Fourth and 1

[NorthCoast]

Giants just had 4th and 1 in the exact same field position as the Steelers. They ran a QB sneak. It was stuffed.

[Eich]

If he steps up a huge hole develops between LT and LG, could have easily gotten the first even if he failed to pull the trigger.

Sure looks that way. He's not reacting correctly to pressure. And I swear, he needs to hire Tom Brady to teach him how to fall. Every time he falls, I wonder if he's going to get up. He hasn't completed a full season and he's had multiple concussions and now a knee.

Somehow, by trying to protect Kenny, Tomlin/Canada have figured out how to most efficiently ruin him.

[NorthCoast]

Sure looks that way. He's not reacting correctly to pressure. And I swear, he needs to hire Tom Brady to teach him how to fall. Every time he falls, I wonder if he's going to get up. He hasn't completed a full season and he's had multiple concussions and now a knee.

Somehow, by trying to protect Kenny, Tomlin/Canada have figured out how to most efficiently ruin him.

Rudolph was ripped for not moving in the pocket. KP is now ripped for moving early. Maybe Trubisky will be the happy hybrid? (assuming he starts next game)?

[Ghost]

Giants just had 4th and 1 in the exact same field position as the Steelers. They ran a QB sneak. It was stuffed.

There is an 83% success rate for QB sneaks.

There has been a 275% increase in the use of the play since it started getting tracked in 2016.

It works and it is criminal that the Steelers do not use it more.

[NorthCoast]

There is an 83% success rate for QB sneaks.

There has been a 275% increase in the use of the play since it started getting tracked in 2016.

It works and it is criminal that the Steelers do not use it more.

Cole was rightly upset after the call. Think about what the OL must have been thinking; 'we're moving these guys off the ball, the run game with Najee is working. We can get this yard with a strong run'. Instead the OC bails on them because he thought they could 'trick' the defense. This was supposed to be a power run team but the are passing at something like 65/35. That's a Roethlisberger offense without a Roethlisberger to throw it.

[pfelix73]

Jones wasn?t responsible for that sack.

Yes, Kenny ran into that sack but its because WR?s were 15 yards downfield and he had already been sacked a few times.

Dumb ass decision and even worse play call AFTER a timeout.

This is why I hate analytics too. Go for it!!! Its what they say. Man, screw that nonsense and kick the FG if you aren?t going to let it hang and get 1 yard with your big back who was running angry that game.

But yet we blame Moore for when the same thing happens. Hmmm

[feltdizz]

But yet we blame Moore for when the same thing happens. Hmmm

cmon.. you know damn well Moore isn’t blamed just for when the QB runs into a sack. Let’s not rewrite history.

[Flasteel]

Canada needs to be let go. At the very least, removed as play-caller and have someone conduct a forensic examination of the playbook to salvage any plays that are intelligently designed. Someone on here said it the other day and I agree...it's a return to the Joe Walton days. It is very likely the worst offense of my entire old-ass life.

Tomlin is ultimately accountable for this. The longer it continues, the more the temperature knob needs to be turned up by AR2.

[Northern_Blitz]

I think going for it was a reasonable call. But lining up in shotgun so you take away the threat of a power run and a sneak (the two plays you should actually run in this case) was idiotic.

And that's on Tomlin IMO. Sure Canada sucks and should be fired. But there's no way that a head coach can't say "that's stupid" on a play like that. Particularly since I think we called a time out.

If they messed with the spot or something and you don't think you can run for a yard (maybe not a terrible assumption given how many negative plays we get), then I think you're right that kicking a FG is a much better call than lining up in shotgun and not running a fast developing play.

[Northern_Blitz]

it was late in the 3rd or early in the 4th.l if I recall. I didn?t get to see the whole game tho due to family business.

Given the way we were playing I think points would?ve given us more momentum. Of course its hindsight and if we make it, its a great call but the play call was so bad it was clearly the wrong decision.

I think the opposite side of this coin is that the offense really sucks, so you know you aren't going to get many chances to score.

I think either call is reasonable...provided you don't run the play we did.

[Northern_Blitz]

Game Situation
After trailing 16-0 at halftime, the Steelers got momentum in the 3rd quarter. They had back-to-back successful drives that ended in FG, cutting the score to 16-6. To that point in the 3rd, the defense had stops and is why the texans were still at 16 points.

The ball was roughly at the 30 yard line. If you kick the FG the score is 16-9, a 7 point game with more than a quarter to play.

4th & 1 at HOU 33

(1:16 - 3rd) (Shotgun) K.Pickett sacked at HST 42 for -9 yards (J.Greenard). PIT-K.Pickett was injured during the play. He is Out.

From the game log. 1 minute left in the 3rd. Down by 10. We will need a TD and a FG to tie if the D holds. But if the D gives up a FG, we need 2 TDs. This was our 8th drive through about 3 quarters. So you assume we'll have 2 or 3 more possessions. We ended up having 2 more drives after this.

PF had recently gotten hurt too I think.

Line up heavy and try to get the yard IMO. "If you can't get a yard, you don't deserve to win".

[NorthCoast]

And that's on Tomlin IMO. Sure Canada sucks and should be fired. But there's no way that a head coach can't say "that's stupid" on a play like that. Particularly since I think we called a time out.

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I don't know about that. When you hire a guy to be OC do you second guess him when you aren't an offensive guru? In some ways I think Tomlin gives his coordinators enough freedom that they either shine or hang themselves. Canada truly is fashioning his own noose at this point.

[Eich]

I had no issue going for it on 4th and 1. But that play call was appalling. If you don't want to sneak or line up heavy, you see teams all the time have some kind of creative call for a situation like this. Make them think run and hit a quick pass.

If you were trying to design a play that could go as wrong as possible for your rookie QB who's seeing ghosts, this was the play.

[Northern_Blitz]

I don't know about that. When you hire a guy to be OC do you second guess him when you aren't an offensive guru? In some ways I think Tomlin gives his coordinators enough freedom that they either shine or hang themselves. Canada truly is fashioning his own noose at this point.

I think he finished making his noose last season.

[Northern_Blitz]

I had no issue going for it on 4th and 1. But that play call was appalling. If you don't want to sneak or line up heavy, you see teams all the time have some kind of creative call for a situation like this. Make them think run and hit a quick pass.

If you were trying to design a play that could go as wrong as possible for your rookie QB who's seeing ghosts, this was the play.

I think this is part of the problem with having Canada live under the Sword of Damocles (any coach really).

If they run and make it, it's the obvious call and no credit goes to the OC.

And we've put him in the position where he needs to get the credit.

So he calls a stupid galaxy brain call. Which fails miserably.

You have to fire someone when they consistently demonstrate they need firing.

Although I think at least part of this is that they don't trust Pickett to throw under center because he's not comfortable doing it. But part of it is incompetence and / or pressure to save his job too.