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  • anger 82&95
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    • May 2008
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    Fox sports mock draft

    [url="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9168376/A-very-early-NFL-mock-draft?MSNHPHCP&GT1=39002"]http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9168 ... &GT1=39002[/url]
  • AngryAsian
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 3010

    #2
    Re: Fox sports mock draft

    Originally posted by anger 82&
    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9168376/A-very-early-NFL-mock-draft?MSNHPHCP&GT1=39002

    It would be shocking if a talent like Percy Harvin were to fall that low... if he were to fall all the way to 32#, I would freak. I know OL is a priority, but how can you pass up a talent like that, especially when we have Russell and Davis returning kickoffs. Harvin in a Steeler uniform would be great... from my perspective that is.

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    • Oviedo
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 23824

      #3
      Re: Fox sports mock draft

      Originally posted by ASIAN
      Originally posted by anger 82&
      http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9168376/A-very-early-NFL-mock-draft?MSNHPHCP&GT1=39002

      It would be shocking if a talent like Percy Harvin were to fall that low... if he were to fall all the way to 32#, I would freak. I know OL is a priority, but how can you pass up a talent like that, especially when we have Russell and Davis returning kickoffs. Harvin in a Steeler uniform would be great... from my perspective that is.
      With Harvin's history on injuries I think it is very likely he falls to the bottom of Round 1 if not out of Round 1. He could be one of those truely great talents who you can't keep on the field. If he was available at #32 it would be very hard not to take him because he would immediately improve the return game. He could be a Devin Hester type player and if you didn't have to force him into the line up as a WR and gave him time to get stronger then he could be something special.
      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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      • AngryAsian
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 3010

        #4
        Re: Fox sports mock draft

        Originally posted by Oviedo
        Originally posted by ASIAN
        Originally posted by anger 82&
        http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9168376/A-very-early-NFL-mock-draft?MSNHPHCP&GT1=39002

        It would be shocking if a talent like Percy Harvin were to fall that low... if he were to fall all the way to 32#, I would freak. I know OL is a priority, but how can you pass up a talent like that, especially when we have Russell and Davis returning kickoffs. Harvin in a Steeler uniform would be great... from my perspective that is.
        With Harvin's history on injuries I think it is very likely he falls to the bottom of Round 1 if not out of Round 1. He could be one of those truely great talents who you can't keep on the field. If he was available at #32 it would be very hard not to take him because he would immediately improve the return game. He could be a Devin Hester type player and if you didn't have to force him into the line up as a WR and gave him time to get stronger then he could be something special.
        Agreed, brother and you are most certainly correct about the concern level regarding his injuries. But what an instant upgrade to the return game. But I think our needs on the line might take priority. Protect our franchise QB should be the theme of this year's draft.

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        • SidSmythe
          Hall of Famer
          • Sep 2008
          • 4708

          #5
          Re: Fox sports mock draft

          I'd take this pick . . . but i also like Alex Mack

          MACK is almost a garaunteed great center in this league. He ranks right there w/ Mangold coming out of college. Nothing wrong w/ winning the Superbowl and getting ur future Center for the next 12 yrs the next offseason.
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          • Lebsteel
            Pro Bowler
            • May 2008
            • 1007

            #6
            Re: Fox sports mock draft

            Originally posted by SidSmythe
            I'd take this pick . . . but i also like Alex Mack

            MACK is almost a garaunteed great center in this league. He ranks right there w/ Mangold coming out of college. Nothing wrong w/ winning the Superbowl and getting ur future Center for the next 12 yrs the next offseason.
            Agree 100% Beatty, Loadholt and the others that might be available are way too risky for me. Alex Mack can play guard and center AND is extremely smart. He won the Draddy Award as the outstanding college football scholar-athlete. I think that translates to being able to learn the playbook very quickly and adapt during game time situations.
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            • RuthlessBurgher
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 33208

              #7
              Re: Fox sports mock draft

              Originally posted by Lebsteel
              Originally posted by SidSmythe
              I'd take this pick . . . but i also like Alex Mack

              MACK is almost a garaunteed great center in this league. He ranks right there w/ Mangold coming out of college. Nothing wrong w/ winning the Superbowl and getting ur future Center for the next 12 yrs the next offseason.
              Agree 100% Beatty, Loadholt and the others that might be available are way too risky for me. Alex Mack can play guard and center AND is extremely smart. He won the Draddy Award as the outstanding college football scholar-athlete. I think that translates to being able to learn the playbook very quickly and adapt during game time situations.
              I think I would take the 5th ranked OT Eben Britton if he were to fall (the top 4 OT's should be long gone in the top half of the first round) over Alex Mack and Duke Robinson, but I would take the top center or top guard in the draft over 6th ranked OT William Beatty, who could be really good, but is also more of project. I want no part of Loadholt, who projects to RT instead of LT and seems to me to have a combination of Max Starks' body and Willie Colon's slow feet...I see that as a lateral move at best instead of an necessary upgrade...not what I am looking for in a first round pick.
              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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              • MaxAMillion
                Backup
                • Dec 2008
                • 439

                #8
                Re: Fox sports mock draft

                Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                Originally posted by Lebsteel
                Originally posted by SidSmythe
                I'd take this pick . . . but i also like Alex Mack

                MACK is almost a garaunteed great center in this league. He ranks right there w/ Mangold coming out of college. Nothing wrong w/ winning the Superbowl and getting ur future Center for the next 12 yrs the next offseason.
                Agree 100% Beatty, Loadholt and the others that might be available are way too risky for me. Alex Mack can play guard and center AND is extremely smart. He won the Draddy Award as the outstanding college football scholar-athlete. I think that translates to being able to learn the playbook very quickly and adapt during game time situations.
                I think I would take the 5th ranked OT Eben Britton if he were to fall (the top 4 OT's should be long gone in the top half of the first round) over Alex Mack and Duke Robinson, but I would take the top center or top guard in the draft over 6th ranked OT William Beatty, who could be really good, but is also more of project. I want no part of Loadholt, who projects to RT instead of LT and seems to me to have a combination of Max Starks' body and Willie Colon's slow feet...I see that as a lateral move at best instead of an necessary upgrade...not what I am looking for in a first round pick.
                It is an interesting question. Britton probably can't help you next year, but he most likely will be a starter at LT. On the other hand Mack and Robinson have the ability to play as rookies but they are not at a premium position.
                I think FA is a big part of the equation. If the team resigns Starks, they won't invest a 1st round pick on a LT.

                I want to see a new LG and a new RT. Colon should at least be tried inside. I would rather see the team take a short term flyer on Runyan at RT than go with Colon again at RT next season.
                The Steelers’ went through seven consecutive drafts (2003-09) without taking an offensive lineman in the first two rounds, the longest such streak by any franchise this century.

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                • Oviedo
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 23824

                  #9
                  Re: Fox sports mock draft

                  Originally posted by Lebsteel
                  Originally posted by SidSmythe
                  I'd take this pick . . . but i also like Alex Mack

                  MACK is almost a garaunteed great center in this league. He ranks right there w/ Mangold coming out of college. Nothing wrong w/ winning the Superbowl and getting ur future Center for the next 12 yrs the next offseason.
                  Agree 100% Beatty, Loadholt and the others that might be available are way too risky for me. Alex Mack can play guard and center AND is extremely smart. He won the Draddy Award as the outstanding college football scholar-athlete. I think that translates to being able to learn the playbook very quickly and adapt during game time situations.
                  I think the available players at #32 will probably be:

                  Alex Mack--future great Center
                  Max Unger--potential very good Center who may be able to play RT immediately
                  Duke Robinson--could be Guard for the next 10 years
                  Phil Loadholdt--could step in a RT but if moved inside to Guard could be great for many years

                  I'm not sold Britton is anything more than a one season wonder.
                  "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                  • SidSmythe
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 4708

                    #10
                    Re: Fox sports mock draft

                    Originally posted by Oviedo
                    Originally posted by Lebsteel
                    Originally posted by SidSmythe
                    I'd take this pick . . . but i also like Alex Mack

                    MACK is almost a garaunteed great center in this league. He ranks right there w/ Mangold coming out of college. Nothing wrong w/ winning the Superbowl and getting ur future Center for the next 12 yrs the next offseason.
                    Agree 100% Beatty, Loadholt and the others that might be available are way too risky for me. Alex Mack can play guard and center AND is extremely smart. He won the Draddy Award as the outstanding college football scholar-athlete. I think that translates to being able to learn the playbook very quickly and adapt during game time situations.
                    I think the available players at #32 will probably be:

                    Alex Mack--future great Center
                    Max Unger--potential very good Center who may be able to play RT immediately
                    Duke Robinson--could be Guard for the next 10 years
                    Phil Loadholdt--could step in a RT but if moved inside to Guard could be great for many years

                    I'm not sold Britton is anything more than a one season wonder.
                    With all the talk about ROBINSON at Guard, chances are he's gone by #32. Remember Brandon Albert last year?? We could even spit on him at #23.

                    I think our weaknesses on the O-Line are right up the middle. Starting at the Center and working out is a great way to start
                    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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                    • RuthlessBurgher
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 33208

                      #11
                      Re: Fox sports mock draft

                      Originally posted by SidSmythe
                      Originally posted by Oviedo
                      Originally posted by Lebsteel
                      Originally posted by SidSmythe
                      I'd take this pick . . . but i also like Alex Mack

                      MACK is almost a garaunteed great center in this league. He ranks right there w/ Mangold coming out of college. Nothing wrong w/ winning the Superbowl and getting ur future Center for the next 12 yrs the next offseason.
                      Agree 100% Beatty, Loadholt and the others that might be available are way too risky for me. Alex Mack can play guard and center AND is extremely smart. He won the Draddy Award as the outstanding college football scholar-athlete. I think that translates to being able to learn the playbook very quickly and adapt during game time situations.
                      I think the available players at #32 will probably be:

                      Alex Mack--future great Center
                      Max Unger--potential very good Center who may be able to play RT immediately
                      Duke Robinson--could be Guard for the next 10 years
                      Phil Loadholdt--could step in a RT but if moved inside to Guard could be great for many years

                      I'm not sold Britton is anything more than a one season wonder.
                      With all the talk about ROBINSON at Guard, chances are he's gone by #32. Remember Brandon Albert last year?? We could even spit on him at #23.

                      I think our weaknesses on the O-Line are right up the middle. Starting at the Center and working out is a great way to start
                      But the reason that Albert went in the top 15 last year was that he projected to LT in the NFL. The only reaason he played LG at Virginia is because Eugene Monroe was their LT, and he looks to be a sure fire top 10 pick...perhaps top 5...in this draft. Robinson was a guard in college who projects to guard in the pros. I don't know if Robinson, as the top guard prospect in the draft, will necessarily fall to #32, but I doubt that he would be taken in the top 20. We have a history of taking guards in the latter portion of round 1 (Faneca 26th in '98 and Simmons 30th in '02).
                      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                      • SidSmythe
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 4708

                        #12
                        Re: Fox sports mock draft

                        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                        Originally posted by SidSmythe
                        Originally posted by Oviedo
                        Originally posted by Lebsteel
                        Originally posted by SidSmythe
                        I'd take this pick . . . but i also like Alex Mack

                        MACK is almost a garaunteed great center in this league. He ranks right there w/ Mangold coming out of college. Nothing wrong w/ winning the Superbowl and getting ur future Center for the next 12 yrs the next offseason.
                        Agree 100% Beatty, Loadholt and the others that might be available are way too risky for me. Alex Mack can play guard and center AND is extremely smart. He won the Draddy Award as the outstanding college football scholar-athlete. I think that translates to being able to learn the playbook very quickly and adapt during game time situations.
                        I think the available players at #32 will probably be:

                        Alex Mack--future great Center
                        Max Unger--potential very good Center who may be able to play RT immediately
                        Duke Robinson--could be Guard for the next 10 years
                        Phil Loadholdt--could step in a RT but if moved inside to Guard could be great for many years

                        I'm not sold Britton is anything more than a one season wonder.
                        With all the talk about ROBINSON at Guard, chances are he's gone by #32. Remember Brandon Albert last year?? We could even spit on him at #23.

                        I think our weaknesses on the O-Line are right up the middle. Starting at the Center and working out is a great way to start
                        But the reason that Albert went in the top 15 last year was that he projected to LT in the NFL. The only reaason he played LG at Virginia is because Eugene Monroe was their LT, and he looks to be a sure fire top 10 pick...perhaps top 5...in this draft. Robinson was a guard in college who projects to guard in the pros. I don't know if Robinson, as the top guard prospect in the draft, will necessarily fall to #32, but I doubt that he would be taken in the top 20. We have a history of taking guards in the latter portion of round 1 (Faneca 26th in '98 and Simmons 30th in '02).
                        That's a good point BUT Albert played Guard in K.C. and I think most teams wanted him to play guard, but his versatility moved him up.

                        If Robinson is there, great. BUT if Alex Mack is there, that's fine too.
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                        • WoodleyofTroy
                          Starter
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 709

                          #13
                          Re: Fox sports mock draft

                          Duke Robinson is more comparable to a Ben Grubbs, a true late 1st/early 2nd Guard, not a Branden Albert or Shawn Andrews for that matter....he should be there.
                          "That's just Ben being Superman" -John Madden, Super Bowl XLIII

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                          • Oviedo
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 23824

                            #14
                            Re: Fox sports mock draft

                            I think Loadholdt could be better at Guard than either Mack or Robinson. Draft him and slide him inside.
                            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                            • WoodleyofTroy
                              Starter
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 709

                              #15
                              Re: Fox sports mock draft

                              Originally posted by Oviedo
                              I think Loadholdt could be better at Guard than either Mack or Robinson. Draft him and slide him inside.
                              I see Loadholt being one of those guys that drops big time in the draft. I'm talking 3rd round where everyone says "omg he's still on the board".. The combine will not be his friend.

                              In Mack and Robinson, you just know what you're getting and feel safe about it. Both #1's at their position.
                              "That's just Ben being Superman" -John Madden, Super Bowl XLIII

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