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  • stlrz d
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 9244

    Harvin...no chance the Steelers take him now

    If he's there at 1.32 they're not taking him. Not after Tomlin and Colbert both said character is more important to them than need. If this is true that is.

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    Sources: WRs Harvin, Tate tested positive for pot
    by Alex Marvez
    Updated: April 22, 2009, 7:16 AM EST

    The draft stock of Percy Harvin and Brandon Tate may have taken a hit. (what a clever pun...not!)

    Two sources told FOXSports.com that both wide receivers tested positive for marijuana in February at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis.

    Before the test results became official, Harvin was considered a potential first-round pick after leaving the University of Florida following his junior season. Tate was projected as a first or second rounder after a solid college career at North Carolina.

    Joel Segal, the agent who represents both players, didn't return messages seeking comment.

    Harvin and Tate were the only high-profile players to flunk their combine drug tests, the sources said. Fewer than a dozen players tested positive for recreational drugs, one source said.

    NFL teams received the drug-test results earlier this week. Players who failed are subject to entry into the NFL's substance-abuse program.

    Sports Illustrated's Web site reported that Boston College defensive tackle B.J. Raji had flunked a combine drug test. Raji was not on the list of failed players, one source said, and SI.com has since retracted its story.

    Harvin excelled as both a wide receiver and running back in Florida's spread offense. Harvin generated 1,303 yards from scrimmage and 17 touchdowns in 2008. He also posted a blazing time of 4.39 seconds in the 40-yard dash at the combine.

    Profootballtalk.com originally reported last week that Harvin had tested positive.

    Tate was having a monster season for North Carolina before tearing two knee ligaments midway through his senior campaign. He averaged 23.5 yards on his 16 receptions and was even more dangerous as a punt and kickoff returner. Tate's 397 all-purpose yards against McNeese State set a single-game record at UNC. Tate didn't work out at the Combine while still recovering from his injury.
  • calmkiller
    Pro Bowler
    • May 2008
    • 1819

    #2
    Re: Harvin...no chance the Steelers take him now

    Santonio Holmes? Super Bowl MVP? Took a hit this year as well.....

    Just saying...

    I don't agree with the use of recreational drugs. But it happens. I am not going to say it makes you a horrible person.
    LETS GO MOUNTAINEERS!
    Here We Go Steelers!
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    • Oviedo
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 23824

      #3
      Re: Harvin...no chance the Steelers take him now

      Just confirming what I have been telling you guys for awhile now.

      Do you really want a player who knows that he is going to the biggest try out event in his life and still thinks lighting up some dope is a good career decision? Total lack of self discipline and judgement.

      No thank you.
      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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      • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 3937

        #4
        Re: Harvin...no chance the Steelers take him now

        If any player tests positive at the combine...He is off my board. The kid knows the test is coming and still didn't prepare. It means either he lacks intelligence, has a serious problem, or doesn't care. Don't want a guy like that on my team. I also feel that is the same way the Steelers look at it.

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        • feltdizz
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 27532

          #5
          Re: Harvin...no chance the Steelers take him now

          Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
          If any player tests positive at the combine...He is off my board. The kid knows the test is coming and still didn't prepare. It means either he lacks intelligence, has a serious problem, or doesn't care. Don't want a guy like that on my team. I also feel that is the same way the Steelers look at it.
          yet Holmes could drive around smoking weed before an important game against Dallas?
          So do you want Holmes gone?
          Steelers 27
          Rats 16

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          • Mister Pittsburgh
            Hall of Famer
            • Jul 2008
            • 3674

            #6
            Re: Harvin...no chance the Steelers take him now

            It should be legalized. That said, it isn't, and my beef with these morons is they know they have a test coming up and still can't hold back? I would guess a quarter of the players in the NFL fire it up in the offseason. Maybe that is part of the adjustment to pro football....knowing when to stop smoking weed so you pee clean.
            @_Hellgrammite

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            • stlrz d
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 9244

              #7
              Re: Harvin...no chance the Steelers take him now

              Originally posted by calmkiller
              Santonio Holmes? Super Bowl MVP? Took a hit this year as well.....

              Just saying...

              I don't agree with the use of recreational drugs. But it happens. I am not going to say it makes you a horrible person.
              It's about the lack of judgment and the disregard for the repercussions that could result from doing something illegal.

              Holmes was crucified for what he did this season, and rightly so. To answer the question that was posted, no I don't want Holmes gone because he's already on the team. But if he continues to do those things, then yes, he should be gone.

              Harvin isn't on the team yet and there's no reason to bring him on board after something like this. Let someone else take a chance on him.

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              • calmkiller
                Pro Bowler
                • May 2008
                • 1819

                #8
                Re: Harvin...no chance the Steelers take him now

                Originally posted by stlrz d
                Originally posted by calmkiller
                Santonio Holmes? Super Bowl MVP? Took a hit this year as well.....

                Just saying...

                I don't agree with the use of recreational drugs. But it happens. I am not going to say it makes you a horrible person.
                It's about the lack of judgment and the disregard for the repercussions that could result from doing something illegal.

                Holmes was crucified for what he did this season, and rightly so. To answer the question that was posted, no I don't want Holmes gone because he's already on the team. But if he continues to do those things, then yes, he should be gone.

                Harvin isn't on the team yet and there's no reason to bring him on board after something like this. Let someone else take a chance on him.
                I will give you the fact that he is stupid for doing before the biggest job interview of his life. My main argument was the fact that it is illegal. Which is complete and total BS imo. And I have never smoked a day in my life. Alcohol and Tobacco screw up more lives than weed but they are perfectly legal. Anyway, no need to derail this thread.
                LETS GO MOUNTAINEERS!
                Here We Go Steelers!
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                • stlrz d
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 9244

                  #9
                  Re: Harvin...no chance the Steelers take him now

                  Originally posted by calmkiller
                  Originally posted by stlrz d
                  Originally posted by calmkiller
                  Santonio Holmes? Super Bowl MVP? Took a hit this year as well.....

                  Just saying...

                  I don't agree with the use of recreational drugs. But it happens. I am not going to say it makes you a horrible person.
                  It's about the lack of judgment and the disregard for the repercussions that could result from doing something illegal.

                  Holmes was crucified for what he did this season, and rightly so. To answer the question that was posted, no I don't want Holmes gone because he's already on the team. But if he continues to do those things, then yes, he should be gone.

                  Harvin isn't on the team yet and there's no reason to bring him on board after something like this. Let someone else take a chance on him.
                  I will give you the fact that he is stupid for doing before the biggest job interview of his life. My main argument was the fact that it is illegal. Which is complete and total BS imo. And I have never smoked a day in my life. Alcohol and Tobacco screw up more lives than weed but they are perfectly legal. Anyway, no need to derail this thread.
                  Whether or not pot should be legalized has nothing to do with this though. It is illegal and he completely disregarded that fact when he did what he did.

                  Agreeing or disagreeing with a law has nothing to do with breaking that law.

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                  • WoodleyofTroy
                    Starter
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 709

                    #10
                    Re: Harvin...no chance the Steelers take him now

                    It's not about the process of smoking weed. If he wants to get high, get high. But it's the fact that you NOW KNOW that there is a possibility that he can get suspended in the future causing him to miss games. Can't see how that won't be a red flag for Tomlin.

                    If this was Calvin Johnson (as he admitted last year) that's fine. But Harvin is already carrying baggage, putting himself in a deeper hole.

                    I still wouldn't mind Harvin in this Offense, but I wouldn't predict it.
                    "That's just Ben being Superman" -John Madden, Super Bowl XLIII

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                    • RuthlessBurgher
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 33208

                      #11
                      Re: Harvin...no chance the Steelers take him now

                      It is the stupid decision more than the act itself. Even if the test was for something completely and totally legal (like, say, caffeine), but they told me at the combine that they would be testing for caffeine, and there would be negative repercussions if caffeine was found in your system, do you think that I would be drinking Red Bulls the night before the biggest job interview of my life??? Even if I really like Mountain Dew, you'd think I would be smart enough to drink water or Gatorade or something else, knowing that I would be tested. Anyone that tests positive at the combine has to be exceedingly stupid, have no self-discipline whatsoever, or have a major problem with whatever drug they tested positive for. None of those explanations would satisfy me if I were a potential employer.
                      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                      • calmkiller
                        Pro Bowler
                        • May 2008
                        • 1819

                        #12
                        Re: Harvin...no chance the Steelers take him now

                        It'll be alright though. The Bengals select before us. He will have a home.
                        LETS GO MOUNTAINEERS!
                        Here We Go Steelers!
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                        • Oviedo
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 23824

                          #13
                          Re: Harvin...no chance the Steelers take him now

                          Repeat after me. Legal is legal. Illegal is illegal. Right is right. Wrong is wrong. Pretty straight forward approach.

                          If you are stupid enough to do something illegal when you know you are going to be tested for it and the tests will almost 100% for certain catch you brings up another saying: Stupid is stupid.
                          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                          • Oviedo
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 23824

                            #14
                            Re: Harvin...no chance the Steelers take him now

                            Originally posted by calmkiller
                            It'll be alright though. The Bengals select before us. He will have a home.
                            I hope so. He would probably be healthy for about 10 games per year.
                            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                            • AngryAsian
                              Hall of Famer
                              • May 2008
                              • 3010

                              #15
                              Re: Harvin...no chance the Steelers take him now

                              Originally posted by Oviedo
                              Repeat after me. Legal is legal. Illegal is illegal. Right is right. Wrong is wrong. Pretty straight forward approach.

                              If you are stupid enough to do something illegal when you know you are going to be tested for it and the tests will almost 100% for certain catch you brings up another saying: Stupid is stupid.

                              I don't think it is as black and white as you paint it.... I mean from their perspective. Most who get popped are of the same mind as people who choose to drink and drive. Highly illegal, but yet millions do it anyway thinking, "I'm okay to drive." I think that Ruthless, hit it on the head with his assessment of their decision making capabilities. The lack of maturity is glaring and is a red flag for Tomlin and Colbert, and most certainly something that is not wanted nor tolerated by this organization.

                              Harvin/Tate's poor judgement is not only stupid but unfortunately common place with the young. We've all done ridiculously dumb things from the age range of 18-22. Survival through these lessons of youth build character and wisdom. For us, generally speaking, "bumps in the road." For these two young men... a mountain of cash totaling in the millions.

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