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  • stlrz d
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 9244

    A physical day at the office



    In terms of what happened on the field, the offense came back and acquitted itself better than it had during Saturday’s afternoon session. Limas Sweed made a couple of nice catches – one in which he out-fought Keenan Lewis for a ball hanging in the air and another in which he made a diving catch along the sideline. Brandon Williams also made a diving catch along the sideline that appeared to be out of bounds, but referee/replay official/commissioner Tomlin ruled it inbounds.
    [url="http://news.steelers.com/article/106715/"]http://news.steelers.com/article/106715/[/url]
  • mshifko
    Starter
    • May 2008
    • 686

    #2
    Re: A physical day at the office

    i really think that limas is going to be our #3 guy...i see mcdonald being our #4 and williams being our #5/return man...
    "The standard is the standard" Mike Tomlin

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    • aggiebones
      Pro Bowler
      • Jan 2009
      • 1427

      #3
      Re: A physical day at the office

      Well he's bigger and faster than Shawn and been in our system a year.
      Wallace may be faster, but that's it. Sweed has a big year ahead of him.

      Basically this should be easy for him...but I have a feeling he's gonna struggle taking this job. We'll see. He has ZERO reasons why he doesn't win.

      Either way, we'll see plenty of Shawn this season due to injuries, hopefully small ones or needs for a WR4. He'll fit that role well and may steal the WR3 spot periodically while others figure things out on the bench.

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      • RuthlessBurgher
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 33208

        #4
        Re: A physical day at the office

        Originally posted by mshifko
        i really think that limas is going to be our #3 guy...i see mcdonald being our #4 and williams being our #5/return man...
        I agree about Sweed taking the #3 job and McDonald being the veteran #4. I would be shocked if Brandon Williams was kept as the #5 WR to return kicks, though. He was a quality return guy back in his Wisconsin days, but he hasn't been electrifying in the pros (38 kicks returned for 888 yards and a 23.4 average and 35 punts returned for 245 yards and a 7.0 average for the Niners and Rams). If they kept Williams, then Mike Wallace would have to make the roster as a 6th WR, which is a rare occurance. Although we have cut 4th round WR's in their rookie camps before (Danny Farmer and Fred Gibson), I don't see them cutting a 3rd round WR. I'll take Wallace as the #5 WR and return man over Williams.
        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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        • flippy
          Legend
          • Dec 2008
          • 17088

          #5
          Re: A physical day at the office

          I want Limas to take the #1 WR spot.

          If he does things to deserve to be #3, he's going to be Ben's #1 go to guy real quick.
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          • RuthlessBurgher
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 33208

            #6
            Re: A physical day at the office

            Originally posted by flippy
            I want Limas to take the #1 WR spot.

            If he does things to deserve to be #3, he's going to be Ben's #1 go to guy real quick.
            Over a couple of Super Bowl MVP's?

            When Limas is named MVP of Super XLIV, then we can talk about him taking over the #1 WR spot.
            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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            • flippy
              Legend
              • Dec 2008
              • 17088

              #7
              Re: A physical day at the office

              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
              Originally posted by flippy
              I want Limas to take the #1 WR spot.

              If he does things to deserve to be #3, he's going to be Ben's #1 go to guy real quick.
              Over a couple of Super Bowl MVP's?

              When Limas is named MVP of Super XLIV, then we can talk about him taking over the #1 WR spot.
              nice prediction for SB MVP.
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              • papillon
                Legend
                • Mar 2008
                • 11340

                #8
                Re: A physical day at the office

                I don't know if he'll be #1 or #2, but, in the very near future Holmes and Sweed are going to be #1 and #2. Ward can't play forever and I have to think his days as an active Steeler are ending this season or next.

                Pappy
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                The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                • RuthlessBurgher
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 33208

                  #9
                  Re: A physical day at the office

                  Originally posted by papillon
                  I don't know if he'll be #1 or #2, but, in the very near future Holmes and Sweed are going to be #1 and #2. Ward can't play forever and I have to think his days as an active Steeler are ending this season or next.

                  Pappy
                  Hines just signed a 4 year, $22.1 million extension this April. Limas may eventually pass him to be a starter, but Hines should still be effective out of the slot. By no means do I see his days as an active Steeler ending this season or next.
                  Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                  Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                  We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                  We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                  • proudpittsburgher
                    Pro Bowler
                    • May 2008
                    • 2377

                    #10
                    Re: A physical day at the office

                    Originally posted by stlrz d


                    In terms of what happened on the field, the offense came back and acquitted itself better than it had during Saturday’s afternoon session. Limas Sweed made a couple of nice catches – one in which he out-fought Keenan Lewis for a ball hanging in the air and another in which he made a diving catch along the sideline. Brandon Williams also made a diving catch along the sideline that appeared to be out of bounds, but referee/replay official/commissioner Tomlin ruled it inbounds.
                    [url="http://news.steelers.com/article/106715/"]http://news.steelers.com/article/106715/[/url]
                    I'm glad you provided the quote about what happened in that picture, otherwise I would have to assume that was the ball bouncing back out of his hands after a drop.
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                    • papillon
                      Legend
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 11340

                      #11
                      Re: A physical day at the office

                      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                      Originally posted by papillon
                      I don't know if he'll be #1 or #2, but, in the very near future Holmes and Sweed are going to be #1 and #2. Ward can't play forever and I have to think his days as an active Steeler are ending this season or next.

                      Pappy
                      Hines just signed a 4 year, $22.1 million extension this April. Limas may eventually pass him to be a starter, but Hines should still be effective out of the slot. By no means do I see his days as an active Steeler ending this season or next.
                      I just don't see him holding off the young bucks, maybe next year, but the year after will be tough. He takes a beating during the season and he's as tough as they come, but, at some point he'll drop off precipitously. I see it sooner than later. They'll be looking to save some cap space for a young player (Holmes, Woodley, Sweed, Timmons) and he may be a casualty of that process as well.

                      The beauty of the Steelers is that, by and large, they try to have rookies learn before inserting them into the lineup to be productive. The downside is that a rookie contract seems to go by quickly, since, they don't play much in years 1 and 2 and next thing you know it's time to sign the next deal and the second deal is typically the big dog.

                      There will be a lot of current rooks or 2nd year guys coming due in two or three years. The Steelers are going to need cap space.

                      Pappy
                      sigpic

                      The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                      1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                      3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                      3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                      4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                      5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                      7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                      "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                      • RuthlessBurgher
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 33208

                        #12
                        Re: A physical day at the office

                        Originally posted by papillon
                        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                        Originally posted by papillon
                        I don't know if he'll be #1 or #2, but, in the very near future Holmes and Sweed are going to be #1 and #2. Ward can't play forever and I have to think his days as an active Steeler are ending this season or next.

                        Pappy
                        Hines just signed a 4 year, $22.1 million extension this April. Limas may eventually pass him to be a starter, but Hines should still be effective out of the slot. By no means do I see his days as an active Steeler ending this season or next.
                        I just don't see him holding off the young bucks, maybe next year, but the year after will be tough. He takes a beating during the season and he's as tough as they come, but, at some point he'll drop off precipitously. I see it sooner than later. They'll be looking to save some cap space for a young player (Holmes, Woodley, Sweed, Timmons) and he may be a casualty of that process as well.

                        The beauty of the Steelers is that, by and large, they try to have rookies learn before inserting them into the lineup to be productive. The downside is that a rookie contract seems to go by quickly, since, they don't play much in years 1 and 2 and next thing you know it's time to sign the next deal and the second deal is typically the big dog.

                        There will be a lot of current rooks or 2nd year guys coming due in two or three years. The Steelers are going to need cap space.

                        Pappy
                        If the team was thinking like that, they would not have signed Hines to the extension. They realized that by giving him an extra day off of practice during the week, plus excusing him from morning practices whenever they have two-a-days at camp kept him fresh. He had more catches and yards last season than any year since 2003. Plus he was still physical enough to break a first-round-draft-pick's jaw, and subsequently got a new rule named after him. Hines is more than a stats guy, though. He's a heart-and-soul guy. Those types of guys aren't typically cap casualties. I think Hines will be here until he decides that it is time to hang 'em up (it is difficult to predict when that might be).
                        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                        • NorthCoast
                          Legend
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 26636

                          #13
                          Re: A physical day at the office

                          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                          Originally posted by papillon
                          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                          Originally posted by papillon
                          I don't know if he'll be #1 or #2, but, in the very near future Holmes and Sweed are going to be #1 and #2. Ward can't play forever and I have to think his days as an active Steeler are ending this season or next.

                          Pappy
                          Hines just signed a 4 year, $22.1 million extension this April. Limas may eventually pass him to be a starter, but Hines should still be effective out of the slot. By no means do I see his days as an active Steeler ending this season or next.
                          I just don't see him holding off the young bucks, maybe next year, but the year after will be tough. He takes a beating during the season and he's as tough as they come, but, at some point he'll drop off precipitously. I see it sooner than later. They'll be looking to save some cap space for a young player (Holmes, Woodley, Sweed, Timmons) and he may be a casualty of that process as well.

                          The beauty of the Steelers is that, by and large, they try to have rookies learn before inserting them into the lineup to be productive. The downside is that a rookie contract seems to go by quickly, since, they don't play much in years 1 and 2 and next thing you know it's time to sign the next deal and the second deal is typically the big dog.

                          There will be a lot of current rooks or 2nd year guys coming due in two or three years. The Steelers are going to need cap space.

                          Pappy
                          If the team was thinking like that, they would not have signed Hines to the extension. They realized that by giving him an extra day off of practice during the week, plus excusing him from morning practices whenever they have two-a-days at camp kept him fresh. He had more catches and yards last season than any year since 2003. Plus he was still physical enough to break a first-round-draft-pick's jaw, and subsequently got a new rule named after him. Hines is more than a stats guy, though. He's a heart-and-soul guy. Those types of guys aren't typically cap casualties. I think Hines will be here until he decides that it is time to hang 'em up (it is difficult to predict when that might be).
                          Agree RB. Hines may be out a few games this season, but the coaching staff has really adjusted how he is allowed to practice to make up for gameday beating he typically takes. I think he will be at least 'serviceable' for another 3 yrs.

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                          • feltdizz
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 27531

                            #14
                            Re: A physical day at the office

                            Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                            Originally posted by mshifko
                            i really think that limas is going to be our #3 guy...i see mcdonald being our #4 and williams being our #5/return man...
                            I agree about Sweed taking the #3 job and McDonald being the veteran #4. I would be shocked if Brandon Williams was kept as the #5 WR to return kicks, though. He was a quality return guy back in his Wisconsin days, but he hasn't been electrifying in the pros (38 kicks returned for 888 yards and a 23.4 average and 35 punts returned for 245 yards and a 7.0 average for the Niners and Rams). If they kept Williams, then Mike Wallace would have to make the roster as a 6th WR, which is a rare occurance. Although we have cut 4th round WR's in their rookie camps before (Danny Farmer and Fred Gibson), I don't see them cutting a 3rd round WR. I'll take Wallace as the #5 WR and return man over Williams.
                            I would like to think Williams will be more productive on a Steeler return team then on the Niners or the Rams...
                            Steelers 27
                            Rats 16

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                            • feltdizz
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 27531

                              #15
                              Re: A physical day at the office

                              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                              Originally posted by papillon
                              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                              Originally posted by papillon
                              I don't know if he'll be #1 or #2, but, in the very near future Holmes and Sweed are going to be #1 and #2. Ward can't play forever and I have to think his days as an active Steeler are ending this season or next.

                              Pappy
                              Hines just signed a 4 year, $22.1 million extension this April. Limas may eventually pass him to be a starter, but Hines should still be effective out of the slot. By no means do I see his days as an active Steeler ending this season or next.
                              I just don't see him holding off the young bucks, maybe next year, but the year after will be tough. He takes a beating during the season and he's as tough as they come, but, at some point he'll drop off precipitously. I see it sooner than later. They'll be looking to save some cap space for a young player (Holmes, Woodley, Sweed, Timmons) and he may be a casualty of that process as well.

                              The beauty of the Steelers is that, by and large, they try to have rookies learn before inserting them into the lineup to be productive. The downside is that a rookie contract seems to go by quickly, since, they don't play much in years 1 and 2 and next thing you know it's time to sign the next deal and the second deal is typically the big dog.

                              There will be a lot of current rooks or 2nd year guys coming due in two or three years. The Steelers are going to need cap space.

                              Pappy
                              If the team was thinking like that, they would not have signed Hines to the extension. They realized that by giving him an extra day off of practice during the week, plus excusing him from morning practices whenever they have two-a-days at camp kept him fresh. He had more catches and yards last season than any year since 2003. Plus he was still physical enough to break a first-round-draft-pick's jaw, and subsequently got a new rule named after him. Hines is more than a stats guy, though. He's a heart-and-soul guy. Those types of guys aren't typically cap casualties. I think Hines will be here until he decides that it is time to hang 'em up (it is difficult to predict when that might be).
                              I agree.... Hines is the type of WR who knows how to play within his physical limitations.. he doesn't rely on speed so he is good for another 4 years(his 4th year will be like Bettis' last with us)

                              he also is like Larry Bird.... Bird was a dirty a$$ player on the court. He grabbed, pulled, held, tripped etc.. anything to get open because he wasn't quick but he only needed an inch to shoot his jumper..

                              Hines is the same way, he will grab facemask, hold, trip and knock you jaw off if you aren't looking... some say it's cheating but if it isn't called???
                              Steelers 27
                              Rats 16

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