Is Big Ben a drama queen?

[SteelCzar76]

Re: Is Big Ben a drama queen?

I'd say he could be considered a "Drama Queen" in light of all the lying, phantom injuries (ribs,toes etc) and his "putting extra's" on the grimacing in pain for the cameras after throwing picks and incompletions.

But much of this "Monster" can also be attributed to some of the fan base and his coaches as well,.. in terms of them always coddling him and making some type of excuse for the periods during the season in which he plays horribly.

You know like,..."Oh, he was just a rookie!", "It was the bike accident !","Oh, it's his shoulder !" or "Uuuh,.. it's the elbow or his bruised psyche,...that's why he plays poorly against better teams and decently against the bottom feeders !"

But as mentioned,...it's sometimes just the nature of the type of personality (arrogance) that it takes for some to play the position. (QB) Similar to the type of personalities one often sees in Corners and Receivers.

This is not true of all players at these positions,..especially not most of the greats,...but if one has ever played football,....you are very familiar the "excuses,excuses", "Ego trip" type of cats. lol

Bottom line for me though is,..i hope that he (Ben) can continue to grow and play with focus this season. Not because i'm that big of a supporter,....but at the end of the day,..we have NO other viable options at Qb on the roster.(IMO)

Don't forget about the emergency appendectomy.

Yep, he's a bigger drama queen than Amaya from Real World Hawaii.

I understand your perspective here Jigga. But on the flip side of that coin,...nobody put a pistol to his head and said,.."You know what,..i feel as though it would be a good look for you to disregard any sound and rational advise from coaches, friends, family and teammates,...and ride out on a Busa on very poor quality, and mountainous western PA infrastructure without any protective gear or helmet of any kind. I'm talkin not even wrestling head gear, or a babooshka"

Babooshka's are so 1813 Northern European immigrant. I'd go with a traditional Swiss
bonnet, which not only represents Bens ancestry, but highlights the combustion
chamber of any Suzuki motorcycle screeching towards a large Chrysler/Fiat.

[SteelCzar76]

Re: Is Big Ben a drama queen?

"I'd say he could be considered a "Drama Queen" in light of all the lying, phantom injuries (ribs,toes etc) and his "putting extra's" on the grimacing in pain for the cameras after throwing picks and incompletions."


What lying about 'phantom' injuries. I guarantee you he was in REAL pain, not phantom. My previous statement about not being able to distinguish between certain injuries holds here. He may not have known what the injury was exactly, but the pain was there. A broken bone needs more attention to heal but quite often doesn't hurt as much as a bad contusion. As for the camera enhanced problems, I think some are remembering their own irritation after such plays and they are actually enhancing the problem. Dude takes an awful beating all season long, let's not trivialize it. Other guys get hit while hitting. Ben and Hines take alot of punishment to make our offense work. If you don't like him hanging his head or shaking his hand after a gaff, then look away. Its insignificant. These things get blown out of proportion.

I can't believe he got himself into that appendectomy problem. Wonder if he got fined for that?

Well said Aggie. But i still feel as though he goes over the top in terms of the onfield displays of discomfort. Especially in light of the fact that when i most often witness them is after he has,..(as i mentioned before) thrown a pick, incompletion or loses a fumble.

And as far as trivializing the "beating" that he takes,....i'm just of the mindset that i do not applaud heroics against a "monster" that the supposed hero himself has created.

Ie: If Ben was more cerebral,.more of a film rat,...more of a hardworking practice guy whom spends his offseasons actually trying to improve his game as opposed to coasting relying upon his athleticism, size, coach lebeau and the defense,.....he would understand the concept of timing routes and actually executing plays as they are drawn up and henceforth be able to dissect opposing defenses as well as getting rid of the football. This would go a long way towards him "taking less of a beating". IMO

[feltdizz]

Re: Is Big Ben a drama queen?

No, he's not. If you watch the games and see the type of abuse Ben takes (almost on every friggin snap) I don't think you'd believe the injuries and the wincing were faked.

And I'm trying to understand how a motorcycle accident and a rape accusation makes someone a drama queen?

well the motorcycle accident could have been avoided.... way too many warnings and he ignored all of them. the rape accusation is unfortunate as well....

Not saying he wanted any of these things to happen but man... I'm tired of the off field Ben drama popping up right after I brag about how nothing can stop us from repeating except an unfortunate incident...

[stlrz d]

Re: Is Big Ben a drama queen?

Then don't brag.

[rpmpit]

Re: Is Big Ben a drama queen?

No, he's not. If you watch the games and see the type of abuse Ben takes (almost on every friggin snap) I don't think you'd believe the injuries and the wincing were faked.

And I'm trying to understand how a motorcycle accident and a rape accusation makes someone a drama queen?

well the motorcycle accident could have been avoided.... way too many warnings and he ignored all of them. the rape accusation is unfortunate as well....

Not saying he wanted any of these things to happen but man... I'm tired of the off field Ben drama popping up right after I brag about how nothing can stop us from repeating except an unfortunate incident...

Ok, so maybe you shouldn't have used the term "drama queen". Bottom line is chit happens. To Super Bowl qbs as well as you and me. Seems like Ben has been blessed with talent, opportunity and success. But it also seems like there's a higher power that feels he needs to be tested once in a while. I also believe that God doesn't present us with challenges without also giving us the strength to overcome them. Like the accident, I think Ben comes out of this experience a smarter, stronger person and hopefully the next big challenge he's presented with happens at Super Bowl XLIV.

[feltdizz]

Re: Is Big Ben a drama queen?

No, he's not. If you watch the games and see the type of abuse Ben takes (almost on every friggin snap) I don't think you'd believe the injuries and the wincing were faked.

And I'm trying to understand how a motorcycle accident and a rape accusation makes someone a drama queen?

well the motorcycle accident could have been avoided.... way too many warnings and he ignored all of them. the rape accusation is unfortunate as well....

Not saying he wanted any of these things to happen but man... I'm tired of the off field Ben drama popping up right after I brag about how nothing can stop us from repeating except an unfortunate incident...

Ok, so maybe you shouldn't have used the term "drama queen". Bottom line is chit happens. To Super Bowl qbs as well as you and me. Seems like Ben has been blessed with talent, opportunity and success. But it also seems like there's a higher power that feels he needs to be tested once in a while. I also believe that God doesn't present us with challenges without also giving us the strength to overcome them. Like the accident, I think Ben comes out of this experience a smarter, stronger person and hopefully the next big challenge he's presented with happens at Super Bowl XLIV.

I agree with God giving us challenges... but I can't say every challenge is presented by God... I have put myself in some challenging situations and there is a voice we all have that says "is this really right?" and sometimes we indeed ignore it.

Now as far as the term Drama Queen.. it has been used many times before so that is why I used it for this title.. Whatever the term one uses.. the question is a legit one...

chit happens...... but when it happens to our best player more then once or twice the question will keep arising..

[rpmpit]

Re: Is Big Ben a drama queen?

No, he's not. If you watch the games and see the type of abuse Ben takes (almost on every friggin snap) I don't think you'd believe the injuries and the wincing were faked.

And I'm trying to understand how a motorcycle accident and a rape accusation makes someone a drama queen?

well the motorcycle accident could have been avoided.... way too many warnings and he ignored all of them. the rape accusation is unfortunate as well....

Not saying he wanted any of these things to happen but man... I'm tired of the off field Ben drama popping up right after I brag about how nothing can stop us from repeating except an unfortunate incident...

Ok, so maybe you shouldn't have used the term "drama queen". Bottom line is chit happens. To Super Bowl qbs as well as you and me. Seems like Ben has been blessed with talent, opportunity and success. But it also seems like there's a higher power that feels he needs to be tested once in a while. I also believe that God doesn't present us with challenges without also giving us the strength to overcome them. Like the accident, I think Ben comes out of this experience a smarter, stronger person and hopefully the next big challenge he's presented with happens at Super Bowl XLIV.

I agree with God giving us challenges... but I can't say every challenge is presented by God... I have put myself in some challenging situations and there is a voice we all have that says "is this really right?" and sometimes we indeed ignore it.

Now as far as the term Drama Queen.. it has been used many times before so that is why I used it for this title.. Whatever the term one uses.. the question is a legit one...

chit happens...... but when it happens to our best player more then once or twice the question will keep arising..

I think we're both right, dizz. God presents us with the challenge, but he also gives us the freedom to choose between right and wrong. And yes, Ben made a terrible choice not wearing his helment that day. But as far as this current situation, we don't even know if Ben knew this woman. So its hard to say if he did anything wrong or put himself in a bad situation.

[feltdizz]

Re: Is Big Ben a drama queen?

Then don't brag.

well....

[feltdizz]

Re: Is Big Ben a drama queen?

I think we're both right, dizz. God presents us with the challenge, but he also gives us the freedom to choose between right and wrong. And yes, Ben made a terrible choice not wearing his helment that day. But as far as this current situation, we don't even know if Ben knew this woman. So its hard to say if he did anything wrong or put himself in a bad situation.

I think it has been established that they had sex.

this isn't Pretty Woman though... Ben had sex with an employee of a hotel where the golf tourney was going on.... IN VEGAS!!!

anytime a rich guy goes to Vegas and he has sex with an employee it really opens an ugly door IMO....

sleeping with the "staff" is no different then Jerome Bettis going to his old neighborhood to party with a bunch of jewelry on... it could be a fun night out or it can turn into an ugly situation.

I'm one who believes when your money changes you should change a few things as well.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Is Big Ben a drama queen?

I think we're both right, dizz. God presents us with the challenge, but he also gives us the freedom to choose between right and wrong. And yes, Ben made a terrible choice not wearing his helment that day. But as far as this current situation, we don't even know if Ben knew this woman. So its hard to say if he did anything wrong or put himself in a bad situation.

I think it has been established that they had sex.

this isn't Pretty Woman though... Ben had sex with an employee of a hotel where the golf tourney was going on.... IN VEGAS!!!

anytime a rich guy goes to Vegas and he has sex with an employee it really opens an ugly door IMO....

sleeping with the "staff" is no different then Jerome Bettis going to his old neighborhood to party with a bunch of jewelry on... it could be a fun night out or it can turn into an ugly situation.

I'm one who believes when your money changes you should change a few things as well.

Lake Tahoe is roughly 450 miles away from Las Vegas, roughly the same distance as it is to go from Pittsburgh to Chicago. Just sayin'.

[Jigawatts]

Re: Is Big Ben a drama queen?

I think it has been established that they had sex.

How so? Ben never admitted it during his statement or at any other time. I'm assuming
that if they did bump uglies, the the reason for not admitting, other than embarrassment,
is because any statement that he may make might jeopardize his defense.

[rpmpit]

Re: Is Big Ben a drama queen?

I think it has been established that they had sex.

How so? Ben never admitted it during his statement or at any other time. I'm assuming
that if they did bump uglies, the the reason for not admitting, other than embarrassment,
is because any statement that he may make might jeopardize his defense.

Yeah, if they did mention that the two had sex, I totally missed it.

[feltdizz]

Re: Is Big Ben a drama queen?

I think it has been established that they had sex.

How so? Ben never admitted it during his statement or at any other time. I'm assuming
that if they did bump uglies, the the reason for not admitting, other than embarrassment,
is because any statement that he may make might jeopardize his defense.

Yeah, if they did mention that the two had sex, I totally missed it.

If you didn't have sex with a woman and she accused you of rape... would you let that fact go unsaid in a press conference?

Ben's lawyer said he never forced himself on a woman in his life..

but anyway... even if Lake Tahoe is in China.. if the chick works for the company sponsoring the trip don't do it... go to a washy washy...

[feltdizz]

Re: Is Big Ben a drama queen?

I think we're both right, dizz. God presents us with the challenge, but he also gives us the freedom to choose between right and wrong. And yes, Ben made a terrible choice not wearing his helment that day. But as far as this current situation, we don't even know if Ben knew this woman. So its hard to say if he did anything wrong or put himself in a bad situation.

I think it has been established that they had sex.

this isn't Pretty Woman though... Ben had sex with an employee of a hotel where the golf tourney was going on.... IN VEGAS!!!

anytime a rich guy goes to Vegas and he has sex with an employee it really opens an ugly door IMO....

sleeping with the "staff" is no different then Jerome Bettis going to his old neighborhood to party with a bunch of jewelry on... it could be a fun night out or it can turn into an ugly situation.

I'm one who believes when your money changes you should change a few things as well.

Lake Tahoe is roughly 450 miles away from Las Vegas, roughly the same distance as it is to go from Pittsburgh to Chicago. Just sayin'.

could have been held in Pittsburgh... you don't have sex with the chick who works for the company who sponsors the event.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Is Big Ben a drama queen?

I think we're both right, dizz. God presents us with the challenge, but he also gives us the freedom to choose between right and wrong. And yes, Ben made a terrible choice not wearing his helment that day. But as far as this current situation, we don't even know if Ben knew this woman. So its hard to say if he did anything wrong or put himself in a bad situation.

I think it has been established that they had sex.

this isn't Pretty Woman though... Ben had sex with an employee of a hotel where the golf tourney was going on.... IN VEGAS!!!

anytime a rich guy goes to Vegas and he has sex with an employee it really opens an ugly door IMO....

sleeping with the "staff" is no different then Jerome Bettis going to his old neighborhood to party with a bunch of jewelry on... it could be a fun night out or it can turn into an ugly situation.

I'm one who believes when your money changes you should change a few things as well.

Lake Tahoe is roughly 450 miles away from Las Vegas, roughly the same distance as it is to go from Pittsburgh to Chicago. Just sayin'.

could have been held in Pittsburgh... you don't have sex with the chick who works for the company who sponsors the event.

It was the American Century Celebrity Golf Championship. She worked for Harrah's, which is the hotel where Ben stayed while in Lake Tahoe for the tournament, not American Century Investments, who sponsored the event.