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  • LPMAN
    Pro Bowler
    • Sep 2021
    • 2032

    Porter Jr Last play

    I hear a lot of people saying we are lucky pass interference wasn't called. Just rewatched the play....gotta say not really. Was it PI? Yes. But there is bad PI & good PI in case you didn't know. WRS get held almost every play. The difference in it being called is the technique. Porter & Peoples-Jones are running stride for stride down the sideline. Porter with inside position first puts his hands on PJ's shoulder pads for the obvious ball fighting position allowed. Then he quickly puts his hands INSIDE & gives a slight tug of jersey. The key here is inside & don't jerk where the player moves unnaturally. Then quickly let go put your hands in the air to play the ball or make it look like you are playing the incoming pass. Done to perfection. The sideline referee has so much to look at. The hand fighting, the ball, the players feet to see if they are in bouinds. If it's an inside quick jersey hold you will get away with that 90% of the time. And as someone else said it beats Levi Wallace being 5 yards off the receiver.
  • BURGH86STEEL
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 6921

    #2
    I don't think anyone could had argued if PI was called.

    Sometimes you get the calls and sometimes you don't.

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    • NorthCoast
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      • Sep 2008
      • 26636

      #3
      Said in another post if I had to make a choice between Wallace's 10 yd cushions and JPJ's 'handsy' play I choose JPJ.

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      • SteelerOfDeVille
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        • May 2008
        • 9069

        #4
        Originally posted by NorthCoast
        Said in another post if I had to make a choice between Wallace's 10 yd cushions and JPJ's 'handsy' play I choose JPJ.
        same. as soon as that play happened, I said "he needs to play more".

        He's going to get some PI. He's going to get burned. But, he plays the WR tight, so he'll have some passes defensed.
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        • "BuzzNuter"
          Pro Bowler
          • Mar 2019
          • 2062

          #5
          That ball was uncatchable. Even so, that type of hand play between receiver and defender is common in today's NFL. Could the ref have called PI, perhaps but the uncatchability led to the no call.

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          • LPMAN
            Pro Bowler
            • Sep 2021
            • 2032

            #6
            Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
            I don't think anyone could had argued if PI was called.

            Sometimes you get the calls and sometimes you don't.
            I really think sopme coaches like Belichick actually teach this technique. I've heard Beli say they can't call PI every play. If you play aggressive likle that but are good the refs look away. Especially if you are in position & look for the ball & raise your hands...remember the 2004 AFCC where the Pats mugged Plaxico Burress on 3rd & goal in EZ? I see other teams getting away with it all the time & they get a rep as a great secondary. Gotta play confident & grab a little IMO.

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            • LPMAN
              Pro Bowler
              • Sep 2021
              • 2032

              #7
              Originally posted by "BuzzNuter"
              That ball was uncatchable. Even so, that type of hand play between receiver and defender is common in today's NFL. Could the ref have called PI, perhaps but the uncatchability led to the no call.
              I'm not so sure it was uncatchable if Peoples-Jones is allowed to lean way out of bounds without being held.

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              • BURGH86STEEL
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                • May 2008
                • 6921

                #8
                Originally posted by LPMAN
                I really think sopme coaches like Belichick actually teach this technique. I've heard Beli say they can't call PI every play. If you play aggressive likle that but are good the refs look away. Especially if you are in position & look for the ball & raise your hands...remember the 2004 AFCC where the Pats mugged Plaxico Burress on 3rd & goal in EZ? I see other teams getting away with it all the time & they get a rep as a great secondary. Gotta play confident & grab a little IMO.
                I think the poor viewing angle by the ref was probably the key to the no call.

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                • papillon
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                  • Mar 2008
                  • 11340

                  #9
                  I'll take that play over a cushion all day long. Sometimes he'll get called and sometimes he won't but regardless, he will be in the neighborhood of the WR and the ball.

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                  • feltdizz
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                    • May 2008
                    • 27532

                    #10
                    If they called PI I don't think anyone would complain besides maybe saying the ball was uncatchable.

                    That being said, I'll take that type of coverage ALL DAY vs Wallace watching to see if the WR makes the catch.

                    Also, I think JPJ used a technique that may have been hard for the ref to see given the angle. JPJ should be starting over Wallace next game. That dude is a liability. The long run was totally on him too, how can you be that close and not attempt a tackle?
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                    • Joel Buchsbaum
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                      • Jan 2021
                      • 7744

                      #11
                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      If they called PI I don't think anyone would complain besides maybe saying the ball was uncatchable.

                      That being said, I'll take that type of coverage ALL DAY vs Wallace watching to see if the WR makes the catch.

                      Also, I think JPJ used a technique that may have been hard for the ref to see given the angle. JPJ should be starting over Wallace next game. That dude is a liability. The long run was totally on him too, how can you be that close and not attempt a tackle?
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                      • feltdizz
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                        • May 2008
                        • 27532

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                        I think he will start soon.

                        I was a bit confused but I see you edited.. lol.

                        I agree. Dude made plays last night. He did miss a tackle on the TE but he wasn't the only one on that play. But JPJ made plays last night and was in WR's back pockets on damn near every pass I watched him defend.
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                        • Chucktownsteeler
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                          • May 2008
                          • 6849

                          #13
                          Originally posted by papillon
                          I'll take that play over a cushion all day long. Sometimes he'll get called and sometimes he won't but regardless, he will be in the neighborhood of the WR and the ball.

                          Pappy
                          Correct, with the cushion good chance the pass is complete. PI May or may not be called and/ or pass can be defended.
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                          • Terrapin
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Sep 2017
                            • 2081

                            #14
                            I didn't think it was PI whatsoever?

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                            • SteelerOfDeVille
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                              • May 2008
                              • 9069

                              #15
                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              The long run was totally on him too, how can you be that close and not attempt a tackle?
                              forgot about that play... As the CB, he had weakside contain and let the man get outside him... from grade school, you're taught to funnel the guy back inside and DO NOT lose contain.
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