Question: Was Manning's quick snap dirty or genius?

[RussBII]

I got sucked into reading the comments over at PFT. I know I shouldn't, I don't even know why half of those guys watch football...

Anyway, a large amount of folks said that the quick snap/TD to Wayne was "cheap" or "Bush League." I disagree entirely. It's the defense's job to be ready for the play, not Manning's. He saw a weakness and exploited it.

It's the same thing as going after a 2nd string CB, or blitzing against an OL who just came in to sub for an injury.

Thoughts, feelings?

[Djfan]

Re: Question: Was Manning's quick snap dirty or genius?

Genius.

[flippy]

Re: Question: Was Manning's quick snap dirty or genius?

great play.

manning does all the little things right. like earlier, lining up to snap the ball without having a play so that the defense can't substitute.

he set up the defense perfectly.

he was going slow, using the play clock and then all of a sudden snapped it quick.

i suspect some rules might be changed though.

[VirgilBosett]

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When the ref puts the ball down and signals the play clock....both teams should be ready. Don't understand how anyone could think it was dirty.

Heady QB's can make such a difference with so many little things.

[Chachi]

Re: Question: Was Manning's quick snap dirty or genius?

For those who think it was "cheap" or "dirty"......here is a bit of advise.....

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[Steeler Shades]

Re: Question: Was Manning's quick snap dirty or genius?

Heady QB's can make such a difference with so many little things.

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Especially since the Chargers KNEW he has done that same thing during the regular season. The first thing I thought about after that play was that if the Steelers tried it, we'd either have a motion penalty or not enough guys on the line of scrimmage.

[stlrz d]

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For those who think it was "cheap" or "dirty"......here is a bit of advise.....

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I love that rant...it's one of my favorites! "Go play intermurals brother."

I put it right up there with this one:

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As for Manning, he's known for that. If a D tries to sub against the no huddle he burns 'em. That's a smart play...period.

[Starlifter]

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brilliant play by manning. much like marinos fake spike all those years ago. SD's d-back was looking at the sidelines for guidance when Reggie Wayne flew by him. it was beautiful. With the skill that Ben has can you imagine how we would be if he was as meticulous in preparation and knowledge of the game as manning? I hate the colts, but how can you hate Peyton manning?

[steelz09]

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That's OSU video is awesome. Have to say I agree with him. There's so much junk written in the papers that is either made up or is twisted it's ridiculous.

As far as manning quick snap, i think it was awesome. He punished a team for not being ready for that particular play and 7 points was the result. He's such a cerebral player and a great QB and will go down as one of the best ever when its all said and done. He takes what defenses gives him and punishes them when they make mistakes.

[stlrz d]

Re: Question: Was Manning's quick snap dirty or genius?

brilliant play by manning. much like marinos fake spike all those years ago. SD's d-back was looking at the sidelines for guidance when Reggie Wayne flew by him. it was beautiful. With the skill that Ben has can you imagine how we would be if he was as meticulous in preparation and knowledge of the game as manning? I hate the colts, but how can you hate Peyton manning?

Did you know that Aaron Glenn is still in the league? I didn't until I looked it up after they showed that play again the other day. He played for the Saints this season. [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/aaronglenn/profile?id=GLE126430"]http://www.nfl.com/players/aaronglenn/p ... =GLE126430[/url]

That's OSU video is awesome. Have to say I agree with him. There's so much junk written in the papers that is either made up or is twisted it's ridiculous.

As far as manning quick snap, i think it was awesome. He punished a team for not being ready for that particular play and 7 points was the result. He's such a cerebral player and a great QB and will go down as one of the best ever when its all said and done. He takes what defenses gives him and punishes them when they make mistakes.

For the most part I do too.

[snarky]

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Dirty is doing something to hurt another player or to cheat outright. I don't see anything wrong with it.

[RKSteel]

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I thought it was a great play, I couldn't believe the DB was just standing there.

SS, you are right, if the Steelers tried it, there definately would be a penalty.

[Steel Life]

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It's cheating if your definition is - "making a smart play by being aware when your competition falls asleep".

It's not the Colts responsibility to make sure the Chargers were ready...this isn't gym class. In my opinion, teams don't do it enough...you sure don't see the quick-snap as much anymore when teams jump offsides. As my coach used to say - If the other team screws up, screw them.

[NorthCoast]

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Anyone that has watched Peyton over the years should know that he did this ALOT early on in his career. Teams got smarter about it and we have not seen it as much. It's heads-up ball if you can execute it correctly. Shame on the D for not being ready.

[Wolfhound45]

Re: Question: Was Manning's quick snap dirty or genius?

Genius. Just like the fake spike from years ago.

It is the job of the defense to play defense. It is his job to exploit any weaknesses in that defense.