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  • Oviedo
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    • May 2008
    • 23776

    #16
    Originally posted by feltdizz
    sucked against crappy teams with Mitch at QB.

    thankfully that is over and done now.
    Is it though? How much cap do we have to eat to cut Trubisky?

    Would we/should we if we can't resign Rudolph?
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    • SteelerOfDeVille
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      • May 2008
      • 9065

      #17
      Wanna know another surprising stat that i just read?

      Mason is second in the league with TDs over 60 yards. That?s insane given he only started 3 games.
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      • feltdizz
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        • May 2008
        • 27226

        #18
        Originally posted by Oviedo
        Is it though? How much cap do we have to eat to cut Trubisky?

        Would we/should we if we can't resign Rudolph?
        There is no reason for Mitch to be on this team. He is terrible. Awful.

        The moment he took the field it was over. He is cooked.
        Steelers 27
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        • feltdizz
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          • May 2008
          • 27226

          #19
          Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
          Wanna know another surprising stat that i just read?

          Mason is second in the league with TDs over 60 yards. That?s insane given he only started 3 games.
          kinda shows that other teams aren’t completing these long TD’s like we wanted to believe.

          Its impressive.
          Steelers 27
          Rats 16

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          • SteelerOfDeVille
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            • May 2008
            • 9065

            #20
            Originally posted by Oviedo
            Is it though? How much cap do we have to eat to cut Trubisky?

            Would we/should we if we can't resign Rudolph?
            I still say that you cut Mitch and give Mason that “high end backup/low end starter” type of contract.

            Something like what Jacoby Brisset just earned. I suspect Mason will be worth $7-9 mil per… AND camp will be a true QB1 battle

            This is subject to change if the team pulls an upset or two in these playoffs.
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            • WindyCitySteel
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              • Nov 2011
              • 15528

              #21
              Originally posted by Oviedo
              Is it though? How much cap do we have to eat to cut Trubisky?
              If I'm reading this correctly, his dead cap hit is $3M less than his cap hit if we keep him.

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              • feltdizz
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                • May 2008
                • 27226

                #22
                Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                If I'm reading this correctly, his dead cap hit is $3M less than his cap hit if we keep him.

                https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsbur...rubisky-21743/
                get him away from the team at all cost.. lol.

                If we keep him he has to be in street clothes for 17 games. He zaps the confidence out of the locker room anytime he plays.
                Steelers 27
                Rats 16

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                • Northern_Blitz
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                  • Dec 2008
                  • 23986

                  #23
                  Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                  If I'm reading this correctly, his dead cap hit is $3M less than his cap hit if we keep him.

                  https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsbur...rubisky-21743/
                  I'm never quite sure how they deal with roster bonuses. They usually happen sometime mid-March, so I don't know how they treat them in OTC or sportrac where they let you see pre and post June 1.

                  Here's what I think is important:
                  1. His salary next season is $4.25M.
                  2. He has a roster bonus of $1M (probably due sometime in March)
                  3. He has $4.6M of prorated signing bonus left that hasn't hit the cap yet. We can take that all next season (pre Jun1) or split it between this season and next season (post Jun 1).


                  My guess is that we cut him before his roster bonus is due. That way we're "saving" $5.25 M against the cap. But we take the $4.6M dead money cap hit right away. I know that designating guys as post Jun1 cuts is a thing...but I don't know if you can do that and not pay the roster bonus? The thing I don't get is why OTC has this as almost $3M in cap savings for a pre-Jun1 cut. I think it should be a bit under 1 (5.25 - 4.6). [Edited to add: I think I get it now. I think they only count the prorated money brought forward $2.3 M. Because we'd pay the prorated amount for this year either way.]

                  I think the reason players like roster bonuses is that it means that you can't wait until after Jun 1 without paying them. If we waited until after Jun 1, I think we'd save the $4.6M salary, but pay the $1M roster bonus. Then get the dead money of $2.3M cap hit next season and the season after.

                  Mitchell Trubisky contract and salary cap details, including signing bonus, guaranteed salary, dead money, roster bonuses, and contract history


                  Either way, it seems like we've decided that he's no good to us on the field. So I expect that he'll be cut. And probably before his roster bonus.
                  Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 01-09-2024, 12:55 PM.

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                  • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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                    • May 2008
                    • 10114

                    #24
                    Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                    If I'm reading this correctly, his dead cap hit is $3M less than his cap hit if we keep him.

                    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsbur...rubisky-21743/
                    I posted in another thread but IIRC

                    Pre June 1 - Cap hit $4.6M - Savings approx $3M
                    Post June 1 - Cap hit $2.3M each of next two years - savings $5.25M
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                    • NorthCoast
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                      • Sep 2008
                      • 26228

                      #25
                      Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                      To a degree, read that this is the 8th game he's been a 9.5 pt dog or worse, 1-6 so far, only win last year vs. Tampa.

                      But yeah, in general he does a better job getting the team ready when he feels threatened. When AZ comes to town and the team is winning, he's at his worst and it's never gotten better over the years. It's cost seeding and even playoff appearances over the years.
                      Well it's a lot better than the 12.5 pt as dog against KC in the wildcard game. And that was with Roethlisberger at QB. Let that sink in.

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                      • Northern_Blitz
                        Legend
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 23986

                        #26
                        Originally posted by NorthCoast
                        Well it's a lot better than the 12.5 pt as dog against KC in the wildcard game. And that was with Roethlisberger at QB. Let that sink in.
                        I can't believe we were underdogs when we had a hall of fame QB!!!!

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