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  • fordfixer
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    • May 2008
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    Steelers receiver finding his Sweed spot early in camp

    Steelers receiver finding his Sweed spot early in camp

    Tuesday, August 04, 2009

    By Gerry Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

    Steelers receiver finding his Sweed spot early in camp

    See Limas run. See Limas catch. More important, see Limas know where to go and what to do when he gets there.

    Three days into training camp and not much has stood out more at Saint Vincent College than Limas Sweed, not even James Harrison's Smart car. He runs routes with authority, catches passes seemingly with ease and even has learned to find a seam or two in a zone defense. In other words, all the things he did not do last season as the team's No. 2 draft choice.

    "I said to him the other day, 'Who's that big, pretty guy out there running,' " offensive coordinator Bruce Arians said. "He said, 'Man, this is so much different than last year.' "

    OK, so it's a little early to pronounce Sweed as the biggest and newest weapon in the Steelers' offensive arsenal, a fact coach Mike Tomlin was quick to note the other day. And maybe a few preseason games are needed to see if Sweed is ready, if not capable, of replacing Nate Washington as the team's No. 3 receiver, a job that is his to lose.

    But one thing is certain: Sweed probably has already made more plays in three days of camp than he did all of last season when the 6-foot-4, 220-pound receiver was a confused, gangly rookie who made even the most routine catch look difficult.

    "This training camp to last training camp is night and day for him," Arians said. "He knows what he's doing, he's playing fast and he hasn't many errors and dropped balls. He's playing so much faster."

    Sweed can tell the difference, too.

    "I was totally confused last year," Sweed said. "I wasn't in and out of my breaks properly. I was just thinking too much. It's like anything -- if you second-guess yourself and you're not quite sure [what you are doing], you're not going to be as sharp, you're not going to be quite as proficient.

    "Now I'm ready. I understand. I know what's going on. I know where I have to be, whereas last year, in zone, I didn't know where I had to be."

    Sweed caught only six passes for 64 yards in 11 regular-season games last season -- three came against the New York Giants -- but he received a little more playing time in the postseason when Hines Ward was injured. But he was remembered for his drop of what would have been an easy 60-yard touchdown in the AFC championship game against the Baltimore Ravens, a mistake that was exacerbated when he appeared to indicate he was injured on the play.

    But, one thing the coaches have always liked about Sweed: He's a hard worker who doesn't quit trying to improve. A couple of plays after his drop, he delivered a crushing block on Ravens cornerback Corey Ivy that endeared himself to his teammates.

    "He's conscientious ... maybe too conscientious," Arians said. "He's got good grit and he's got good accountability about him."

    Then Arians paused and said: "I just wish he was a little cockier at times. That's what wideouts need -- that little edge to them. It might come out now that he's getting more comfortable."

    Sweed will be challenged for the third receiving spot, primarily by rookie speedster Mike Wallace, a third-round pick from Mississippi, and seven-year veteran Shaun McDonald, a late free-agent pickup from the Detroit Lions. McDonald (5-10, 183) had 79 catches for 943 yards two years ago with the Lions.

    But Arians is not discounting Martin Nance, who played with Ben Roethlisberger at Miami (Ohio) University and spent last season on the practice squad. Dallas Baker, who began last season on the 53-man roster, and rookie free-agent Brandon Williams will be in the battle for the fourth and fifth receiving spots.

    "It's the same game I've been playing since seventh grade and I made it out to be more than it was," Sweed said. "I've always been a perfectionist. From the time I played basketball when I was little, mother would tell me the same thing -- 'Son, you are your own worst critic, your own toughest critic.'

    "I think that's good. I never stopped being that. That's the drive, that's the burn that pushes me inside. That's going to get me to be the type of player I want to be."

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  • schillah

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    Re: Steelers receiver finding his Sweed spot early in camp

    'Who's that big, pretty guy out there running,' " offensive coordinator Bruce Arians said


    lol I love his good choice of adjectives

    nothing a football player wants more than being called pretty

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    • phillyesq
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      • May 2008
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      #3
      Re: Steelers receiver finding his Sweed spot early in camp

      I know that everything always sounds rosy the first few days of training camp, but it is great to hear that Sweed seems to be coming around. If he can even begin to start realizing his potential, the Steelers will have another great weapon on offense.

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      • Oviedo
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        • May 2008
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        The fact that Sweed is showing well in camp will disappoint many who were ripping him last year as a bust. Need to keep in mind that the transition to WR in the NFL is one of the most difficult to make. It took Holmes a couple of years to really begin to emerge.

        Sweed seems to be proving he is beginning to put it all together. If he plays to his potential he will be a "steal" getting him in Round 2 and more importantly he along with Wallace will help the phase out of the Hines Ward era be less painful.
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        • steelsnis
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          • Dec 2008
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          Re: Steelers receiver finding his Sweed spot early in camp

          But one thing is certain: Sweed probably has already made more plays in three days of camp than he did all of last season when the 6-foot-4, 220-pound receiver was a confused, gangly rookie who made even the most routine catch look difficult.

          "This training camp to last training camp is night and day for him," Arians said. "He knows what he's doing, he's playing fast and he hasn't many errors and dropped balls. He's playing so much faster."

          Sweed can tell the difference, too.

          "I was totally confused last year," Sweed said. "I wasn't in and out of my breaks properly. I was just thinking too much. It's like anything -- if you second-guess yourself and you're not quite sure [what you are doing], you're not going to be as sharp, you're not going to be quite as proficient.

          "Now I'm ready. I understand. I know what's going on. I know where I have to be, whereas last year, in zone, I didn't know where I had to be."
          Seems to me that this sounds a lot like a certain second-year linebacker for this team last year, who also started to get himself noticed in a positive way during training camp.

          People generally seem to expect a bit too much out of first-year guys, but if they have it, it'll come out when they start to get comfortable with the new schemes and surroundings.

          Let's hope L.Sweed continues to impress!

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          • feltdizz
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            • May 2008
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            Re: Steelers receiver finding his Sweed spot early in camp

            I never expected Sweed nor any rookie for that matter to set the world on fire. My argument was with Sweed was the drops... now Nate was bashed all day long and his production for a #3 WR was also bashed...

            but if Sweed puts up #3 tyhpe stats we will be happy.. but with Nate most were not. I understand Nate wasn't worth what the Titans paid for him but I'm curious to see what fans expect from Sweed this year.

            If he drops one early is he a bust or just a WR in his 2nd year?
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            • flippy
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              • Dec 2008
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              Re: Steelers receiver finding his Sweed spot early in camp

              I wanna see if Sweed is physical.

              His softness last year reminded me of Ricardo Cocolough.

              Guy has very evident skills and talent.

              But he needs to translate that into being a tough football player.

              Ricardo couldn't unfortunately.

              Even though he flashed great athleticism.

              There's a lot of great athletes that just arent tough enough to play in the NFL.

              That's the concern I have with Sweed.

              His talent is obviously there.
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              • RuthlessBurgher
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                Re: Steelers receiver finding his Sweed spot early in camp

                Originally posted by feltdizz
                I never expected Sweed nor any rookie for that matter to set the world on fire. My argument was with Sweed was the drops... now Nate was bashed all day long and his production for a #3 WR was also bashed...

                but if Sweed puts up #3 tyhpe stats we will be happy.. but with Nate most were not. I understand Nate wasn't worth what the Titans paid for him but I'm curious to see what fans expect from Sweed this year.

                If he drops one early is he a bust or just a WR in his 2nd year?
                If he drops one early, it only means that he is human. People tend to blow things way out of proportion at times. People always seemed to focus on a handful of drops Washington had, but forget about the dozen TD's he had in the past 3 seasons. Hopefully, people will be able to focuses on Sweed's big plays this upcoming season as opposed to the inevitable drops that will occur from time to time.
                Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                • BURGH86STEEL
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                  Re: Steelers receiver finding his Sweed spot early in camp

                  Originally posted by flippy
                  I wanna see if Sweed is physical.

                  His softness last year reminded me of Ricardo Cocolough.

                  Guy has very evident skills and talent.

                  But he needs to translate that into being a tough football player.

                  Ricardo couldn't unfortunately.

                  Even though he flashed great athleticism.

                  There's a lot of great athletes that just arent tough enough to play in the NFL.

                  That's the concern I have with Sweed.

                  His talent is obviously there.
                  How many times did you see Sweed display softness? What in your eyes made him soft and not tough? I know that he showed the willingness to block. Remember the Ravens game? He laid someone out after Miller made a catch.

                  I would understand the criticism of him not catching the ball. I don't understand the criticism of him being soft or compared to Ricardo.

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                  • BURGH86STEEL
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                    • May 2008
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                    Re: Steelers receiver finding his Sweed spot early in camp

                    Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                    Originally posted by feltdizz
                    I never expected Sweed nor any rookie for that matter to set the world on fire. My argument was with Sweed was the drops... now Nate was bashed all day long and his production for a #3 WR was also bashed...

                    but if Sweed puts up #3 tyhpe stats we will be happy.. but with Nate most were not. I understand Nate wasn't worth what the Titans paid for him but I'm curious to see what fans expect from Sweed this year.

                    If he drops one early is he a bust or just a WR in his 2nd year?
                    If he drops one early, it only means that he is human. People tend to blow things way out of proportion at times. People always seemed to focus on a handful of drops Washington had, but forget about the dozen TD's he had in the past 3 seasons. Hopefully, people will be able to focuses on Sweed's big plays this upcoming season as opposed to the inevitable drops that will occur from time to time.

                    I agree, Ward probably dropped more passes than any other player on the team. Since Ward gets more opportunities to make amends, the dropped passes get over looked.

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                    • flippy
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                      • Dec 2008
                      • 17088

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                      Re: Steelers receiver finding his Sweed spot early in camp

                      Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                      Originally posted by flippy
                      I wanna see if Sweed is physical.

                      His softness last year reminded me of Ricardo Cocolough.

                      Guy has very evident skills and talent.

                      But he needs to translate that into being a tough football player.

                      Ricardo couldn't unfortunately.

                      Even though he flashed great athleticism.

                      There's a lot of great athletes that just arent tough enough to play in the NFL.

                      That's the concern I have with Sweed.

                      His talent is obviously there.
                      How many times did you see Sweed display softness? What in your eyes made him soft and not tough? I know that he showed the willingness to block. Remember the Ravens game? He laid someone out after Miller made a catch.

                      I would understand the criticism of him not catching the ball. I don't understand the criticism of him being soft or compared to Ricardo.
                      The Ravens game was one play and I hope it's a sign that he likes contact.

                      There were many other plays where he just looks flimsy when contact was made with him.

                      I'm hopeful it was more indecision than anything.

                      He's a big kid that should be able to use his size as an advantage and he hasn't thus far.

                      It's a bit unknown still.
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                      • ikestops85
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                        • Jun 2008
                        • 3724

                        #12
                        Re: Steelers receiver finding his Sweed spot early in camp

                        Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                        Originally posted by feltdizz
                        I never expected Sweed nor any rookie for that matter to set the world on fire. My argument was with Sweed was the drops... now Nate was bashed all day long and his production for a #3 WR was also bashed...

                        but if Sweed puts up #3 tyhpe stats we will be happy.. but with Nate most were not. I understand Nate wasn't worth what the Titans paid for him but I'm curious to see what fans expect from Sweed this year.

                        If he drops one early is he a bust or just a WR in his 2nd year?
                        If he drops one early, it only means that he is human. People tend to blow things way out of proportion at times. People always seemed to focus on a handful of drops Washington had, but forget about the dozen TD's he had in the past 3 seasons. Hopefully, people will be able to focuses on Sweed's big plays this upcoming season as opposed to the inevitable drops that will occur from time to time.

                        I agree, Ward probably dropped more passes than any other player on the team. Since Ward gets more opportunities to make amends, the dropped passes get over looked.
                        Ward was also the target more often than anyone else on the team. It's not necessarily the number of drops but the percentage of drops. If you have 5 drops during the season that may be an acceptable number if you are the target 100 times but if you are the target only 25 times then that is unacceptable. That's why Sweed was criticized so much last year and Washington was his entire career here. They dropped a high percentage of passes thrown to them ... and it didn't help that some were touchdown throws.

                        I think it will be great if Sweed gets his confidence back this year and makes plays like we think he can. The problem is we won't know anything until the regular season starts and he has to perform under game pressure.
                        As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

                        but Go Steelers!!!

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                        • BURGH86STEEL
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                          Re: Steelers receiver finding his Sweed spot early in camp

                          Originally posted by ikestops85
                          Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                          Originally posted by feltdizz
                          I never expected Sweed nor any rookie for that matter to set the world on fire. My argument was with Sweed was the drops... now Nate was bashed all day long and his production for a #3 WR was also bashed...

                          but if Sweed puts up #3 tyhpe stats we will be happy.. but with Nate most were not. I understand Nate wasn't worth what the Titans paid for him but I'm curious to see what fans expect from Sweed this year.

                          If he drops one early is he a bust or just a WR in his 2nd year?
                          If he drops one early, it only means that he is human. People tend to blow things way out of proportion at times. People always seemed to focus on a handful of drops Washington had, but forget about the dozen TD's he had in the past 3 seasons. Hopefully, people will be able to focuses on Sweed's big plays this upcoming season as opposed to the inevitable drops that will occur from time to time.

                          I agree, Ward probably dropped more passes than any other player on the team. Since Ward gets more opportunities to make amends, the dropped passes get over looked.
                          Ward was also the target more often than anyone else on the team. It's not necessarily the number of drops but the percentage of drops. If you have 5 drops during the season that may be an acceptable number if you are the target 100 times but if you are the target only 25 times then that is unacceptable. That's why Sweed was criticized so much last year and Washington was his entire career here. They dropped a high percentage of passes thrown to them ... and it didn't help that some were touchdown throws.

                          I think it will be great if Sweed gets his confidence back this year and makes plays like we think he can. The problem is we won't know anything until the regular season starts and he has to perform under game pressure.
                          Are %'s are a true reflection with limited opportunities? The numbers are skewed. That is why I think it is unfair to put to much criticism on those players. I am sure the WR's feel they should catch every pass. I think if those players had more opportunities, they would catch more passes.

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                          • BURGH86STEEL
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                            Re: Steelers receiver finding his Sweed spot early in camp

                            Originally posted by flippy
                            Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                            Originally posted by flippy
                            I wanna see if Sweed is physical.

                            His softness last year reminded me of Ricardo Cocolough.

                            Guy has very evident skills and talent.

                            But he needs to translate that into being a tough football player.

                            Ricardo couldn't unfortunately.

                            Even though he flashed great athleticism.

                            There's a lot of great athletes that just arent tough enough to play in the NFL.

                            That's the concern I have with Sweed.

                            His talent is obviously there.
                            How many times did you see Sweed display softness? What in your eyes made him soft and not tough? I know that he showed the willingness to block. Remember the Ravens game? He laid someone out after Miller made a catch.

                            I would understand the criticism of him not catching the ball. I don't understand the criticism of him being soft or compared to Ricardo.
                            The Ravens game was one play and I hope it's a sign that he likes contact.

                            There were many other plays where he just looks flimsy when contact was made with him.

                            I'm hopeful it was more indecision than anything.

                            He's a big kid that should be able to use his size as an advantage and he hasn't thus far.

                            It's a bit unknown still.
                            I am not sure about the plays in which you refer. Can you give some examples? I think it is unfair to label a guy soft and flimsy without evidence. He only caught 6 passes. I don't think he saw that much time on the field in 3 WR sets. 4 WR sets are not a staple in the offense. I don't think there is a big enough sample size to label the guy soft and flimsy.

                            How many opportunities did he get to use his size to his advantage when he played behind Ward, Holmes, and Washington. Why throw that criticism his way when 1 he was a rookie WR and not expect to contribute much and 2 he was way down on the depth chart behind some pretty good players. When and if he gets more opportunities, then we can make a proper assessment of Sweed.

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                            • NorthCoast
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                              • Sep 2008
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                              #15
                              Re: Steelers receiver finding his Sweed spot early in camp

                              Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                              Originally posted by flippy
                              I wanna see if Sweed is physical.

                              His softness last year reminded me of Ricardo Cocolough.

                              Guy has very evident skills and talent.

                              But he needs to translate that into being a tough football player.

                              Ricardo couldn't unfortunately.

                              Even though he flashed great athleticism.

                              There's a lot of great athletes that just arent tough enough to play in the NFL.

                              That's the concern I have with Sweed.

                              His talent is obviously there.
                              How many times did you see Sweed display softness? What in your eyes made him soft and not tough? I know that he showed the willingness to block. Remember the Ravens game? He laid someone out after Miller made a catch.

                              I would understand the criticism of him not catching the ball. I don't understand the criticism of him being soft or compared to Ricardo.
                              Agree with flippy on this. The few opportunities he had in traffic, Sweed did not move very strong to the ball. The guy is 6-4, 220 lbs, he should be able to out-muscle many of the DBs in the league. I hope we see more fight in him this season...then we can chalk up last year to rookie jitters.

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