Only think toxic about Wilson in Denver was Sean Peyton

[WindyCitySteel]

You talk like this is new? Ben had PLENTY of fumbles. We were talking about running backs. QBs have WAY MORE fumbles than running backs.

Russels 10 is ALMOST as many as Ben had the last time he played in 2021 (11).

Heck Ben had 14 fumbles in 2008 to lead the league.
Care to remind us how that season ended?

It only seems to be a problem when discussing Justin Fields.

[WindyCitySteel]

And Bettis HAS been in a doghouse due to weight. Just not COWHERS doghouse.
He maxed out at 247 as a Ram (7 over his rookie playing weight) and it was a problem.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-07-14-sp-15548-story.html

Dude was 260 plus with us. But Cowher is some kind of fitness hardliner.

Comparing the Rams' handling of Bettis vs. Cowher's is probably not the win you're looking for.

[WindyCitySteel]

I refuse to argue with ignorance. Anytime I see stuff like ?woke mob? I know its looney tunes and that person is deep in the mud.

Right, "woke" is just a rIGhT WiNg coNSpIrAcY ThEoRY.

https://x.com/ErrolWebber/status/1567859007230197760

[Joel Buchsbaum]

I buy this POV. Peyton is egomaniac A**hole. We'll see him exposed in Denver without Brees

https://steelersdepot.com/2024/06/only-thing-toxic-about-russell-wilson-in-denver-was-sean-payton-fittipaldo-suggests/

Maybe Tomlin is too soft with his divas, while Payton is less tolerant of them? People not in the Pittsburgh media say Payton is a better coach and he sure is a heck to a lot better on red flag challenges. This is but one factor. Shall we also compare coaching trees?

Over rated you say?

https://www.fox8live.com/story/21321228/nfl-combine-sean-paytons-coaching-tree-growing-rapidly/

[NorthCoast]

I would likely to see a specific breakdown of the Steelers as betting favorite vs .500 and below teams. Just a hunch if you beat against the Steelers in such games, you come to ahead. It may be a dirty little Las Vegas secret. If someone can get me that data, it would be interesting.

How about you do your own research and get back to us on that question?

[feltdizz]

Right, "woke" is just a rIGhT WiNg coNSpIrAcY ThEoRY.

https://x.com/ErrolWebber/status/1567859007230197760

No idea what this link is supposed to imply or what it has to do with the game of football..

but its another example of why it makes no sense to argue with people who throw out the word woke in word salads.

[feltdizz]

Maybe Tomlin is too soft with his divas, while Payton is less tolerant of them? People not in the Pittsburgh media say Payton is a better coach and he sure is a heck to a lot better on red flag challenges. This is but one factor. Shall we also compare coaching trees?

Over rated you say?

https://www.fox8live.com/story/21321228/nfl-combine-sean-paytons-coaching-tree-growing-rapidly/

Payton coached in a dome in a mediocre division and there is no evidence he is better than Tomlin. Dude actually ran from the struggle once the Saints lost Brees.

[Oviedo]

Maybe Tomlin is too soft with his divas, while Payton is less tolerant of them? People not in the Pittsburgh media say Payton is a better coach and he sure is a heck to a lot better on red flag challenges. This is but one factor. Shall we also compare coaching trees?

Over rated you say?

https://www.fox8live.com/story/21321228/nfl-combine-sean-paytons-coaching-tree-growing-rapidly/

Better coach? Six non-winning seasons with one of the three best QBs of his era.

Coached in one of the weakest divisions in football

You be you and if that is your idea of great, I'll pass

[Prowler]

Right, "woke" is just a rIGhT WiNg coNSpIrAcY ThEoRY.

https://x.com/ErrolWebber/status/1567859007230197760

Imagine being so woke like he is that he would have no problem with a grown man pretending to be woman using the same washroom as his daughter. But he brands normal people who try to protect children as ignorant and looney.

[Captain Lemming]

Sure compare a near 40 year old football player to a 35 year old guy. That sounds fair.

Read to comprehend brother.
Ben had his CAREER AND LEAGUE HIGH FIFTEEN FUMBLES IN 2008.

That was the last time he won a Superbowl. He was in his 20s.

[Captain Lemming]

Comparing the Rams' handling of Bettis vs. Cowher's is probably not the win you're looking for.

I got no beef with Cowhers handling of Bettis. Dude was a HOFer.
THE FATTEST HALL OF FAME BACK in history!!!

My point is that there is ZERO BASIS to imagine Cowher as some fitness hardliner. We KNOW Tomlin prioritizes fitness.

My mention of the Rams is because Bettis was so fat his weight WAS a concern with the only other staff he played for.

In the end it was not an issue.

Nevertheless, the assumption that Cowher who coached one of the fattest backs in history would do what WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE HE EVER DID in relation to Parker is ludicrous.

[Captain Lemming]

Request?
Can we skip the politics?

Not only does it distract from football, people begin questioning the true motives of peoples opinions.

Every time this happens the discussion goes off the rails and gets way too personal.

In the end I have no authority here. It is just a suggestion. But I hope I might persuade others to just get back to the game.

Less blue and red and more BLACK AND GOLD please.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Better coach? Six non-winning seasons with one of the three best QBs of his era.

Coached in one of the weakest divisions in football

You be you and if that is your idea of great, I'll pass

Quick question for Oviedo!

Who do you think had more talent , the Steelers or the Saints? I say the Steelers.

Follow up question. Which coach has a better record in the playoffs? Tomlin or Payton?

Thanks for playing. These question have more relevance than say which coach is better on the red flag, wouldn't you say?

I could ask which coach knows more about football, but I think I know you answer to that question.

It remains to be seen if you can answer the others.

[Prowler]

Request?
Can we skip the politics?

Not only does it distract from football, people begin questioning the true motives of peoples opinions.

Every time this happens the discussion goes off the rails and gets way too personal.

In the end I have no authority here. It is just a suggestion. But I hope I might persuade others to just get back to the game.

Less blue and red and more BLACK AND GOLD please.

For you I can, you just had to remind me Lemming.

[feltdizz]

Quick question for Oviedo!

Who do you think had more talent , the Steelers or the Saints? I say the Steelers.

Follow up question. Which coach has a better record in the playoffs? Tomlin or Payton?

Thanks for playing. These question have more relevance than say which coach is better on the red flag, wouldn't you say?

I could ask which coach knows more about football, but I think I know you answer to that question.

It remains to be seen if you can answer the others.

Who has more playoff appearances?
Who has the better regular season record?
Who has the better career record?