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  • mshifko
    Starter
    • May 2008
    • 686

    Potential CB options in the draft....

    i haven't hit my pre-draft stuff yet, just curious to see the rankings of the cornerbacks in this year's draft...

    with b-mac more than likely taking big money elsewhere, this leaves us in a position to draft a corner early...

    any ideas on who would we potentially draft if we went this route?
    "The standard is the standard" Mike Tomlin
  • Mister Pittsburgh
    Hall of Famer
    • Jul 2008
    • 3674

    #2
    Re: Potential CB options in the draft....

    CB Sean Smith 2nd Rnder?
    CB D.J. Moore 1st Rnder?
    @_Hellgrammite

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    • WoodleyofTroy
      Starter
      • Jan 2009
      • 709

      #3
      Re: Potential CB options in the draft....

      The guys I want the Steelers to look at, and my overall favorite Corners of the draft, who are also great Kick Returners.

      Darius Butler 5-10, 182 UConn (2nd round)
      Domonique Johnson 6-2, 200 Jackson State (3rd/4th round)

      I don't see the Steelers taking a first round corner. But if we truly wanted to replace Bryant McFadden and mimic the round he was drafted in, Darius Butler would fit that bill at the end of the 2nd...if he's there. Being a Big East fan I got to see a lot of William Gay, and I remember watching him at Louisville, thinking he would be a good Nickle Corner off the bat (New England Patriot like) making plays. As you can tell, I was very happy in the 5th round that year when we got him. Butler is ten times that. Has great hands (use to be a WR), and his cover skills just looked effort less out there. Hard to describe, if you watched him during the game (Pitt vs Conn for one) you could just tell he had it. Not sure what he's going to do at the combine, but he could very well go in the top of the 2nd putting us out of reach.

      Top 10-15 range:
      Malcolm Jenkins 6-0, 180 Ohio State
      Vontae Davis 6-0, 205 Illinois

      #15-#32
      D.J. Moore 5-10, 182 Vanderbilt
      Alphonso Smith 5-9, 195 Wake Forest

      1st round sleeper / Top 10 of the 2nd:
      Sean Smith 6-2, 215 Utah (probably a Free Safety)

      2nd/3rd round guys:
      Victor Harris 5-11, 192 Virginia Tech
      Coye Francies 6-1, 185 San Jose State
      Jairus Byrd 6-0, 205 Oregon
      Mike Mickens 5-11, 170 Cincinnati
      Asher Allen 5-10, 200 Georgia
      Bruce Johnson 5-10, 175 Miami
      Keenan Lewis 6-1, 200 Oregon State

      3rd-5th:
      Captain Munnerlyn 5-9, 190 South Carolina
      Jerraud Powers 5-9, 190 Auburn
      Ryan Palmer 5-9, 190 Texas
      Donald Washington 5-11, 195 Ohio State
      Sherrod Martin 6-0, 191 Troy
      Joe Burnett 5-11, 185 Central Florida
      Cary Harris 6-0, 180 USC
      "That's just Ben being Superman" -John Madden, Super Bowl XLIII

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      • WoodleyofTroy
        Starter
        • Jan 2009
        • 709

        #4
        Re: Potential CB options in the draft....

        Thanks for starting this thread by the way. I'd like to use this to keep updates at the Combine in how these Corners test out and who the Steelers may be keeping an eye on / bringing in for looks....instead of starting another thread.
        "That's just Ben being Superman" -John Madden, Super Bowl XLIII

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        • calmkiller
          Pro Bowler
          • May 2008
          • 1819

          #5
          Re: Potential CB options in the draft....

          I don't really know much about the corners this year. I know Ellis Lankster from WVU is going to be in the draft and he had a pretty good Senior Bowl. 1 int and some return yards. But he wasn't invited to the combine. He will probably be a FA if anyone does take a look at him. Sadly.
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          • Oviedo
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 23824

            #6
            Re: Potential CB options in the draft....

            Joe Burnett and Keenan Lewis. Burnett immediately helps the return game.

            Burnett is a better player coming out of UCF than Asante Samuel was.

            Analysis
            Positives: Confident and a leader on the field. ... Stronger than you'd expect for his size. ... Good vertical, able to make a play on jump balls. ... Solid hands for the interception and is elusive enough to make yardage after the catch. ... Good recovery and closing speed -- is never out of a play. ... Nice hand-eye coordination to break up passes. ... Quality kickoff and punt returner because he has solid hands, good vision and patience, hits the open lane hard, makes the first man miss and runs through arm tackles.

            Negatives: A bit small and light to handle larger NFL receivers, although he has a good lower-body build. ... Lacks elite top-end speed. ... Not particularly strong on the line and struggles to get off blocks. ... Brings pressure as a blitzer but does not finish off the quarterback. ... Usually plays off the receiver in order to get cushion on deep routes. ... More of a cut tackler, does not wrap up often enough. ... Probably best in a zone system with help over the top. ... Is not a typical pro punt returner with great speed and quickness.
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            • Iron Shiek
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 3798

              #7
              Re: Potential CB options in the draft....

              Originally posted by WoodleyofTroy
              Thanks for starting this thread by the way. I'd like to use this to keep updates at the Combine in how these Corners test out and who the Steelers may be keeping an eye on / bringing in for looks....instead of starting another thread.

              Good lookin out WoT. And might I suggest to the mods that perhaps we start "Position of Interest -- CB" or "Position of Interest -- OT" threads started and stickied. Then have a list of the guys at the combine similar to how WoT listed in his post above with potential round and measurables and school and what not. Then as the combine progresses, we can all add our comments regarding players that are at those positions.

              I don't do much draft scouting and rely on you guys who are good at it. It makes it cleaner to be able to find specific position breakdowns (of Steelers interest) in one place.

              Cheers.
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              • mshifko
                Starter
                • May 2008
                • 686

                #8
                Re: Potential CB options in the draft....

                i never thought about that guys...that would be a good idea to sticky threads related to positions in the draft...hook us up MODS
                "The standard is the standard" Mike Tomlin

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                • flippy
                  Legend
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 17088

                  #9
                  Re: Potential CB options in the draft....

                  Macho Harris is a great fit for the Steelers and has huge upside.

                  And he's a tremendous athlete that would be a fantastic return man on day 1.
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                  • dirt
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 49

                    #10
                    Re: Potential CB options in the draft....

                    Originally posted by WoodleyofTroy
                    The guys I want the Steelers to look at, and my overall favorite Corners of the draft, who are also great Kick Returners.

                    Darius Butler 5-10, 182 UConn (2nd round)
                    Domonique Johnson 6-2, 200 Jackson State (3rd/4th round)

                    I don't see the Steelers taking a first round corner. But if we truly wanted to replace Bryant McFadden and mimic the round he was drafted in, Darius Butler would fit that bill at the end of the 2nd...if he's there. Being a Big East fan I got to see a lot of William Gay, and I remember watching him at Louisville, thinking he would be a good Nickle Corner off the bat (New England Patriot like) making plays. As you can tell, I was very happy in the 5th round that year when we got him. Butler is ten times that. Has great hands (use to be a WR), and his cover skills just looked effort less out there. Hard to describe, if you watched him during the game (Pitt vs Conn for one) you could just tell he had it. Not sure what he's going to do at the combine, but he could very well go in the top of the 2nd putting us out of reach.

                    Top 10-15 range:
                    Malcolm Jenkins 6-0, 180 Ohio State
                    Vontae Davis 6-0, 205 Illinois

                    #15-#32
                    D.J. Moore 5-10, 182 Vanderbilt
                    Alphonso Smith 5-9, 195 Wake Forest

                    1st round sleeper / Top 10 of the 2nd:
                    Sean Smith 6-2, 215 Utah (probably a Free Safety)

                    2nd/3rd round guys:
                    Victor Harris 5-11, 192 Virginia Tech
                    Coye Francies 6-1, 185 San Jose State
                    Jairus Byrd 6-0, 205 Oregon
                    Mike Mickens 5-11, 170 Cincinnati
                    Asher Allen 5-10, 200 Georgia
                    Bruce Johnson 5-10, 175 Miami
                    Keenan Lewis 6-1, 200 Oregon State

                    3rd-5th:
                    Captain Munnerlyn 5-9, 190 South Carolina
                    Jerraud Powers 5-9, 190 Auburn
                    Ryan Palmer 5-9, 190 Texas
                    Donald Washington 5-11, 195 Ohio State
                    Sherrod Martin 6-0, 191 Troy
                    Joe Burnett 5-11, 185 Central Florida
                    Cary Harris 6-0, 180 USC
                    According to Lolley's blog today,[url]http://nflfromthesidelines.blogspot.com/[/url] Wexell mentioned that the steelers spent time talking with Coye Francies and Darius Butler at the combine.
                    "They are always talking about Gilbert Brown and nobody could move him. I put him on his back twice"

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                    • steelernation77
                      Backup
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 343

                      #11
                      Re: Potential CB options in the draft....

                      Coye Francies had a great Senior Bowl week. I don't think he'd be a available at 64.

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                      • RuthlessBurgher
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 33208

                        #12
                        Re: Potential CB options in the draft....

                        Originally posted by steelernation77
                        Coye Francies had a great Senior Bowl week. I don't think he'd be a available at 64.
                        Wasn't he kicked out of Oregon State after he was arrested for possession of a loaded firearm? The Steelers typically try to avoid guys like this.
                        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                        • WoodleyofTroy
                          Starter
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 709

                          #13
                          Re: Potential CB options in the draft....

                          Originally posted by steelernation77
                          Coye Francies had a great Senior Bowl week. I don't think he'd be a available at 64.
                          He also goes to the same school as Jarron Gilbert. San Jose State. Eventhough he has some character issues with questionable intelligence, he's still in the top 6-7 of CB's with that size and atheliticism. Curious to see what they say about him tomorrow.
                          "That's just Ben being Superman" -John Madden, Super Bowl XLIII

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                          • RuthlessBurgher
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 33208

                            #14
                            Re: Potential CB options in the draft....

                            Originally posted by WoodleyofTroy
                            Originally posted by steelernation77
                            Coye Francies had a great Senior Bowl week. I don't think he'd be a available at 64.
                            He also goes to the same school as Jarron Gilbert. San Jose State. Eventhough he has some character issues with questionable intelligence, he's still in the top 6-7 of CB's with that size and atheliticism. Curious to see what they say about him tomorrow.
                            Well, if it comes down to a choice between the two San Jose State boys at #64, I'm all over Gilbert.
                            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                            • steelernation77
                              Backup
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 343

                              #15
                              Re: Potential CB options in the draft....

                              Originally posted by WoodleyofTroy
                              Originally posted by steelernation77
                              Coye Francies had a great Senior Bowl week. I don't think he'd be a available at 64.
                              He also goes to the same school as Jarron Gilbert. San Jose State. Eventhough he has some character issues with questionable intelligence, he's still in the top 6-7 of CB's with that size and atheliticism. Curious to see what they say about him tomorrow.
                              I found his profile on draftcountdown.com interesting. It said he has questionable intelligence, but he plans to pursue a masters in biology? The gun thing is certainly a worry.

                              Darius Butler also looks good.

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