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  • Shawn
    Legend
    • Mar 2008
    • 15131

    #31
    Re: Gary Russell...

    Originally posted by steelblood
    Originally posted by ShawnMedGuy
    Originally posted by steelblood
    Originally posted by ShawnMedGuy

    3) Parker...crazy blazing speed and nothing else. Subpar vision, almost zero power running ability, outruns his blockers, lacks patience, doesn't make teams respect the middle, can't move the chains, and hands of freakin stone. The guy is a good change up back. He is a guy you put in the game when a D is tired. A pure home run hitter.
    While I agree with much of this sentiment, I feel it is an unfair oversimplification. If it were true, you could replace Parker with any similarly sized division I sprinter and get the same results. Parker does a little more than pure speed. He has very nice stop and start moves and can change gears well to avoid tacklers. He has good change of direction ability. He also has some open field elusiveness. He's also very durable and for a smaller back.
    Pretty much everything you described revolves around speed. Honestly his lateral movement is very average. He can be open field elusive mainly because he is so dayum fast. The comment about the sprinter doesn't really make sense because I didn't say he had no ability to run the ball. Obviously, he is a running back. But, his lack of natural running back skill is hidden by his freakish speed.
    The comment about the sprinter applies. You said "crazy blazing speed and nothing else." It was an oversimplification. Again, I generally agree with you. Further, I agree his lateral agility isn't all that great.

    All I'm saying is there is a lot to the running phase of the game. Some of it Parker does well and it isn't about pure speed. For example, other backs have survived in this league by being shifty (shifting gears) and not necessarily fast. This is a skill that Parker has which some fast runners don't.
    I think you took me too literal. Obviously, I was being overdramatic for effect. He certainly has RB skills. He just doesn't have pro bowl RB skills. He has sub average RB skills....but he is not absent of rb skills.
    Trolls are people too.

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    • Ozey74
      Pro Bowler
      • May 2008
      • 2091

      #32
      Re: Gary Russell...

      Originally posted by ShawnMedGuy
      Originally posted by steelblood
      Originally posted by ShawnMedGuy
      Originally posted by steelblood
      Originally posted by ShawnMedGuy

      3) Parker...crazy blazing speed and nothing else. Subpar vision, almost zero power running ability, outruns his blockers, lacks patience, doesn't make teams respect the middle, can't move the chains, and hands of freakin stone. The guy is a good change up back. He is a guy you put in the game when a D is tired. A pure home run hitter.
      While I agree with much of this sentiment, I feel it is an unfair oversimplification. If it were true, you could replace Parker with any similarly sized division I sprinter and get the same results. Parker does a little more than pure speed. He has very nice stop and start moves and can change gears well to avoid tacklers. He has good change of direction ability. He also has some open field elusiveness. He's also very durable and for a smaller back.
      Pretty much everything you described revolves around speed. Honestly his lateral movement is very average. He can be open field elusive mainly because he is so dayum fast. The comment about the sprinter doesn't really make sense because I didn't say he had no ability to run the ball. Obviously, he is a running back. But, his lack of natural running back skill is hidden by his freakish speed.
      The comment about the sprinter applies. You said "crazy blazing speed and nothing else." It was an oversimplification. Again, I generally agree with you. Further, I agree his lateral agility isn't all that great.

      All I'm saying is there is a lot to the running phase of the game. Some of it Parker does well and it isn't about pure speed. For example, other backs have survived in this league by being shifty (shifting gears) and not necessarily fast. This is a skill that Parker has which some fast runners don't.
      I think you took me too literal. Obviously, I was being overdramatic for effect. He certainly has RB skills. He just doesn't have pro bowl RB skills. He has sub average RB skills....but he is not absent of rb skills.

      FWP can't be expected to carry the load year in & year out. I think is his better used when he has some help. I think FWP thinks so also. He's was happy when Mendenhall was drafted.....
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      • steelblood
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 4166

        #33
        Re: Gary Russell...

        Originally posted by ShawnMedGuy
        Originally posted by steelblood
        Originally posted by ShawnMedGuy
        Originally posted by steelblood
        Originally posted by ShawnMedGuy

        3) Parker...crazy blazing speed and nothing else. Subpar vision, almost zero power running ability, outruns his blockers, lacks patience, doesn't make teams respect the middle, can't move the chains, and hands of freakin stone. The guy is a good change up back. He is a guy you put in the game when a D is tired. A pure home run hitter.
        While I agree with much of this sentiment, I feel it is an unfair oversimplification. If it were true, you could replace Parker with any similarly sized division I sprinter and get the same results. Parker does a little more than pure speed. He has very nice stop and start moves and can change gears well to avoid tacklers. He has good change of direction ability. He also has some open field elusiveness. He's also very durable and for a smaller back.
        Pretty much everything you described revolves around speed. Honestly his lateral movement is very average. He can be open field elusive mainly because he is so dayum fast. The comment about the sprinter doesn't really make sense because I didn't say he had no ability to run the ball. Obviously, he is a running back. But, his lack of natural running back skill is hidden by his freakish speed.
        The comment about the sprinter applies. You said "crazy blazing speed and nothing else." It was an oversimplification. Again, I generally agree with you. Further, I agree his lateral agility isn't all that great.

        All I'm saying is there is a lot to the running phase of the game. Some of it Parker does well and it isn't about pure speed. For example, other backs have survived in this league by being shifty (shifting gears) and not necessarily fast. This is a skill that Parker has which some fast runners don't.
        I think you took me too literal. Obviously, I was being overdramatic for effect. He certainly has RB skills. He just doesn't have pro bowl RB skills. He has sub average RB skills....but he is not absent of rb skills.
        From now on, please leave being "overdramatic for effect" to my daughter. She is much better at it than you.
        Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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        • Shawn
          Legend
          • Mar 2008
          • 15131

          #34
          Re: Gary Russell...

          While I agree with much of this sentiment, I feel it is an unfair oversimplification. If it were true, you could replace Parker with any similarly sized division I sprinter and get the same results. Parker does a little more than pure speed. He has very nice stop and start moves and can change gears well to avoid tacklers. He has good change of direction ability. He also has some open field elusiveness. He's also very durable and for a smaller back.[/quote]

          Pretty much everything you described revolves around speed. Honestly his lateral movement is very average. He can be open field elusive mainly because he is so dayum fast. The comment about the sprinter doesn't really make sense because I didn't say he had no ability to run the ball. Obviously, he is a running back. But, his lack of natural running back skill is hidden by his freakish speed.[/quote]

          The comment about the sprinter applies. You said "crazy blazing speed and nothing else." It was an oversimplification. Again, I generally agree with you. Further, I agree his lateral agility isn't all that great.

          All I'm saying is there is a lot to the running phase of the game. Some of it Parker does well and it isn't about pure speed. For example, other backs have survived in this league by being shifty (shifting gears) and not necessarily fast. This is a skill that Parker has which some fast runners don't.[/quote]

          I think you took me too literal. Obviously, I was being overdramatic for effect. He certainly has RB skills. He just doesn't have pro bowl RB skills. He has sub average RB skills....but he is not absent of rb skills.[/quote]

          From now on, please leave being "overdramatic for effect" to my daughter. She is much better at it than you. [/quote]

          STFU you POS!!!! You disagree with me??? Don't you know who I am???

          Wait...that was a bit much.
          Trolls are people too.

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          • eniparadoxgma
            Pro Bowler
            • May 2008
            • 2193

            #35
            Re: Gary Russell...

            Looking at the post counts of those involved I have come to 2 conclusions:

            1. SMG is right.

            2. steelblood is in dire need of a super atomic wedgie.

            Carry on, folks.
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            • Shawn
              Legend
              • Mar 2008
              • 15131

              #36
              Re: Gary Russell...

              Originally posted by eniparadoxgma
              Looking at the post counts of those involved I have come to 2 conclusions:

              1. SMG is right.

              2. steelblood is in dire need of a super atomic wedgie.

              Carry on, folks.


              Exactly my thinking.
              Trolls are people too.

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              • Slapstick
                Rookie
                • May 2008
                • 0

                #37
                Re: Gary Russell...

                Parker is definitely has "below average" skills...

                Any RB would put up 1200 yards behind the Steelers stellar offensive line...
                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 3937

                  #38
                  Re: Gary Russell...

                  Some of you are just too tough on this OL. There were better OL in the league last year but maybe everything isn't on the OL. Just look at some of these number. You wouldn't think the last line about sacks is true with some of these. There are other parts of the equation to the sack numbers. Even though we watched the games and thought they were so horrible at run blocking, those numbers look good too!

                  AFC Offensive Ranking
                  Steelers
                  Totals
                  10th PLAYS FROM SCRIMMAGE
                  1st TIME OF POSESSION
                  6th POINTS PER GAME
                  8th TOTAL OFFENSE
                  8th FIRST DOWNS PER GAME
                  3rd THIRD DOWN %

                  Passing
                  9th YARDS PER GAME
                  2nd AVERAGE YARDS PER PLAY
                  2nd FIRST DOWN PERCENTAGE
                  2nd TD
                  5th COMPLETION PERCENTAGE
                  16th ATTEMPTS PER GAME

                  Rushing
                  3rd ATTEMPTS PER GAME
                  2nd YARDS PER GAME
                  4th YARDS PER CARRY

                  SACKS GIVEN UP - 3RD WORST


                  What do you see?
                  I see a ball control offense that is very good at running the ball and taking time off the clock. Very efficient on 3rd downs. Based on the passing numbers of ATTEMPS PER GAME/AVG YARDS PER PLAY/FIRST DOWN %/TDS...When the team does pass it is a vertical passing offense. Designed for down the field completions based on FIRST DOWN %. It seems to me that some of the sacks come from offensive design. Deeper paterns take more time & deeper drops. Add in the fact Ben is mobile and tries to buy time with his legs...The sack number isn't a total reflection of the OL play. The OL could use some improvement from 2007...But I'm not putting all the blame on them.

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                  • Shawn
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 15131

                    #39
                    Re: Gary Russell...

                    Originally posted by Slapstick
                    Parker is definitely has "below average" skills...

                    Any RB would put up 1200 yards behind the Steelers stellar offensive line...
                    Pffft.
                    Trolls are people too.

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