Ben Roethlisberger has to deal with the price of fame

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  • feltdizz
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    • May 2008
    • 27531

    Ben Roethlisberger has to deal with the price of fame

    This is just a portion...whole story is here

    [url]http://www.postgazette.com/pg/09221/989721-66.stm[/url]
    by Daniel Malloy

    While burnishing that image, he has simultaneously earned a reputation for sometimes boorish behavior on the Pittsburgh nightlife scene. Stories abound about a young man who refuses to pay cover charges, is aloof to fans and is petulant to bartenders, who consistently describe him as a customer lacking in courtesy and manners.

    "I have been stunned at the number of people who have come up to me, out of the blue, and said 'What's up with Ben Roethlisberger? He's such a jerk,' " said former KDKA-TV sports anchor John Steigerwald.

    One of the places where he has refused to pay to enter is the Cabana Bar in Pine, which he has frequented since moving to the North Hills in 2006. His argument -- which is undoubtedly true -- is his presence will drive other patrons to the bar, but some chafe at his demands for special treatment.

    "I hate even to have to root for the Steelers when he's the quarterback," said bar owner Mark Baranowski. "Appreciate the people -- don't think you're above them all. It really makes me sick."


    Mr. Roethlisberger, through the Steelers, denied a request to be interviewed for this story.


    That portion is so hilarious... the QB who fills your bar 6 months out of the year and has brought us 2 SB's should pay like everyone else cause he is human just like you...

    now sure he has a right to charge whoever he wants but this logic is very downtown Pittsburgh... kinda reminds me of hearing about how the politicians want more foot traffic in downtown Pittsburgh but they close all the shops at 5 and the parking meters are like 12 bucks for 2 hours... Quarters only..LOL!!!

    and people wonder why Bradshaw avoided this city for ages.. sometimes Pittsburgh is a little too blue collar for it's own good.

    "Appreciate the people -- don't think you're above them all. It really makes me sick."




    sorry dude but he is above the average Pittsburgher.. they don't come to your bar to watch you on TV throwing game winning TD's you dolt... get over yourself and make that money!!!

    I wouldn't be surprised if Ben never returns or goes to the bar across the street this year while this guy watches his revenue dry up...
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  • feltdizz
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 27531

    #2
    Re: Ben Roethlisberger has to deal with the price of fame

    bump... Dammit..

    I hate when my post bomb.
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    • fezziwig
      Hall of Famer
      • Jan 2009
      • 3515

      #3
      Re: Ben Roethlisberger has to deal with the price of fame

      There are a couple of ways of looking at it.

      If I owned the bar, Ben and famous people would not have to pay a cover fee. It's just good business.

      Personally, if I was famous I would still pay the cover fee. What does a few dollars really mean to me if I was as wealthy as Ben or whomever ? If I got to be good friends with the owner and stuff like that and he refused to take my money then, that's a different situation.

      I'm sure it does get old having people in your face but, that is the price and try to deal with it as proffesional and polite as can be.

      Basically I like to consider myself a polite person despite the situation. I'm always polite and treat everyone the same despite their social status. When someone treats me poorly or gives me a hard time, the gloves do come off.

      I'm sure it is hard to be humble with all that Ben has come into or accomplished at a young age.

      Rich or poor, Ben might just not be a people person. Doesn't make him a bad person.

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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27531

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        Re: Ben Roethlisberger has to deal with the price of fame

        Originally posted by fezziwig
        There are a couple of ways of looking at it.

        If I owned the bar, Ben and famous people would not have to pay a cover fee. It's just good business.

        Personally, if I was famous I would still pay the cover fee. What does a few dollars really mean to me if I was as wealthy as Ben or whomever ? If I got to be good friends with the owner and stuff like that and he refused to take my money then, that's a different situation.

        I'm sure it does get old having people in your face but, that is the price and try to deal with it as proffesional and polite as can be.

        Basically I like to consider myself a polite person despite the situation. I'm always polite and treat everyone the same despite their social status. When someone treats me poorly or gives me a hard time, the gloves do come off.

        I'm sure it is hard to be humble with all that Ben has come into or accomplished at a young age.

        Rich or poor, Ben might just not be a people person. Doesn't make him a bad person.
        famous people get so much stuff free I think they expect it...

        and for the most part they are correct. I don't expect Ben to walk in a store and not pay for products... but nightclubs or bars are different.

        With Ben in the place the bar probably makes 3 to 4 times what they would normally make... does charging Ben really help your cost or is it just a jealousy thing?

        I used to promote parties and I once saw a bouncer try to refuse to let the performing act in because the guy didn't bring his ID... I know bouncers have a job but it's like refusing to let Mr. Rooney into Bettis' restaurant because he wasn't dressed properly..

        sure it's the rule.. or the right thing to do but it's kinda petty...


        as for the rest of the article.. when it's every day all day expect Ben to have a few bad days with the average fan...

        he is human..
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        • RuthlessBurgher
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          • May 2008
          • 33208

          #5
          Re: Ben Roethlisberger has to deal with the price of fame

          At least he didn't beat up a cab driver over

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          • Ghost
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 6338

            #6
            Re: Ben Roethlisberger has to deal with the price of fame

            I'd pay the cover charge (in fact I can't fathom how a guy with a $100M contract can't lay down a few bucks - could be an exageration?) but the bar owner really comes across as an a$$clown in the article. If I'm Ben, I'm done with that bar forever.

            And none of us has even the slightest understanding of what it's like to get mobbed everywhere you go and not have the ability to go to Home Depot without people suddenly there with footballs - that's lame.

            For me, his charity work far outweighs anytime he's been cocky at a bar. Some people are just dying to call him names. And the few people I know who've met or know him say nothing but great things about him as a person off the field.
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            • Flasteel
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              • May 2008
              • 4004

              #7
              Re: Ben Roethlisberger has to deal with the price of fame

              I'm glad the article began by detailing all of his charitable work, especially with kids. It is hard to imagine the constant hysteria that must surround him everywhere he goes, so any negative comments about his social behavior also need to be tempered with that fact in mind.

              That said, there are no permissable circumstances where you treat people like you are better than them...period. I agree with how dizz layed out the whole not refusing to pay a cover but accepting freebees from bar owners. If you're going to make a point about not paying, then try to rationalize it by saying you help his business, that is pure bullshit. I'm not saying he's wrong, I'm just saying it's douchebaggery of the highest order.

              I used to bartend at a swanky place down here in Sarasota which catered to the rich (and sometimes famous). More than a few times you run across those patrons who feel they deserve some type of special treatment and are flat out rude about it. It didn't fly with me. Ultimately it lead to my dismissal, but I put every single one of those bastages in their place and let me tell you...it felt great.
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              • RuthlessBurgher
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                • May 2008
                • 33208

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                Re: Ben Roethlisberger has to deal with the price of fame

                Originally posted by Flasteel
                I'm glad the article began by detailing all of his charitable work, especially with kids. It is hard to imagine the constant hysteria that must surround him everywhere he goes, so any negative comments about his social behavior also need to be tempered with that fact in mind.

                That said, there are no permissable circumstances where you treat people like you are better than them...period. I agree with how dizz layed out the whole not refusing to pay a cover but accepting freebees from bar owners. If you're going to make a point about not paying, then try to rationalize it by saying you help his business, that is pure bullshit. I'm not saying he's wrong, I'm just saying it's douchebaggery of the highest order.

                I used to bartend at a swanky place down here in Sarasota which catered to the rich (and sometimes famous). More than a few times you run across those patrons who feel they deserve some type of special treatment and are flat out rude about it. It didn't fly with me. Ultimately it lead to my dismissal, but I put every single one of those bastages in their place and let me tell you...it felt great.
                All righty...spill the beans. Which celebrity did you chew out that lead to your firing?
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                Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                • Jigawatts
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 2639

                  #9
                  Re: Ben Roethlisberger has to deal with the price of fame

                  Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                  All righty...spill the beans. Which celebrity did you chew out that lead to your firing?
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                  • bostonsteeler
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1529

                    #10
                    Re: Ben Roethlisberger has to deal with the price of fame

                    Sorry, but Ben ain't above the rules.
                    If he doesn't have a written contract recusing him the cover charge, and the bar expects him to pay, he must pay.
                    Any excuses to the otherwise bespeak a very stuck up and pompous young man.

                    I take my friends to a bar sometimes. I lead the gang. It would be idiotic of me to tell the barkeep -- dude, you just got 12 more guys because I came in, so I wont pay a cover fee. The guy would bounce all 13 sets of asses out if I did.

                    Same rule holds for Ben. All the charity work he does doesn't count against it. They are separate from one another.

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                    • Starlifter
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                      • May 2008
                      • 5078

                      #11
                      Re: Ben Roethlisberger has to deal with the price of fame

                      i don't know the details in ben's case BUT there is a difference between the owner of an establishment catering to a clientele to increase business and a player who simply assumes they provide a draw and decide on their own what they will and won't do.

                      if the owner of the bar in question thinks ben should be treated like everyone else - ben needs to comply or take his business elsewhere. I think that's a bad business decision by the owner but it's his call to make.
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                      • D Rock
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                        • Dec 2008
                        • 2797

                        #12
                        Re: Ben Roethlisberger has to deal with the price of fame

                        It's a really nice bar. Really over-price, but nice place. It was definitely a bad business move by the owner though because a lot of people don't want to go there with what they charge compared to other bars in the area. They certainly aren't getting much of the business from people my age (college and recently graduated)....we all go to the south side...and the Cabana Bar is just a mile or two down the road. He would definitely be best suited taking advantage of all the athletes that live around this area and using them to promote his bar...


                        But if he doesn't want to do that then Ben needs to submit to the establishment's rules. It's a poor choice on both Ben and the bar owners parts.

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                        • Flasteel
                          Hall of Famer
                          • May 2008
                          • 4004

                          #13
                          Re: Ben Roethlisberger has to deal with the price of fame

                          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                          Originally posted by Flasteel
                          I'm glad the article began by detailing all of his charitable work, especially with kids. It is hard to imagine the constant hysteria that must surround him everywhere he goes, so any negative comments about his social behavior also need to be tempered with that fact in mind.

                          That said, there are no permissable circumstances where you treat people like you are better than them...period. I agree with how dizz layed out the whole not refusing to pay a cover but accepting freebees from bar owners. If you're going to make a point about not paying, then try to rationalize it by saying you help his business, that is pure bullshit. I'm not saying he's wrong, I'm just saying it's douchebaggery of the highest order.

                          I used to bartend at a swanky place down here in Sarasota which catered to the rich (and sometimes famous). More than a few times you run across those patrons who feel they deserve some type of special treatment and are flat out rude about it. It didn't fly with me. Ultimately it lead to my dismissal, but I put every single one of those bastages in their place and let me tell you...it felt great.
                          All righty...spill the beans. Which celebrity did you chew out that lead to your firing?
                          It wasn't a celebrity that did me in, it was the son of this multi-gazillionaire real estate chick. I simply asked him if he was f-ing retarded. I never had to go off on any celebrities but I did basically tell OJ to hit the bricks and kind of went off on our owner when he brought Pedro Martinez in for dinner at closing on a really dead Sunday evening. I had it like that with the owner and could basically say what I wanted, but he was a little pissed that I said what I said in front of Pedro.

                          This just made me think of the night I saw Peyton Manning getting a hummer from some gutter skank behind the place. Hillarious stuff. He even got busted in the act by police right in front of me.
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                          • feelthesteel

                            #14
                            Re: Ben Roethlisberger has to deal with the price of fame

                            Some celebs can be douchey
                            so what maybe Bens a douche i dont care
                            as long as he wins.
                            I met some cool celebs some *******s.

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                            • feltdizz
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                              • May 2008
                              • 27531

                              #15
                              Re: Ben Roethlisberger has to deal with the price of fame

                              Is Peyton married?
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