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  • fordfixer
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 10922

    Starks in no hurry for new deal

    Steelers notes: Starks in no hurry for new deal

    Starks in no hurry for new deal

    By Mike Bires, Times Sports Staff
    Published: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 12:06 AM EDT
    The Steelers want Max Starks to sign a long-term deal. But the mammoth left tackle doesn’t appear to be in any hurry.

    The Steelers can get much-needed room under a tight salary cap if Starks forgoes his “franchise” player contract and agrees to a long-term deal.

    On one hand, Starks wouldn’t mind securing a multi-year deal. Then again, if the numbers aren’t right, he’s in no hurry to give up the $8.45 million he’ll make this year. “Franchise” players earn the average of the top five salaries at their position.

    “I haven’t heard anything from my agent, so I don’t know what they’re doing,” Starks said when asked about the negotiations. “I’m sure they’ll let me know once something is happening.”

    Starks is one of several starters in the last year of his existing contract. Traditionally, the Rooney family doesn’t engage in contract talks once a season starts, so if Starks is to get a new deal, it must happen between now and Sept. 10.

    “It depends on the circumstances,” Starks said when asked if he prefers a new deal or his current one. “If it’s just a two year-extension, of course, I’d want something longer to kind of cement myself.”

    Last year he earned $6.895 million when the Steelers tagged him as a “transition” player. “Transition” players are paid the average of the top 10 salaries at their position.

    “I’m blessed to be in this position,” said the 27-year-old Starks.

    HOW ABOUT HEATH?

    If Starks is the Steelers’ No. 1 priority right now when it comes to contract extensions, then tight end Heath Miller is No. 2.

    Miller is under contract to make $800,000 in base salary this year. Really, he’s underpaid for what he means to the team as a blocker and clutch pass catcher.

    “I’m not really worried about something I have no control over,” Miller said. “That’s why I have an agent.

    “The reason I’m here right now (at organized team activities) is to get better. That’s all I’m worried about right now.”

    Miller was asked, “If you were a betting man, what are the odds you’ll have an extension before the start of the season?”

    “I can’t answer that,” he said. “I’m not a betting man.”

    X’s AND O’s

    - For the sixth of 14 allowed OTAs, several players did not attend Tuesday’s workout. Among them were three starters: nose tackle Casey Hampton, defensive end Brett Keisel and wide receiver Santonio Holmes. Also missing were backup cornerback Deshea Townsend and backup safety Tyrone Carter.

    - Because of rain, the Steelers practiced indoors.

    - For no specific reason, the Steelers wore yellow-gold helmets instead of their customary black ones.

    The yellow-gold helmets are worn when the Steelers wear their “throwback” uniforms.

    “I don’t know why we wore the gold helmets today,” long snapper Greg Warren said. “All I know is that when I walked into the locker room today, our gold helmets were hanging on the hooks.”

    - Linebacker James Harrison, whose 2-year-old son was bitten by his pit bull last week, didn’t speak to the media who attended Tuesday’s OTA.

    Harrison’s son has been in UPMC Children’s Hospital recovering from a severe bite to the thigh. He’s expected to be released from the hospital any day now.

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  • BATMAN
    Backup
    • Apr 2009
    • 223

    #2
    Re: Starks in no hurry for new deal

    From 1 to 10 where would your rate Starks as a tackle ?

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    • Herewegosteelers!
      Backup
      • Sep 2008
      • 206

      #3
      Re: Starks in no hurry for new deal

      Originally posted by BATMAN
      From 1 to 10 where would your rate Starks as a tackle ?
      About a 6..............I think Heath Miller is a 9 so he hopefully is extended before this season...

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      • papillon
        Legend
        • Mar 2008
        • 11340

        #4
        Re: Starks in no hurry for new deal

        Unfortunately, Max Starks has the upper hand at the moment he signed the franchise tender for one year. If he doesn't want get a long term deal done the Steelers are stuck paying his 8.45 million contract for one year and probably won't be able to get into serious discussions with Heath Miller. It doesn't sound like Starks is in any hurry to get along term deal done. He's taking a risk on getting injured, but, that's the game you play to try and become really wealthy in the NFL.

        It appears that the only way a long term deal with Miller will get done is if some veteran salary were eradicated to free up some space (And, I'm not sure that this is even a viable option due to dead money if you cut a vet.). I don't see Starks helping with the situation by signing a reasonable long term deal for his services.

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        • SteelerNation1
          Pro Bowler
          • May 2008
          • 1574

          #5
          Re: Starks in no hurry for new deal

          I think Miller would have been extended by now but we have to wait to see what happens with the new CBA
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          • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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            • May 2008
            • 10281

            #6
            Re: Starks in no hurry for new deal

            It seems that Starks' main concern is that if he signs he wants it to be long term. His comment was:
            “It depends on the circumstances,” Starks said when asked if he prefers a new deal or his current one. “If it’s just a two year-extension, of course, I’d want something longer to kind of cement myself.”
            If we want him signed then that comment makes it sound reasonably possible. I've been saying for awhile.....4 years @ around $28M. A big SB - like around $12M (almost half of his contract which is a lot) to compensate him for the franchise tag and I think we have a deal.
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            • Oviedo
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              • May 2008
              • 23824

              #7
              Re: Starks in no hurry for new deal

              Originally posted by papillon
              Unfortunately, Max Starks has the upper hand at the moment he signed the franchise tender for one year. If he doesn't want get a long term deal done the Steelers are stuck paying his 8.45 million contract for one year and probably won't be able to get into serious discussions with Heath Miller. It doesn't sound like Starks is in any hurry to get along term deal done. He's taking a risk on getting injured, but, that's the game you play to try and become really wealthy in the NFL.

              It appears that the only way a long term deal with Miller will get done is if some veteran salary were eradicated to free up some space (And, I'm not sure that this is even a viable option due to dead money if you cut a vet.). I don't see Starks helping with the situation by signing a reasonable long term deal for his services.

              Pappy
              Marvel Smith probably thought he had the upper hand at one time too. You play the game and pay the price. If it's me I take long term security over a one time big bang. Right now he has $8.45M guaranteed. If you had that and someone was wiilling to guarantee $13M if you extended it would be a no brainer on my part to take the extra $5M. Get hurt and you get nothing near that.
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              • True Fan

                #8
                Re: Starks in no hurry for new deal

                Originally posted by Oviedo
                Originally posted by papillon
                Unfortunately, Max Starks has the upper hand at the moment he signed the franchise tender for one year. If he doesn't want get a long term deal done the Steelers are stuck paying his 8.45 million contract for one year and probably won't be able to get into serious discussions with Heath Miller. It doesn't sound like Starks is in any hurry to get along term deal done. He's taking a risk on getting injured, but, that's the game you play to try and become really wealthy in the NFL.

                It appears that the only way a long term deal with Miller will get done is if some veteran salary were eradicated to free up some space (And, I'm not sure that this is even a viable option due to dead money if you cut a vet.). I don't see Starks helping with the situation by signing a reasonable long term deal for his services.

                Pappy
                Marvel Smith probably thought he had the upper hand at one time too. You play the game and pay the price. If it's me I take long term security over a one time big bang. Right now he has $8.45M guaranteed. If you had that and someone was wiilling to guarantee $13M if you extended it would be a no brainer on my part to take the extra $5M. Get hurt and you get nothing near that.
                what's an extra 5 million when you already stole 15 million the last two seasons? starks knows that the steelers have screwed themselves by not handling the OT position correctly in the past. why would he take the extra 5 million now when he can assume the steeler will overpay him again next by franchising him or another team will step up and give him an even larger siging bonus and a long term deal?

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                • RuthlessBurgher
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 33208

                  #9
                  Re: Starks in no hurry for new deal

                  Originally posted by True Fan
                  Originally posted by Oviedo
                  Originally posted by papillon
                  Unfortunately, Max Starks has the upper hand at the moment he signed the franchise tender for one year. If he doesn't want get a long term deal done the Steelers are stuck paying his 8.45 million contract for one year and probably won't be able to get into serious discussions with Heath Miller. It doesn't sound like Starks is in any hurry to get along term deal done. He's taking a risk on getting injured, but, that's the game you play to try and become really wealthy in the NFL.

                  It appears that the only way a long term deal with Miller will get done is if some veteran salary were eradicated to free up some space (And, I'm not sure that this is even a viable option due to dead money if you cut a vet.). I don't see Starks helping with the situation by signing a reasonable long term deal for his services.

                  Pappy
                  Marvel Smith probably thought he had the upper hand at one time too. You play the game and pay the price. If it's me I take long term security over a one time big bang. Right now he has $8.45M guaranteed. If you had that and someone was wiilling to guarantee $13M if you extended it would be a no brainer on my part to take the extra $5M. Get hurt and you get nothing near that.
                  what's an extra 5 million when you already stole 15 million the last two seasons? starks knows that the steelers have screwed themselves by not handling the OT position correctly in the past. why would he take the extra 5 million now when he can assume the steeler will overpay him again next by franchising him or another team will step up and give him an even larger siging bonus and a long term deal?
                  I hated using the transition tag on Starks last year. Thought it was a horrible idea at the time. But it turned out to be a shrewd move. When Marvel went down, would we have been able to win a Super Bowl with Trai Essex or a rookie Tony Hills starting at left tackle? I don't think so. So I no longer consider it to be money Starks stole from the team.
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                  • BURGH86STEEL
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 6921

                    #10
                    Re: Starks in no hurry for new deal

                    Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                    Originally posted by True Fan
                    Originally posted by Oviedo
                    Originally posted by papillon
                    Unfortunately, Max Starks has the upper hand at the moment he signed the franchise tender for one year. If he doesn't want get a long term deal done the Steelers are stuck paying his 8.45 million contract for one year and probably won't be able to get into serious discussions with Heath Miller. It doesn't sound like Starks is in any hurry to get along term deal done. He's taking a risk on getting injured, but, that's the game you play to try and become really wealthy in the NFL.

                    It appears that the only way a long term deal with Miller will get done is if some veteran salary were eradicated to free up some space (And, I'm not sure that this is even a viable option due to dead money if you cut a vet.). I don't see Starks helping with the situation by signing a reasonable long term deal for his services.

                    Pappy
                    Marvel Smith probably thought he had the upper hand at one time too. You play the game and pay the price. If it's me I take long term security over a one time big bang. Right now he has $8.45M guaranteed. If you had that and someone was wiilling to guarantee $13M if you extended it would be a no brainer on my part to take the extra $5M. Get hurt and you get nothing near that.
                    what's an extra 5 million when you already stole 15 million the last two seasons? starks knows that the steelers have screwed themselves by not handling the OT position correctly in the past. why would he take the extra 5 million now when he can assume the steeler will overpay him again next by franchising him or another team will step up and give him an even larger siging bonus and a long term deal?
                    I hated using the transition tag on Starks last year. Thought it was a horrible idea at the time. But it turned out to be a shrewd move. When Marvel went down, would we have been able to win a Super Bowl with Trai Essex or a rookie Tony Hills starting at left tackle? I don't think so. So I no longer consider it to be money Starks stole from the team.
                    Starks did not steal anything. There were reasons why the Steelers gave him the money.
                    Cannot steal what was given.

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                    • Flasteel
                      Hall of Famer
                      • May 2008
                      • 4004

                      #11
                      Re: Starks in no hurry for new deal

                      Originally posted by True Fan
                      what's an extra 5 million when you already stole 15 million the last two seasons? starks knows that the steelers have screwed themselves by not handling the OT position correctly in the past. why would he take the extra 5 million now when he can assume the steeler will overpay him again next by franchising him or another team will step up and give him an even larger siging bonus and a long term deal?
                      I think it's pretty safe to say that Starks won't be tagged again by this ball club and he's not about to get a huge signing bonus/ contract elsewhere unless he absolutely dominates this year.

                      Why are you so bitter over Starks? Did the Rooneys dip into your savings account to help pay his salary?
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                      • True Fan

                        #12
                        Re: Starks in no hurry for new deal

                        Originally posted by Flasteel
                        Originally posted by True Fan
                        what's an extra 5 million when you already stole 15 million the last two seasons? starks knows that the steelers have screwed themselves by not handling the OT position correctly in the past. why would he take the extra 5 million now when he can assume the steeler will overpay him again next by franchising him or another team will step up and give him an even larger siging bonus and a long term deal?
                        I think it's pretty safe to say that Starks won't be tagged again by this ball club and he's not about to get a huge signing bonus/ contract elsewhere unless he absolutely dominates this year.

                        Why are you so bitter over Starks? Did the Rooneys dip into your savings account to help pay his salary?
                        dont complain about not extending certain players going into their final year because we're 'cap strapped' then

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                        • fezziwig
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 3515

                          #13
                          Re: Starks in no hurry for new deal

                          With Foster being let go by the Lions, what chance of getting him at a price that would also allow us to the security of signing Miller too, for long term ?

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                          • ikestops85
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                            • Jun 2008
                            • 3724

                            #14
                            Re: Starks in no hurry for new deal

                            Originally posted by fezziwig
                            With Foster being let go by the Lions, what chance of getting him at a price that would also allow us to the security of signing Miller too, for long term ?
                            Since he was a lion the chances are very good we will make a run at him
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                            • LasVegasGuy

                              #15
                              Re: Starks in no hurry for new deal

                              Why would he be in a hurry? He knows he isn't worth 8.5 million dollars to anyone. This is 2 years in a row we have made a mistake with this guy.

                              I say we will remove the tag very shortly and cut him during mini camp. Someone better then him is going to be a casualty cut from another team that we can pick up to easily replace him. Bye-Bye Starks it's been nice knowing you.

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