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  • Steeler Shades
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    • May 2008
    • 724

    1-4 @ home because we showed too much?

    Does anyone else think the Steelers have struggled with home playoff games because we didn't hide enough from opposing teams during the regular season? If we showed too much to get into the playoffs wouldn't we have the same problem on the road? I'm not talking specifically about this year but in the last 5 home playoff games....... have we lost them because we didn't have enough to confuse the opponents?


    Originally posted by feltdizz
    You know what happens when you throw the sink to get homefield? you go 1-4 at home cause you have nothing know to confuse the opponents.
    Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity
  • Wolfhound45
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    • May 2008
    • 786

    #2
    Re: 1-4 @ home because we showed too much?

    I do. I think that we have tipped our hand much too early in the past when it came to potential playoff matchups. At some point you have to play the regular season with an eye towards the postseason. It is a delicate balance which we have not mastered in the past. In this instance, I don't think it will help much. We are just not as good a team as we need to be in the playoffs. Too many issues with our OL and running game will hold us back.
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    • Flasteel
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 4004

      #3
      Re: 1-4 @ home because we showed too much?

      How can we not have something new? Our offense is about as predictable as weather in the Sahara and has the imagination of a retarded monkey. Unless BA trimmed the playbook down to the size of Hardy Brothers mystery novel, there has to be tons of plays in our back pocket. Unfortunately we'll probably trot out the same stuff we have all year and just hope that our guys beat theirs.
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      • Ozey74
        Pro Bowler
        • May 2008
        • 2091

        #4
        Re: 1-4 @ home because we showed too much?

        This is a new Steeler team under Coach Tomlin. What was done in the past was done in the Cowher era. I know we lost last year at home in the playoffs to the Jags, but we were expected to since we were a 1.5 or 2 pt underdog.

        We will go into the playoffs this year with a bad-a$$ D & are more rested as a team.

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        • Steeler Shades
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          • May 2008
          • 724

          #5
          Re: 1-4 @ home because we showed too much?

          If we have actually "showed too much" during the regular season in the past, wouldn't our road playoff record be just as bad as our home playoff record?
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          • BURGH86STEEL
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            • May 2008
            • 6921

            #6
            Re: 1-4 @ home because we showed too much?

            Originally posted by Steeler Shades
            Does anyone else think the Steelers have struggled with home playoff games because we didn't hide enough from opposing teams during the regular season? If we showed too much to get into the playoffs wouldn't we have the same problem on the road? I'm not talking specifically about this year but in the last 5 home playoff games....... have we lost them because we didn't have enough to confuse the opponents?


            Originally posted by feltdizz
            You know what happens when you throw the sink to get homefield? you go 1-4 at home cause you have nothing know to confuse the opponents.
            Steelers have struggled with home playoff losses because they gave the ball away. It is really that simple.

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            • Steeler Shades
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              • May 2008
              • 724

              #7
              Re: 1-4 @ home because we showed too much?

              Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
              Originally posted by feltdizz
              You know what happens when you throw the sink to get homefield? you go 1-4 at home cause you have nothing know to confuse the opponents.
              Steelers have struggled with home playoff losses because they gave the ball away. It is really that simple.
              TOs have killed us in the playoffs. Why haven't TOs killed us on the road? Actually other than 2005 how many road playoff games have we played during the time we were 1-4 at home?
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              • NKySteeler
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 3111

                #8
                Re: 1-4 @ home because we showed too much?

                Originally posted by Steeler Shades
                Actually other than 2005 how many road playoff games have we played during the time we were 1-4 at home?
                What timeframe are you looking at with an overall 1-4 home record?... Are you looking at only championship games?.... Or was it just a "hypothetical" question...

                Since Cowher came to town, here's our playoff history... Personally, to answer the question, I think it is simply bad luck and coincidence... As you already noted, we haven't played much on the road.

                We were 0-1 at home in '07
                We were 3-0 on the road in '05
                We were 1-1 at home in '04
                We were 1-0 at home and 0-1 on the road in '02
                We were 1-1 at home in '01
                We were 1-1 at home in '97
                We were 1-0 at home and 0-1 on the road in '96
                We were 2-0 at home in '95
                We were 1-1 at home in '94
                We were 0-1 on the road in '93
                We were 0-1 at home in '92
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                • Wolfhound45
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                  • May 2008
                  • 786

                  #9
                  Re: 1-4 @ home because we showed too much?

                  Originally posted by Steeler Shades
                  If we have actually "showed too much" during the regular season in the past, wouldn't our road playoff record be just as bad as our home playoff record?
                  Though you used the example of our home playoff record, the reality is that you have to be careful regardless as to whether you play at home or on the road. I would agree with other posters that our offensive play calling is just offensive. Nothing more needs to be said. However, our defensive play calling is fairly innovative and you should show only the most basic of sets and coverages when you in in the final quarter of the season and preparing for the playoffs.

                  Again, a delicate balance.
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                  • costanza2k1
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 2579

                    #10
                    Re: 1-4 @ home because we showed too much?

                    That's a good theory and some of it maybe true. I think we've lost the home games because we've done the same things and not mixed it up enough. In the Bill Cowher days we ran on 1st and 2nd down and pass on the 3rd downs. The only 2 times we didn't do it was in 95 and 05 and we all know where we ended it up then.

                    I guess the question should be, how will the Steelers mix it up this time around? Put in some bubbas and a FB and shove it down the opposing teams throats, even if unsuccessful. It will be interesting for sure.

                    I don't think Arians is capable of doing any type of mixing up to be honest. He has a great 15 scripted plays but then falls apart after that once he needs to be creative. He's the opposite of Lebeau. I do think the defense has held a lot back during the season which is pretty damn scary. We just haven't used a whole lot exotic bliztes, just seemed to line up and put together a beat down most of the time. The playoffs will be interesting.
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                    • stlrz d
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 9244

                      #11
                      Re: 1-4 @ home because we showed too much?

                      Originally posted by NKySteeler
                      Originally posted by Steeler Shades
                      Actually other than 2005 how many road playoff games have we played during the time we were 1-4 at home?
                      What timeframe are you looking at with an overall 1-4 home record?... Are you looking at only championship games?.... Or was it just a "hypothetical" question...

                      Since Cowher came to town, here's our playoff history... Personally, to answer the question, I think it is simply bad luck and coincidence... As you already noted, we haven't played much on the road.

                      We were 0-1 at home in '07
                      We were 3-0 on the road in '05
                      We were 1-1 at home in '04
                      We were 1-0 at home and 0-1 on the road in '02
                      We were 1-1 at home in '01
                      We were 1-1 at home in '97
                      We were 1-0 at home and 0-1 on the road in '96
                      We were 2-0 at home in '95
                      We were 1-1 at home in '94
                      We were 0-1 on the road in '93
                      We were 0-1 at home in '92
                      Shame on you for being too lazy to do all that research and typing...and then not totaling them up! :P

                      Ok, from '92 to '07 we are 8-6 at home and 4-4 on the road*. 12-10 overall.

                      *I added in SB XXX (road loss) and SB XL (road win).

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                      • Steeler Shades
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                        • May 2008
                        • 724

                        #12
                        Re: 1-4 @ home because we showed too much?

                        I was trying to determine whether the following statement was accurate. The poster did not give the time frame he was referencing. Thanks for doing the research & math.
                        Originally posted by feltdizz
                        You know what happens when you throw the sink to get homefield? you go 1-4 at home cause you have nothing know to confuse the opponents.
                        Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity

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                        • NKySteeler
                          Hall of Famer
                          • May 2008
                          • 3111

                          #13
                          Re: 1-4 @ home because we showed too much?

                          Originally posted by stlrz d
                          Shame on you for being too lazy to do all that research and typing...and then not totaling them up!
                          .........

                          ... I actually was going to do so... But you're right, I got lazy..... But my point was that we really haven't been on the road too much if you toss out '05.
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                          • NKySteeler
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                            • May 2008
                            • 3111

                            #14
                            Re: 1-4 @ home because we showed too much?

                            Originally posted by Steeler Shades
                            I was trying to determine whether the following statement was accurate. The poster did not give the time frame he was referencing. Thanks for doing the research & math.
                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            You know what happens when you throw the sink to get homefield? you go 1-4 at home cause you have nothing know to confuse the opponents.
                            Well, given the numbers, I really don't see thier position...

                            Personally, I don't think it is a matter of "showing all the cards" during the season, but more of just plain and simple coincidence... Stuff happens, and most of our playoff games during more closer years were at home. It's bound to happen. Heck, we probably should've won 1 or 2 of those home games, but I'm not going to bring Korky into the equation... Also, there were several plays that got us wins on the road (the trick play in Cincy in '05 stands out to me).

                            If anyone wants to complain about what Cowher brought to the table and where he took this team (win or lose in the playoffs), I have only one thing to say.... It could have been a helluva lot worse over those years... Be thankful that we didn't have someone like Bruce Coslett as a head coach.
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                            • SanAntonioSteelerFan
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                              • May 2008
                              • 8361

                              #15
                              Re: 1-4 @ home because we showed too much?

                              Am I the only one who thinks of film crews and the *s when I read this thread?


                              We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!

                              HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!

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