Something new to tick off Jay Cutler more than he already is

[Iron Shiek]

Re: Something new to tick off Jay Cutler more than he already is

I've never seen anywhere that he was elite. They made a big deal about him in the draft...but last year was his first full year as a starter for cryin out loud. Scrub? His defense was worse than any Bung-hole defense that Palmer ever had to try to carry. You can't judge this guy on one year. Unfortunately he is changing coaches and probably systems, so it could hamper his progression a bit.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Something new to tick off Jay Cutler more than he already is

I've never seen anywhere that he was elite. They made a big deal about him in the draft...but last year was his first full year as a starter for cryin out loud. Scrub? His defense was worse than any Bung-hole defense that Palmer ever had to try to carry. You can't judge this guy on one year. Unfortunately he is changing coaches and probably systems, so it could hamper his progression a bit.

Actually, he's been the starter for 2 full seasons. The first he threw for nearly 3500 yards (20 TD 14 INT) and the second he threw for over 4500 yards (25 TD 18 INT). I liked his progress enough that I suggested hiring his QB coach Jeremy Bates (a young coaching prodigy who had a history working with Tomlin in Tampa Bay) to replace Arians as our O.C. After Shanahan was fired, though, Bates went to work for Pete Carroll as the O.C. at USC.

[papillon]

Re: Something new to tick off Jay Cutler more than he already is

I've never seen anywhere that he was elite. They made a big deal about him in the draft...but last year was his first full year as a starter for cryin out loud. Scrub? His defense was worse than any Bung-hole defense that Palmer ever had to try to carry. You can't judge this guy on one year. Unfortunately he is changing coaches and probably systems, so it could hamper his progression a bit.

Actually, he's been the starter for 2 full seasons. The first he threw for nearly 3500 yards (20 TD 14 INT) and the second he threw for over 4500 yards (25 TD 18 INT). I liked his progress enough that I suggested hiring his QB coach Jeremy Bates (a young coaching prodigy who had a history working with Tomlin in Tampa Bay) to replace Arians as our O.C. After Shanahan was fired, though, Bates went to work for Pete Carroll as the O.C. at USC.

Cutler is another stat accumulator and it seems that's all he's destined to be. There's something about him that just says he won't or can't win a big game, kind of reminds of Romo. They both rack up yards, but, not big wins in December.

I'll stick with our hold the ball too long, throw into coverage, 2 time SB champion.

Pappy

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Something new to tick off Jay Cutler more than he already is

I've never seen anywhere that he was elite. They made a big deal about him in the draft...but last year was his first full year as a starter for cryin out loud. Scrub? His defense was worse than any Bung-hole defense that Palmer ever had to try to carry. You can't judge this guy on one year. Unfortunately he is changing coaches and probably systems, so it could hamper his progression a bit.

Actually, he's been the starter for 2 full seasons. The first he threw for nearly 3500 yards (20 TD 14 INT) and the second he threw for over 4500 yards (25 TD 18 INT). I liked his progress enough that I suggested hiring his QB coach Jeremy Bates (a young coaching prodigy who had a history working with Tomlin in Tampa Bay) to replace Arians as our O.C. After Shanahan was fired, though, Bates went to work for Pete Carroll as the O.C. at USC.

Cutler is another stat accumulator and it seems that's all he's destined to be. There's something about him that just says he won't or can't win a big game, kind of reminds of Romo. They both rack up yards, but, not big wins in December.

I'll stick with our hold the ball too long, throw into coverage, 2 time SB champion.

Pappy

Oh, absolutely. I am by no means saying that he is in Roethlisberger's league. Far from it. Ben is unquestionably in the top 3, and Cutler has likely worked his way into the top 10 (with the Palmers and the Romos but still a long way from the truly elite QB's). I am just saying that he is a much better QB than Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson, and I would prefer it if he were not in the AFC North, because a guy with an arm like his can still be dangerous.

[proudpittsburgher]

Re: Something new to tick off Jay Cutler more than he already is

Cutler may be an athlete, but he has proven himself to be a smoking gun, a clubhouse cancer. He basically ripped his defense on the Dan Patrick Show just before the Super Bowl. He's a showboat.