pretty good against them until the freak injury.

                        I'm aware of the level of competion that Redman faced. I don't actually buy into that as a reason to not hype a player. Players come from small schools to the nfl and excell despite playing against lesser competition. James Harrison comes from a smaller school and had to play in garbage time in the beginning as well. FWP had to do his thing vs "scrubs". The guy took the time he was given and stood out which I don't know about you but along with staying healthy is what I want to see in the preseason.

                        As for Mendy, is 3.1 ypc good enough? I don't think it is. He was less than impressive to me in the preseason also. I want to repeat that I'm not giving up on Mendy, I'm starting to wonder though if there was good reason for him to have slipped to us when there were teams that picked ahead of us that needed a RB.

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                        • stlrz d
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 9244

                          #13
                          Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

                          Originally posted by isonator07
                          Originally posted by stlrz d
                          Originally posted by isonator07
                          Very good point about Verron Haynes. He does remind me of Haynes. I was really stoked about seeing him Thursday, and I'm not ready to give up but I'm definitely starting to worry. I might be wrong but I don't remember his YPC being all that impressive in any of the games since being drafted. Although if Redman keeps looking like he did at the goal-line we might have found what we were looking for in Mendy.
                          So the first rounder didn't look all that great with the poor blocking against AZ's #1s while running a generic offense and it's cause to worry about him...but on the other hand an UDFA looked good against scrubs who offered little by way of penetration and he may be what we were looking for in the 1st rounder?

                          With all due respect, that does not make sense.



                          I'd like Redman to be a success just as much as the next guy, but let's be realistic here...if he can do what he did against our opponent's #1s (and according to what Tomlin said we may get the chance to see that) then I'd say there is cause for excitement with regards to Redman...and cause for concern with regards to Mendy.

                          And something to keep in mind...Mendy averaged 3.3 (before he was hurt) against the Ravens in week 4. That's pretty tough sledding right there and I thought he looked pretty good against them until the freak injury.

                          I'm aware of the level of competion that Redman faced. I don't actually buy into that as a reason to not hype a player. Players come from small schools to the nfl and excell despite playing against lesser competition. James Harrison comes from a smaller school and had to play in garbage time in the beginning as well. FWP had to do his thing vs "scrubs". The guy took the time he was given and stood out which I don't know about you but along with staying healthy is what I want to see in the preseason.

                          As for Mendy, is 3.1 ypc good enough? I don't think it is. He was less than impressive to me in the preseason also. I want to repeat that I'm not giving up on Mendy, I'm starting to wonder though if there was good reason for him to have slipped to us when there were teams that picked ahead of us that needed a RB.
                          I don't think you quite got my point. If Redman can repeat what he did against NFL starters then there is reason to be excited. Right now there is reason to be optimistic, but not necessarily excited. Apparently today in goal line he scored 5 TDs in 7 tries...with Summers as a lead blocker...so that makes me a bit more optimistic, but I have to see it in an actual game (even pre-season) against an opponents #1s to get truly excited about it.

                          As for that last part, you can say that about a lot of players. Anyone not drafted #1 overall in fact. Seriously, that means nothing. Now when a guy who is expected to go round 1 falls to 3rd round or beyond...then there's reason to wonder.

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                          • NorthCoast
                            Legend
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 26636

                            #14
                            Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

                            Yes, Redman scored against scrubs, but the guy is a 3rd stringer himself. He has made the most of his opportunities and Tomlin is doing the right thing by giving him more and better opportunities. He may or may not be all that, but there is only one way to find out and I am glad that our HC does not have some pre-conceived notion about high draft picks getting all the reps to the exclusion of other hopefuls.

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                            • feltdizz
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                              • May 2008
                              • 27531

                              #15
                              Re: Steelers still not sure about what they have in Mendenhall

                              Originally posted by NorthCoast
                              Yes, Redman scored against scrubs, but the guy is a 3rd stringer himself. He has made the most of his opportunities and Tomlin is doing the right thing by giving him more and better opportunities. He may or may not be all that, but there is only one way to find out and I am glad that our HC does not have some pre-conceived notion about high draft picks getting all the reps to the exclusion of other hopefuls.
                              bingo... Redman ran over the scrubs.. this is what god players do...
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