ESPN Steelers on the clock

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Re: ESPN Steelers on the clock

Mack and Oher are almost the only two guys I'm even considering with the Steelers first pick. I'm still thinking Robinson, too. But Mack is the best player at his position in the draft and it is a position that we, ironically enough, need. When there is a best player at position (BPAP) at 1.32 and you need that position, you take that player. It can't be any simpler than that.

Mack, Oher, Robinson were my top 3.. with B-Mac leaving, you better believe that CB is very high priority... and D-line has a solid priority on it as well, as far as needs go... i'd be surprised to see the 1st round pick be other than one of these 3 positions. i wouldn't be surprised if it was ANY of them, depending on who was there.

a deeper question, who is better at his respective position... the best guard (robinson) versus best center(mack)

I know many read what they read and pretend to be the expert based on that. but, the so-called experts said Will Gay would be nothing more than a camp body. So, based on what *I've* seen, I'm not sure I know the answer, and I watch a LOT of college football. i'm just not convinced that Mack is a better center than Robinson is a guard. They're both good at what they do...


The spin that nobody is looking at: I am convinced that this is a really good center class, where we could actually get really good one later in the draft and not have a huge drop off. In other words, because the center class is good, the dropoff from 1-to-5 isn't that bad. i don't believe i can say the same thing for the guard position.

Honestly, if we had Robinson in the 1st and Luigs in the 3rd...
I don't believe you could find me a guard in the 3rd that would be a better tandem.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: ESPN Steelers on the clock

Mack and Oher are almost the only two guys I'm even considering with the Steelers first pick. I'm still thinking Robinson, too. But Mack is the best player at his position in the draft and it is a position that we, ironically enough, need. When there is a best player at position (BPAP) at 1.32 and you need that position, you take that player. It can't be any simpler than that.

Mack, Oher, Robinson were my top 3.. with B-Mac leaving, you better believe that CB is very high priority... and D-line has a solid priority on it as well, as far as needs go... i'd be surprised to see the 1st round pick be other than one of these 3 positions. i wouldn't be surprised if it was ANY of them, depending on who was there.

a deeper question, who is better at his respective position... the best guard (robinson) versus best center(mack)

I know many read what they read and pretend to be the expert based on that. but, the so-called experts said Will Gay would be nothing more than a camp body. So, based on what *I've* seen, I'm not sure I know the answer, and I watch a LOT of college football. i'm just not convinced that Mack is a better center than Robinson is a guard. They're both good at what they do...


The spin that nobody is looking at: I am convinced that this is a really good center class, where we could actually get really good one later in the draft and not have a huge drop off. In other words, because the center class is good, the dropoff from 1-to-5 isn't that bad. i don't believe i can say the same thing for the guard position.

Honestly, if we had Robinson in the 1st and Luigs in the 3rd...
I don't believe you could find me a guard in the 3rd that would be a better tandem.

Talentwise, you can make a case for Robinson. But when you look at things like leadership, smarts, not taking plays off, and other intangibles, Mack just seems more like a Steeler to me than Duke. And Mack could play RG as a rookie in place of Stapleton before moving over to center in 2010 (when Hartwig's contract expires).

[WoodleyofTroy]

Re: ESPN Steelers on the clock

Well, it's no surprise that Alex Mack is shaping up to be this year's Heath Miller.

He's a top 10 talent (I guarantee he'll have a better pro career than at least 20 out of 31 other players that go before him), and I would take him over half the first round prospects, including an Andre Smith. And more I think about it, I'd rather stay put and get Mack oppose to trading up for a Michael Oher who is not as safe, and give up picks.

I think we'd be pretty fortunate to be at #32 this year, getting a #1 guy. One of those picks that fans around the league say, "sh*t, how did the Steelers get him?" with envy.

10 ten talent? Wow. I think you are on your own in that assessment. He might be one of the safer picks, but there are at least 30 guys that are more talented. Still, I like the pick.

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[buckeyehoppy]

Re: ESPN Steelers on the clock

Mack and Oher are almost the only two guys I'm even considering with the Steelers first pick. I'm still thinking Robinson, too. But Mack is the best player at his position in the draft and it is a position that we, ironically enough, need. When there is a best player at position (BPAP) at 1.32 and you need that position, you take that player. It can't be any simpler than that.

Mack, Oher, Robinson were my top 3.. with B-Mac leaving, you better believe that CB is very high priority... and D-line has a solid priority on it as well, as far as needs go... i'd be surprised to see the 1st round pick be other than one of these 3 positions. i wouldn't be surprised if it was ANY of them, depending on who was there.

a deeper question, who is better at his respective position... the best guard (robinson) versus best center(mack)

I know many read what they read and pretend to be the expert based on that. but, the so-called experts said Will Gay would be nothing more than a camp body. So, based on what *I've* seen, I'm not sure I know the answer, and I watch a LOT of college football. i'm just not convinced that Mack is a better center than Robinson is a guard. They're both good at what they do...


The spin that nobody is looking at: I am convinced that this is a really good center class, where we could actually get really good one later in the draft and not have a huge drop off. In other words, because the center class is good, the dropoff from 1-to-5 isn't that bad. i don't believe i can say the same thing for the guard position.

Honestly, if we had Robinson in the 1st and Luigs in the 3rd...
I don't believe you could find me a guard in the 3rd that would be a better tandem.

Talentwise, you can make a case for Robinson. But when you look at things like leadership, smarts, not taking plays off, and other intangibles, Mack just seems more like a Steeler to me than Duke. And Mack could play RG as a rookie in place of Stapleton before moving over to center in 2010 (when Hartwig's contract expires).

If Robinson is the guy selected, I think he will push Kemo for the starting gig at LG and he will eventually get it. That would be nice as well. Lots of people on here have been down on Kemo. I have, too, but probably not as much as some others. I still feel that Kemo will develop to be a pretty serviceable G on either side of the line. If Robinson becomes a Steeler in the draft that would be great because the person who will probably benefit the most from his selection (or, for that matter, Mack's) would be Kemo. I feel like Kemo wil improve as the quality of the players he is surrounded by improves.

Mack, however, will start from Day 1 if he is selected. He will at least start at RG next season and will take the C starting slot at some point no later than the start of the 2010 season.

It is doubtful that any CB selected could do the same and may end up languishing behind Ike and Deshea, especially if Townsend keeps plugging away and doing what he is doing. From what I have seen, Deshea really is showing signs of slowing. If he was, perhaps the Steelers make a harder play for BMac who was, incidentally, never able to wrest the starting job from him.