Defensive coordinator rankings: LeBeau knows

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Defensive coordinator rankings: LeBeau knows

What defense did Buddy Ryan run ? Besides the dirty tactics that he used.

That cracks me up too. Ryans defenses had hit list for players, they took cheap shots, they have a game named after them called the "Body Bag Game " and people cry about Hines Ward being able to block as a wide receiver.

The Buddy Ryan defense was the 46 defense. However, the 46 in this case referred to the uniform number of safety Doug Plank, not the number of DL and LB on the field like the 4-3 and 3-4 (if it meant 4 DL and 6 LB, that would only leave 1 DB, which would be idiotic). The basic idea would be to have a regular 4 man DL, but then have both the strong side and weakside linebackers line up on the same side to create an imbalance, making it difficult to block. They would move up their strong safety up as an 8th man in the box next to the middle linebacker (in the case of the 85 Bears, it was Doug Plank moving up next to Mike Singletary)

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

Re: Defensive coordinator rankings: LeBeau knows

Wonder where the new HC of the Jets would have been ranked if he was still the DC in Ravenland.

[stlrz d]

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Who invented 3-4 D?? Is it Dom Capers or bad word LeBeau???

Capers and LeBeau arrived in Pittsburgh in 1992 when Cowher was hired. Plenty of teams were running a 3-4 D in the 80's, when we made our switch from the day of the old Steel Curtain four man front. For instance, the 86 Giants with L.T., Harry Carson, Pepper Johnson, and Carl Banks at LB. There were also those Saints teams that had all 4 LB's make the Pro Bowl in the same year with Pat Swilling, Sam Mills, Vaughn Johnson, and Rickey Jackson.

You are probably referring to who originated the zone blitz schemes that we used within our 3-4 defense. Although Capers was the defensive coordinator and LeBeau was the secondary coach for the first few years in Cowher's tenure, LeBeau was widely credited with coming up with the zone blitz schemes that we started using at that time.

Per the Wiki article I posted, we started running it in '82 after Mean Joe and LC retired.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Defensive coordinator rankings: LeBeau knows

Who invented 3-4 D?? Is it Dom Capers or bad word LeBeau???

Capers and LeBeau arrived in Pittsburgh in 1992 when Cowher was hired. Plenty of teams were running a 3-4 D in the 80's, when we made our switch from the day of the old Steel Curtain four man front. For instance, the 86 Giants with L.T., Harry Carson, Pepper Johnson, and Carl Banks at LB. There were also those Saints teams that had all 4 LB's make the Pro Bowl in the same year with Pat Swilling, Sam Mills, Vaughn Johnson, and Rickey Jackson.

You are probably referring to who originated the zone blitz schemes that we used within our 3-4 defense. Although Capers was the defensive coordinator and LeBeau was the secondary coach for the first few years in Cowher's tenure, LeBeau was widely credited with coming up with the zone blitz schemes that we started using at that time.

Per the Wiki article I posted, we started running it in '82 after Mean Joe and LC retired.

Yeah, that's why I said "Plenty of teams were running a 3-4 D in the 80's, when we made our switch from the day of the old Steel Curtain four man front." :P

[stlrz d]

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I think he is wrong when he says that the Steelers don't have a good matchup secondary and that they use all out pressure.

The 08 squad had the best matchup secondary since Rod Woodson.

I don't think LeBeau uses the all out zone blitz as much as he did in the mid 90's and the "blitzburgh" era. They are much more controlled and disciplined in this defense.

skyhawk,

good points.......I dont remember Troy blitzing once last year.

Funny, I just flipped on NFLN and they are showing the Steelers @ Pats from '08. I joined in progress. The first play I saw was a Troy blitz. The Pats ran to the other side though. Three plays later Troy blitzed again and rushed Cassel on a throw, which ended the drive. :P

Also just saw a great downfield block by Hines that got Moore another 5 yeards rushing...man will Ward be missed when he hangs 'em up.

[stlrz d]

Re: Defensive coordinator rankings: LeBeau knows

Who invented 3-4 D?? Is it Dom Capers or bad word LeBeau???

Capers and LeBeau arrived in Pittsburgh in 1992 when Cowher was hired. Plenty of teams were running a 3-4 D in the 80's, when we made our switch from the day of the old Steel Curtain four man front. For instance, the 86 Giants with L.T., Harry Carson, Pepper Johnson, and Carl Banks at LB. There were also those Saints teams that had all 4 LB's make the Pro Bowl in the same year with Pat Swilling, Sam Mills, Vaughn Johnson, and Rickey Jackson.

You are probably referring to who originated the zone blitz schemes that we used within our 3-4 defense. Although Capers was the defensive coordinator and LeBeau was the secondary coach for the first few years in Cowher's tenure, LeBeau was widely credited with coming up with the zone blitz schemes that we started using at that time.

Per the Wiki article I posted, we started running it in '82 after Mean Joe and LC retired.

Yeah, that's why I said "Plenty of teams were running a 3-4 D in the 80's, when we made our switch from the day of the old Steel Curtain four man front." :P

You didn't give the year.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Defensive coordinator rankings: LeBeau knows

[quote=stlrz d]

Who invented 3-4 D?? Is it Dom Capers or bad word LeBeau???

Capers and LeBeau arrived in Pittsburgh in 1992 when Cowher was hired. Plenty of teams were running a 3-4 D in the 80's, when we made our switch from the day of the old Steel Curtain four man front. For instance, the 86 Giants with L.T., Harry Carson, Pepper Johnson, and Carl Banks at LB. There were also those Saints teams that had all 4 LB's make the Pro Bowl in the same year with Pat Swilling, Sam Mills, Vaughn Johnson, and Rickey Jackson.

You are probably referring to who originated the zone blitz schemes that we used within our 3-4 defense. Although Capers was the defensive coordinator and LeBeau was the secondary coach for the first few years in Cowher's tenure, LeBeau was widely credited with coming up with the zone blitz schemes that we started using at that time.

Per the Wiki article I posted, we started running it in '82 after Mean Joe and LC retired.

Yeah, that's why I said "Plenty of teams were running a 3-4 D in the 80's, when we made our switch from the day of the old Steel Curtain four man front." :P

You didn't give the year. [/quote:uz441aek]

Forgive me. I was 7 years old back then.

It's hard to believe that my son is 7 now (and will be 8 in two weeks!)

[NorthCoast]

Re: Defensive coordinator rankings: LeBeau knows

I think he is wrong when he says that the Steelers don't have a good matchup secondary and that they use all out pressure.

The 08 squad had the best matchup secondary since Rod Woodson.

I don't think LeBeau uses the all out zone blitz as much as he did in the mid 90's and the "blitzburgh" era. They are much more controlled and disciplined in this defense.

skyhawk,

good points.......I dont remember Troy blitzing once last year.

Lebeau is a great evaluator. When your talent pool up in the front 7 is stacked, the use of the secondary isn't necessarily a needed. We'll even be better on defense this year.

LeBeau said as much early last year. He was a little frustrated I think in '07 because his front 7 could not get the pressure without constant blitzing. This exposed the secondary to big plays because even with the blitzing we struggled to pressure the QB. Insert Woodley & Harrison and the complexion of the defense completely changes. I still remember board arguments for drafting 'shut down' CBs or stud DEs to cure our problems back then. I was on the side of finding LBs because shut down CBs are exceedingly hard to find where we typically draft and they typically cost $$$$$$$ to keep.