"Choose Jesus Christ Over the World"

[feltdizz]

Re: "Choose Jesus Christ Over the World"

Any particular reason that Jesus Christ has to become the focal point of the thread title? I recognize that this was more than likely a quote that RW said during his induction speech (I did not watch it). However, the fact that he is a Christian is hardly a reason to bash him.

Just wonder if the same would have been done if he had professed a reverence for Allah and Islam.

If he said Allah the board would be on fire.. I hate how people now a days claim we hate christians and love or tolerate Islam when we have probably killed a million civilians over in Iraq and Afhganistan...

For Christ sake.. Christians are supposed to be tougher then this... WWJD dude? Jesus didn't say... what about Allah? He didn't point to others to try to get off the cross..

stop the whining about Christianity vs. Islam... it's a stupid argument and tends to lean on the fake conservative christian movement in this country that has turned us into fake christians who stray from christianity "in the name of christianity"

God is not in any of this.. it's all man made BS to justify killing..

[Captain Lemming]

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wow if that is true it really changes my perspective of woodson. i always asumed the steelers offered him less than what the 49ers did. why would he take less with the 49ers? especially being on some average steeler teams and then finally making it to the sb. i never held it against him for taking more money with the 49ers but if he really did take less than i dont know what to make of that.

Woodson did not "choose" less money, but was forced to "settle" for far less than he thought he was worth. The Steelers had stopped negotiating with him.

Believing himself to still be a premier corner, he snubbed the Steelers, confident, he could get more dough by shopping around. This forced the Steelers to make other arrangements. They tried to sign Rod right up to the draft.

The Steelers broke off negotiations with Woodson on April 19, 1997 when they selected Chad Scott in the first round of the draft and came to terms with former Chicago Bears corner Donnell Woolford, on a four-year, $5.6 million contract. After the Steelers ended negotiations, Woodson said, "I think they thought I would panic, which is ludicrous," he says. "I didn't get to this point by not being calm under pressure."

The above quote was made before he realized the best he would get was 2.5 for a year with the Niners.

Woodson was a great corner, but was occasionally "burned" because he took risks,and lost, overconfident in his abilities.

He negotiated just like he played. And he lost by snubbing the Steelers, to test the market.

[feltdizz]

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sometimes you win and sometimes you lose...

I can't be mad at Woodson trying to get more money at that point in his career..

it's like the stock market in some senses.. everyone wants to sell at the highest point...
but sometimes the market corrects itself before you get a chance to sell...

You do wonder if the only reason he didn't resign was similar to Faneca's reasoning.. just feeling disrespected and not wanting to save face and come back to the team.

I wonder if Woodson and players like that feel kinda homeless once they retire...

You look at Bettis and you know he has a home.. he took the paycut and is a Steeler for life..

also didn't Woodson and Hines fall out over a dealership negotiation? Sometimes I wonder if a guy like Woodson retired a Steeler if all his deals would have had a better outcome.

[NW Steeler]

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It's kind of hard to believe that some still seem bitter about his leaving. I hated the fact that he played for the Ravens, but he is a Steeler. I had no problem with his speech, other than it being pretty long winded. He said that the Steeler organization is the best in sports. He appreciated the fact that Steeler fans booed him as a Raven. He is a Steeler, no matter if he ended up being a "mutt" or not. I wish he would have played his entire career for the Steelers, but I harbor no ill will towards him, even though he played for the Rats. The only problem I had was one of his kids wearing a Rats jersey. That is child abuse right there!

[Wolfhound45]

Re: "Choose Jesus Christ Over the World"

Any particular reason that Jesus Christ has to become the focal point of the thread title? I recognize that this was more than likely a quote that RW said during his induction speech (I did not watch it). However, the fact that he is a Christian is hardly a reason to bash him.

Just wonder if the same would have been done if he had professed a reverence for Allah and Islam.

If he said Allah the board would be on fire.. I hate how people now a days claim we hate christians and love or tolerate Islam when we have probably killed a million civilians over in Iraq and Afhganistan...

For Christ sake.. Christians are supposed to be tougher then this... WWJD dude? Jesus didn't say... what about Allah? He didn't point to others to try to get off the cross..

stop the whining about Christianity vs. Islam... it's a stupid argument and tends to lean on the fake conservative christian movement in this country that has turned us into fake christians who stray from christianity "in the name of christianity"

God is not in any of this.. it's all man made BS to justify killing..

Not whining. Asking a legitimate question. The point is (which you so easily missed) is how about we leave religion out of the discussion completely? This is about professional football, not Christianity of Islam.

[flippy]

Re: "Choose Jesus Christ Over the World"

Any particular reason that Jesus Christ has to become the focal point of the thread title? I recognize that this was more than likely a quote that RW said during his induction speech (I did not watch it). However, the fact that he is a Christian is hardly a reason to bash him.

Just wonder if the same would have been done if he had professed a reverence for Allah and Islam.

That was Woodson's final line in his induction speech.

His whole speech culminated in choosing what's important rather than what's not - like Jesus over the world because the things of this world don't matter - like being white, black, Steeler, Raven, Raider, etc.

Just shared my 2 cents on the speech. I really didn't bash him. Just noticed he doesn't associate himself with the Steelers and his former teammates based on what I heard.

Whoever he praised, I would have the same comments and thoughts - I was left thinking wow - Rod doesn't define himself so much with being a Steeler as many others have like Jack Lambert, et al.

[feltdizz]

Re: "Choose Jesus Christ Over the World"

Any particular reason that Jesus Christ has to become the focal point of the thread title? I recognize that this was more than likely a quote that RW said during his induction speech (I did not watch it). However, the fact that he is a Christian is hardly a reason to bash him.

Just wonder if the same would have been done if he had professed a reverence for Allah and Islam.

If he said Allah the board would be on fire.. I hate how people now a days claim we hate christians and love or tolerate Islam when we have probably killed a million civilians over in Iraq and Afhganistan...

For Christ sake.. Christians are supposed to be tougher then this... WWJD dude? Jesus didn't say... what about Allah? He didn't point to others to try to get off the cross..

stop the whining about Christianity vs. Islam... it's a stupid argument and tends to lean on the fake conservative christian movement in this country that has turned us into fake christians who stray from christianity "in the name of christianity"

God is not in any of this.. it's all man made BS to justify killing..

Not whining. Asking a legitimate question. The point is (which you so easily missed) is how about we leave religion out of the discussion completely? This is about professional football, not Christianity of Islam.

gotcha.. just thought the Islam comment was pressing the whole liberal "anything but christianity argument" so many seem to be on...

[Wolfhound45]

Re: "Choose Jesus Christ Over the World"

Any particular reason that Jesus Christ has to become the focal point of the thread title? I recognize that this was more than likely a quote that RW said during his induction speech (I did not watch it). However, the fact that he is a Christian is hardly a reason to bash him.

Just wonder if the same would have been done if he had professed a reverence for Allah and Islam.

That was Woodson's final line in his induction speech.

His whole speech culminated in choosing what's important rather than what's not - like Jesus over the world because the things of this world don't matter - like being white, black, Steeler, Raven, Raider, etc.

Just shared my 2 cents on the speech. I really didn't bash him. Just noticed he doesn't associate himself with the Steelers and his former teammates based on what I heard.

Whoever he praised, I would have the same comments and thoughts - I was left thinking wow - Rod doesn't define himself so much with being a Steeler as many others have like Jack Lambert, et al.

Fair enough. I reserved judgment/asked for clarification because I did not see (or hear) the speech (no context). Would have preferred that it be left out but can understand why you wrote what you wrote. It was disappointing (but understandable) that he did not clearly identify himself as a Steeler (even though the HoF does not require it). May only be me, but I still love the guy though. Wish we could have inked him to a "one day" deal so he could retire as a Steeler. Fairly certain (but not completely) that the Rooneys just do not do that kind of thing.

[Acero]

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...the fact that he is a Christian is hardly a reason to bash him.

Just wonder if the same would have been done if he had professed a reverence for Allah and Islam.

No, the same would NOT have happened. If he'd professed a reverence for Allah and Islam he would have been not bashed, but reviled, defiled, rejected and dismissed.

To pretend or even suggest that Christians in the USA are a victimized, persecuted minority and Muslims are somehow more respected, or in positions of more power, is either self-delusion or deliberate deceit.

Just sayin'.

But worse than being a Muslim in America? Being an Atheist. Wow, that will REALLY get you thrown off the island.

[steelcityrules!!]

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So woodson wants to retire as a rat?
he's also thumping the bible?

There must have been some better programming on.

I agree with Flippy on all points.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Re: "Choose Jesus Christ Over the World"

...the fact that he is a Christian is hardly a reason to bash him.

Just wonder if the same would have been done if he had professed a reverence for Allah and Islam.

No, the same would NOT have happened. If he'd professed a reverence for Allah and Islam he would have been not bashed, but reviled, defiled, rejected and dismissed.

To pretend or even suggest that Christians in the USA are a victimized, persecuted minority and Muslims are somehow more respected, or in positions of more power, is either self-delusion or deliberate deceit.

Just sayin'.

But worse than being a Muslim in America? Being an Atheist. Wow, that will REALLY get you thrown off the island.

Oh, come on. How long have you been living outside of the USA?

I agree with you that Christians are not being persecuted in America...but neither are Muslims or Atheists. I know plenty of folks of all three persuasions, and I'm not aware of any of them being "reviled, defiled, rejected and dismissed" or "thrown off the island." There are countries in the world where people ARE being persecuted for their religious convictions, but in America? No way (and BTW, a bit of needling and a joke or two do not meet the criteria for "persecution").

[Starlifter]

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a couple of quick thoughts.

i admit my faith is not very strong - but every time i hear a professional athlete thanking god and saying how blessed they are, it makes me think god plays favorites cause i sure ain't in the NFL and have to work overtime just to afford steeler tickets.

i was anticipating the speech and thought since he's been on tv for the last 5 years it would be a good one. it was actually very boring. doesn't NFL network have any writers to help out?

I thought it was ok he mentioned the other teams. they all paid him millions, that probably deserves a shoutout.

I usually don't listen to the words coming out of rod's mouth cause that ridiculous goatee sucks all my attention. He should shave completely or at least go back to his 'porn-star' mustache.....

It's been too long since he played in PIT, we didn't win a championship with him here. When I visit canton, i'll pause by his bust for a moment and then go looking for Jack Lambert.