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  • RuthlessBurgher
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    • May 2008
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    Predict the Joe Greene Award for Steelers Rookie of the Year

    No one would have predicted that the undrafted Patrick Bailey would have won rookie of the year last year, especially since many folks here were expecting great things from Rashard Mendenhall and Limas Sweed as immediate impact players. Give me the guys that you think have the best shot at earning the Joe Greene Award this year.

    My Top Five:

    1. Joe Burnett
    2. Mike Wallace

    I think just like last year, our rookie of the year will come down to special teams contributions more than anything else. I don't think either of these guys will show much as rookies in their likely roles as the #5 CB and #5 WR respectively, but they could give this team an added dimension in terms of dangerous return men that we have not seen since Antwaan Randle El signed in Washington. I think Burnett will handle the vast majority of the punt returns while Wallace will handle the vast majority of the kick returns. I give Burnett the slight advantage here since I think he will have more opportunities. Since punt returns come after our defense stops a team and kick returns come after our defense allows the other team to score, I think we will see more of the former than the latter. I wouldn't be surprised to see Burnett take 2 punts to the house this season while Wallace takes a kick back for a score as well.

    3. Kraig Urbik

    Everyone seems to be assuming that Trai Essex has all but wrapped up the starting RG position on the basis of Stapleton's injury and Urbik's lackluster performance early in camp. However, we haven't even had a single pre-season snap yet, and Urbik's reputation is a guy who looks out of play in individual drills but flourishes in actual game play. I think there is still a chance that Urbik impresses in these 4 pre-season games, and if he manages to win the starting right guard, then he could be a shoo-in for the rookie of the year award. I'm not counting him out yet.

    4. Ziggy Hood

    His linemates have nothing but good things to say about the kid, which is certainly promising. But it still takes time for anyone to adjust to the transition from 4-3 DT to 3-4 DE, all while trying to transition from college speed to NFL speed like every other rookie. He may spell Smith and Keisel in the early downs at times (although I think Kirshchke and/or Eason will still do that most of the time). I think his primary contribution will be as a pass-rushing DT in a 4 man front in nickle and dime passing situations, which is more similar to the role he played in college. If he can generate pressure in that role, and possibly a few sacks, he could be in the running for the award.

    5. Isaac Redman

    Since Bailey won the award last year out of nowhere, I have to at least pick someone out of left field as a wild card candidate. With Summers reported running high in camp (appropriate pad level is vital in order to be a short yardage back at this level), there is a possibility that the undrafted rookie out of Bowie State could beat out the much heralded Tank. If this kid shows that he can play special teams as well as run hard between the tackles, he could be a surprise...
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  • sd steel
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    • May 2008
    • 912

    #2
    Re: Predict the Joe Greene Award for Steelers Rookie of the Year

    Ziggy

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    • Jigawatts
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      • May 2008
      • 2639

      #3
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      Mike Wallace.
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      • D Rock
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        • Dec 2008
        • 2797

        #4
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        just so I can be first...Keenan Lewis


        an injury to a DB gives him a chance to play as the third cb in a couple games and he records 2 picks and takes one to the house

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        • Flasteel
          Hall of Famer
          • May 2008
          • 4004

          #5
          Re: Predict the Joe Greene Award for Steelers Rookie of the Year

          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
          1. Joe Burnett
          2. Mike Wallace

          I think just like last year, our rookie of the year will come down to special teams contributions more than anything else. I don't think either of these guys will show much as rookies in their likely roles as the #5 CB and #5 WR respectively, but they could give this team an added dimension in terms of dangerous return men that we have not seen since Antwaan Randle El signed in Washington. I think Burnett will handle the vast majority of the punt returns while Wallace will handle the vast majority of the kick returns. I give Burnett the slight advantage here since I think he will have more opportunities. Since punt returns come after our defense stops a team and kick returns come after our defense allows the other team to score, I think we will see more of the former than the latter. I wouldn't be surprised to see Burnett take 2 punts to the house this season while Wallace takes a kick back for a score as well.
          Agreed on all points RB. My pick is Burnett all the way (not just because we both went to UCF), with Wallace a slight second. Wallace looks like he might have more opportunities to create big plays however. I think that his speed factor will get him on the field as a deep target fairly regularly, even if it is as a fourth receiver. Burnett will only see the field on defense due to injuries. I get that Burnett will have more touches (as long he is the sole punt returner), but Wallace may well be the first read on a lot of strategically placed deep balls.

          That said, I still like Burnett by a nose.

          Hopefully we'll get a look at the future tonight.
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          • BradshawsHairdresser
            Legend
            • Dec 2008
            • 7056

            #6
            Re: Predict the Joe Greene Award for Steelers Rookie of the Year

            Frank the Tank

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            • Eddie Spaghetti
              Hall of Famer
              • Jul 2008
              • 4123

              #7
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              i just hope it doesn't come down to another scenario like last year where nobody deserved the damn thing.

              but i will go with wallace.

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              • stlrz d
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                • May 2008
                • 9244

                #8
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                Wallace

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                • ANPSTEEL
                  Starter
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 888

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                  to me it's between Wallace and Hood.

                  Who is on the field more- and what would they need to accomplish to win the award??

                  Lets see-

                  Hood will likely get in on passing downs, possibly rotating at DE through out the game.
                  Of course if Smith or Kiesel is injured- he likely steps in.

                  He could have as many as 4 sacks maybe a forced fumble and 20 - 30 tackles. just guessing here...

                  Wallace may see the field in 4 wide... and will probably rotate in occassionally ... my thinking is that Sweed will be #3 and McDonald will be #4 with the possibility of those being flipped. He will also see the field as KR.

                  My thoughts are....

                  If Wallace really picks up the offense- better than your average 1st year receiver- then he could take the #3 spot. IF that happens- I don't think it matters what Hood does, Wallace is rookie of the year.

                  BUT i dont think this is likely... so for me- I'm going with Hood.

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                  • mshifko
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                    • May 2008
                    • 686

                    #10
                    Re: Predict the Joe Greene Award for Steelers Rookie of the Year

                    ziggy hood
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                    • Discipline of Steel
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 3882

                      #11
                      Re: Predict the Joe Greene Award for Steelers Rookie of the Year

                      Keenan Lewis - He doesnt have to win a starting spot to gain significant playing time. Our 3rd CB will see plenty of time on the field.
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                      • Jom112
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 1496

                        #12
                        Re: Predict the Joe Greene Award for Steelers Rookie of the Year

                        Mike Wallace. Too much skill to keep him off the field...

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                        • flippy
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                          • Dec 2008
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                          #13
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                          • MeetJoeGreene
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                            • May 2008
                            • 3221

                            #14
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                            Undrafted FA Redman.
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                            • phillyesq
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 7568

                              #15
                              Re: Predict the Joe Greene Award for Steelers Rookie of the Year

                              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                              No one would have predicted that the undrafted Patrick Bailey would have won rookie of the year last year, especially since many folks here were expecting great things from Rashard Mendenhall and Limas Sweed as immediate impact players. Give me the guys that you think have the best shot at earning the Joe Greene Award this year.

                              My Top Five:

                              1. Joe Burnett
                              2. Mike Wallace

                              I think just like last year, our rookie of the year will come down to special teams contributions more than anything else. I don't think either of these guys will show much as rookies in their likely roles as the #5 CB and #5 WR respectively, but they could give this team an added dimension in terms of dangerous return men that we have not seen since Antwaan Randle El signed in Washington. I think Burnett will handle the vast majority of the punt returns while Wallace will handle the vast majority of the kick returns. I give Burnett the slight advantage here since I think he will have more opportunities. Since punt returns come after our defense stops a team and kick returns come after our defense allows the other team to score, I think we will see more of the former than the latter. I wouldn't be surprised to see Burnett take 2 punts to the house this season while Wallace takes a kick back for a score as well.
                              These guys were my first thought as well. Wallace looks like he has some home run ability in him, and aside from the fumbled punt, I like what I've seen from Burnett.

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