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  • fordfixer
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    • May 2008
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    NFL scouts, rank their top 20 offensive coordinators:

    The battle between offensive and defensive
    coordinators is ongoing. Both must be
    smart, creative and adjust an entire week’s
    worth of preparation on the fly as game
    conditions dictate. As more defenses use
    shifting 3-4 alignments, offensive coordinators
    must adjust game plans accordingly.
    RealScouts, SN Today’s team of former
    NFL scouts, rank their top 20 offensive
    coordinators:

    1. Cam Cameron, Ravens. Being
    innovative is only part of the
    job. Putting your best players in a
    position to be successful is another.
    Cameron, despite his reputation
    taking a beating in his one year in
    Miami, is a great coach who took a
    Division I-AA quarterback and
    turned him into a productive NFL
    starter as a rookie.

    2. Chan Gailey, Chiefs. Gailey’s
    shotgun-heavy attack is a
    perfect philosophical fit with new
    coach Todd Haley. It also will limit
    the learning curve of QB Matt Cassel,
    who played in a similar system
    last season in New England. The
    Chiefs will attack through the air
    and could have the NFL’s most
    improved offense in ’09.

    3. Dan Henning, Dolphins. His
    system has stood the test of
    time, beginning with the Houston
    Oilers in 1972. Most recently, it has
    worked with Jake Delhomme in
    Carolina and Chad Pennington in
    Miami. Henning is an unsung hero
    of the Dolphins’ turnaround. His
    scheme calls for a lot of runs and
    high-percentage passes.

    4. Kevin Gilbride, Giants. He
    couples power runs with
    downfield passes, using big, athletic
    run blockers to wear down
    defenses and set up play-action
    passes. The Giants control the clock
    with a basic and conservative
    offense that capitalizes on defensive
    mistakes.

    5. Mike Heimerdinger, Titans. He
    runs one of the NFL’s most
    conservative offenses, but look for
    more balance this year. He will use
    RB Chris Johnson more as pass
    catcher and will take advantage of
    upgrades at wide receiver. Heimerdinger
    is a master at creating
    mismatches with formation
    changes.

    6. Scott Linehan, Lions. He likes
    the downfield passing game
    and is more likely to call passes in
    the red zone. He was the man
    behind the scenes in Minnesota
    when QB Daunte Culpepper was
    playing his best. The Lions’ problem
    is a poor offensive line and lack
    of depth at receiver.

    7. Jason Garrett, Cowboys. With
    Terrell Owens gone, look for
    more balance—a greater reliance on
    the run and passes spread around.
    Garrett, T.O.’s whipping boy last
    year, is one of the brighter young
    minds in the league. Garrett is great
    at combining elements of different
    schemes.

    8. Bob Bratkowski, Bengals.
    Bratkowski’s strength is in
    the details of the passing game.
    When all his players were healthy
    and happy, he had a juggernaut in
    Cincinnati. He now is using the run
    more often. With an improved line
    and a healthy Carson Palmer, the
    Bengals could surprise in ’09.

    9. Dirk Koetter, Jaguars. He
    would prefer a more wideopen
    offense that incorporates
    downfield passes but plays to his
    team’s strength—a power run game.
    QB David Garrard must play
    smarter, though.

    10. Mike Mularkey, Falcons. He
    is an old-school, smashmouth
    guy who loves two-tight end
    sets with fullbacks leading power
    runs. He uses the run to set up playaction
    passes downfield. Mularkey
    has ideal tools in Atlanta: A great
    back, a smart young QB and some
    versatile playmakers.

    11. Bruce Arians, Steelers. He
    likes to pass more than
    any coordinator in Steelers history
    but hasn’t abandoned the run. If
    RBs Willie Parker and Rashard
    Mendenhall remain healthy, Arians
    could use them together at
    times in ’09. Arians combines run
    sets with empty backfields and
    spread formations.


    12. Russ Grimm, Cardinals.
    With Grimm replacing
    Todd Haley, the Cardinals will get a
    heavier dose of the running game—
    a goal of coach Ken Whisenhunt
    since he first arrived two years ago.
    Still, the team’s high-powered passing
    attack will remain the dominant
    feature. Expect to see more
    no-huddle attacks and shotgun formations,
    too.

    13. Brian Schottenheimer, Jets.
    He rose through the
    ranks because of innovative ideas,
    but at the heart of his philosophy
    is a strong running game. That
    will be more evident if rookie
    Mark Sanchez wins the QB battle.
    Schottenheimer will be conservative
    but always looking for
    matchup advantages—through the
    use of motion, no huddle or gimmick
    plays.

    14. Greg Knapp, Seahawks. He
    will implement a one-cut,
    zone-running scheme in Seattle,
    setting up a conservative passing
    attack. Knapp has a proven system
    but has to overcome Seattle’s lack of
    elite weapons.

    15. Marty Mornhinweg, Eagles.
    He runs a system with
    West Coast principles and plays.
    Traditionally, it’s a 65/35 pass/run
    ratio, but the short passing game
    uses the backs, tight ends and
    receivers as a run substitute. The
    Eagles have upgraded the line and
    receiving corps, so look for them to
    rely a little less on RB Brian
    Westbrook.

    16. Joe Philbin, Packers.
    Philbin uses a lot of multiple
    formations and has been fighting
    for more balance in the offense.
    Though conservative in QB Aaron
    Rodgers’ first season as a starter,
    Philbin will open up things in ’09.
    As Rodgers matures, Philbin’s
    name will become more
    recognizable.

    17. Jeff Jagodzinski, Bucs. He
    had a nice NFL career
    developing when he left to be the
    Boston College head coach. He did
    develop Matt Ryan in college.
    Another believer in the zone-blocking
    scheme, Jagodzinski also wants
    to open up the passing game and
    get away from ex-coach Jon
    Gruden’s ball-control attack.

    18. Ron Turner, Bears. An oldschool,
    run-first guy,
    Turner will look to get more balance
    into the offense with the
    arrival of QB Jay Cutler. Turner
    will be more aggressive in the passing
    game, using Cutler’s skills and
    mobility to go downfield off playaction
    fakes.

    19. Ted Tollner, Raiders. A long
    time NFL and college
    coach, Tollner has been brought
    into the fold to improve the Raiders’
    running game and make sure the
    team maximizes Darren McFadden.
    Tollner also is a former QB
    coach who could be instrumental in
    the development of JaMarcus
    Russell.

    20. Kyle Shanahan, Texans.
    Shanahan, 29, has done a
    good job of getting the talent to
    work together. He is the son of former
    Broncos coach Mike Shanahan
    and has been around the game for a
    long time, but line coach Alex Gibbs
    gets the credit for the improved
    running game and head coach Gary
    Kubiak still insists on calling most
    of the plays.
    — RealScouts analyzes NFL and college players,
    coaches and teams exclusively for Sporting News Today.

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  • Flasteel
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    • May 2008
    • 4004

    #2
    Re: NFL scouts, rank their top 20 offensive coordinators:

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    • RuthlessBurgher
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      • May 2008
      • 33208

      #3
      Re: NFL scouts, rank their top 20 offensive coordinators:

      The Steelers have always been known more for their defense than their offense.

      Does anyone else find it odd that the only guys with Steeler ties on the list of top 20 defense coordinators was LeBeau and Capers, but on the top 20 list of offense coordinators, there was Chan Gailey, Kevin Gilbride, Bob Bratkowski, Mike Mularkey, Bruce Arians, and Russ Grimm?
      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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      • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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        • May 2008
        • 10281

        #4
        Re: NFL scouts, rank their top 20 offensive coordinators:

        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
        The Steelers have always been known more for their defense than their offense.

        Does anyone else find it odd that the only guys with Steeler ties on the list of top 20 defense coordinators was LeBeau and Capers, but on the top 20 list of offense coordinators, there was Chan Gailey, Kevin Gilbride, Bob Bratkowski, Mike Mularkey, Bruce Arians, and Russ Grimm?
        That struck me as well when I read this. I never would have thought that our coaching tree would be so wide on the offensive side of the ball
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        • 100$handshake

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          Re: NFL scouts, rank their top 20 offensive coordinators:

          Shouldn't the Rooney rule be applied to OC's? I don't recognize one of those guys as a minority.

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          • Oviedo
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            • May 2008
            • 23824

            #6
            Re: NFL scouts, rank their top 20 offensive coordinators:

            Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
            Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
            The Steelers have always been known more for their defense than their offense.

            Does anyone else find it odd that the only guys with Steeler ties on the list of top 20 defense coordinators was LeBeau and Capers, but on the top 20 list of offense coordinators, there was Chan Gailey, Kevin Gilbride, Bob Bratkowski, Mike Mularkey, Bruce Arians, and Russ Grimm?
            That struck me as well when I read this. I never would have thought that our coaching tree would be so wide on the offensive side of the ball
            How valid do you think this list is when Russ Grimm is listed at #12 and the guy has never called a single game as OC?
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            • RuthlessBurgher
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              • May 2008
              • 33208

              #7
              Re: NFL scouts, rank their top 20 offensive coordinators:

              Originally posted by Oviedo
              Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
              The Steelers have always been known more for their defense than their offense.

              Does anyone else find it odd that the only guys with Steeler ties on the list of top 20 defense coordinators was LeBeau and Capers, but on the top 20 list of offense coordinators, there was Chan Gailey, Kevin Gilbride, Bob Bratkowski, Mike Mularkey, Bruce Arians, and Russ Grimm?
              That struck me as well when I read this. I never would have thought that our coaching tree would be so wide on the offensive side of the ball
              How valid do you think this list is when Russ Grimm is listed at #12 and the guy has never called a single game as OC?
              Wasn't Brandon Pettigrew on the list of top 20 tight ends in the league as well, when the rookie hasn't played a single snap in the NFL? Same questionable logic (to say the least).
              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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              • papillon
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                • Mar 2008
                • 11340

                #8
                Offensive coordinator rankings...Discuss

                We had the defenisve coordinator rankings earlier, so, I thought I'd add the [url=http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=555913]offensive coordinator[/url] rankings. Don't shoot the messenger. :P

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                • RuthlessBurgher
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                  • May 2008
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                  #9
                  Re: Offensive coordinator rankings...Discuss

                  We discussed the O.C. list as well as the D.C. list already.

                  [url]http://www.planetsteelers.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6849[/url]

                  I'm getting ready to shoot the messenger...

                  Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                  Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                  We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                  We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                  • MeetJoeGreene
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                    • May 2008
                    • 3221

                    #10
                    Re: NFL scouts, rank their top 20 offensive coordinators:

                    Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                    Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                    The Steelers have always been known more for their defense than their offense.

                    Does anyone else find it odd that the only guys with Steeler ties on the list of top 20 defense coordinators was LeBeau and Capers, but on the top 20 list of offense coordinators, there was Chan Gailey, Kevin Gilbride, Bob Bratkowski, Mike Mularkey, Bruce Arians, and Russ Grimm?
                    That struck me as well when I read this. I never would have thought that our coaching tree would be so wide on the offensive side of the ball
                    The same for me. I was astounded at the number of their highly rated coordinators in the top 11.

                    I, however, totally disagree with the high regard for Arians.
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                    • fezziwig
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                      • Jan 2009
                      • 3515

                      #11
                      Re: Offensive coordinator rankings...Discuss

                      Our offense has done as well despite Arians. I think they do well because, the players give blood to make his offense gain what they do.

                      Had we an o-cordinator that had 1/2 a brain more than Arians, that cordinator would have 1/2 a brain.

                      Despite all our disagreements among us fans, I've never heard anyone disagree on just how bad Arians is. Some may say he isn't as bad as another may describe but, we still agree he is bad.

                      No other team offers Arians a position or even a mention of being their head coach. They give credit to where credit is due and that is our defense.

                      Never have you heard the annoucers or read in sporting news, Arians, the good O-cordinator or the man that knows offense.

                      Reading where he stacks amongst the other cordinator just goes to prove, you can't believe everything you read. Had they not won the Super Bowl, I wonder where they would have him ranked ?

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                      • fezziwig
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                        • Jan 2009
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                        #12
                        Re: NFL scouts, rank their top 20 offensive coordinators:

                        I hope some fool owner believes the report on Arians and takes him off our hands.

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                        • stlrz d
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                          • May 2008
                          • 9244

                          #13
                          Re: Offensive coordinator rankings...Discuss

                          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                          We discussed the O.C. list as well as the D.C. list already.

                          [url]http://www.planetsteelers.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6849[/url]

                          I'm getting ready to shoot the messenger...

                          That looks like it's from Baltimore's Inner Harbor! :P



                          So how about a thread merge mod?

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                          • ikestops85
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                            • Jun 2008
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                            #14
                            Re: NFL scouts, rank their top 20 offensive coordinators:

                            How does Gilbride rank @ #4. He was absolutely horrible as the Steelers O-Coordinator. I do like the Gailey and Mularkey rankings. I think both are very good. As for Arians, well I think at best he is middle of the road so he should slot in somewhere between 15 and 18 IMHO.
                            As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

                            but Go Steelers!!!

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                            • RussBII
                              Pro Bowler
                              • May 2008
                              • 1006

                              #15
                              Re: NFL scouts, rank their top 20 offensive coordinators:

                              2 Thoughts:

                              A) i think we have so many OC's ties on this list because we went through so many freaking OCs there for a bit.

                              B) Does anyone agree with me that Arians in his 2nd year was better than Arians in his 1st year? Maybe he's learning. I still disagree with a LOT of the play calling, but we did win a SB with him. There's no way that the offense covered for all of his weaknesses, he had to show some kind of skill at some point.... right>

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