Depressing article -- has anything changed in a decade?

[whisper]

Tomlin only hires the bad ones right?

Straw man argument. MT doesn't hire or fire coordinators.

[feltdizz]

It was in 2010 our super bowl loss vs Packers.2011 was the year they lost to Tebow in the playoffs

thanks for the correction

[feltdizz]

Going back over a decade to dig up articles to get upset about?
Come on my Steeler brother.

Looks like the best draft in years. Natural growth from our young receivers, tight end and ESPECIALLY a QB we both like. Nice additions on both lines. Arrow is pointing UP.

We talkin 2012?

It is like we are TRYING to be depressed.

lmao.. weird.

why stop at 2012? I'm sure there is an article about a loss in 2009, 2011, etc.

You really have to pressed to dig up a random loss in 2012 as a reason to be mad a decade later

[Blitzer]

Remember the Houston debacle game.
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[Polamalubeast]

Remember the Houston debacle game.
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2002 or 2011?...Both were a disaster!

[Captain Lemming]

Straw man argument. MT doesn't hire or fire coordinators.

I got no beef if you are consistent.

When you say it is obvious THAT was a Rooney hire, the clear implication BY YOU is that the reference is to that singular hire, as opposed to other coordinators.

I appreciate the clarification.

I tend to think Tomlin hires them but quite possibly cannot fire them since as you correctly note Rooney tends to let contracts run their course and not re-sign bad ones.

That said, if Rooney does indeed choose coordinators as you suggest here, it is kinda hard to blame Tomlin for the bad ones.

[feltdizz]

I got no beef if you are consistent.

When you say it is obvious THAT was a Rooney hire, the clear implication BY YOU is that the reference is to that singular hire, as opposed to other coordinators.

I appreciate the clarification.

I tend to think Tomlin hires them but quite possibly cannot fire them since as you correctly note Rooney tends to let contracts run their course and not re-sign bad ones.

That said, if Rooney does indeed choose coordinators as you suggest here, it is kinda hard to blame Tomlin for the bad ones.

If they like the guy its a Rooney hire, if they hate the guy its because Tomlin owed them a favor or they lived in Virginia or Maryland at some point and time.

[Steel Maniac]

well, Detroit felt he was good enough for a 3 year 33 mill contract. Serviceable CB?s dont get those types of contracts.

Could care less about the make believe buddy you are probably lying on since you wont say their name.

Detriot is also took a RB with the # 12 pick in the draft too. That was moronic too. Since when do we base good moves on what Detroit Lions do? An organization who's made bad decisions for the last 50 years. And HOF players quiting in their primes because of the ineptitude of the franchise. Wow. So that's where we are now? Using the Lions decisions to justify our players? Oh, how the mighty have fallen. LOL

[Real Deal Steel]

whats funny is most fans seemed to dislike Haley greatly.

But Canada is making fans love Haley in nostalgia.

[whisper]

I got no beef if you are consistent.

When you say it is obvious THAT was a Rooney hire, the clear implication BY YOU is that the reference is to that singular hire, as opposed to other coordinators.

I appreciate the clarification.

I tend to think Tomlin hires them but quite possibly cannot fire them since as you correctly note Rooney tends to let contracts run their course and not re-sign bad ones.

That said, if Rooney does indeed choose coordinators as you suggest here, it is kinda hard to blame Tomlin for the bad ones.

I didn't say Tomlin didn't influence hires, especially one where the guy got his kid a full scholarship. But the past is cram full of examples where it is obvious Rooney was making the call. The Arians debacle? Bruce mysteriously "retired" only to come out and say he never said that. Rooney didn't want the blood on his hands which is why it's always a mystery on who is hiring/firing. Todd Haley's dad had connections with the team. Gee, I wonder who made that hire?

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/pittsburgh-steelers-nfl-features-news-blog-long-form/2016/6/22/11987100/how-dick-haley-father-of-todd-haley-helped-create-the-legacy-of-the

Lebeau was clearly a Rooney firing. Right up before he got axed Tomlin said he wanted him back; what happened? It's clear Rooneys don't trust Tomin's judgement in hiring and firing coordinators. It's so obvious.

[feltdizz]

Detriot is also took a RB with the # 12 pick in the draft too. That was moronic too. Since when do we base good moves on what Detroit Lions do? An organization who's made bad decisions for the last 50 years. And HOF players quiting in their primes because of the ineptitude of the franchise. Wow. So that's where we are now? Using the Lions decisions to justify our players? Oh, how the mighty have fallen. LOL

Cam Sutton was a top 25 FA in most 2023 rankings. Doesn’t matter where Detroit ranks as a franchise. That’s like saying Barry Sanders and Megatron weren’t talents because Detroit drafted them. Was Suh not a good player because Detroit drafted him? That’s silly.

[feltdizz]

and Lebeau went on to do what after we let him go?

Dude is a fabulous coach but I think the game passed him by due to the way younger players process information. I think when Lebeau has his guys the D is fantastic, but when you have to insert rookies in a rebuild it can lead to some serious confusion.

[Polamalubeast]

Detriot is also took a RB with the # 12 pick in the draft too. That was moronic too. Since when do we base good moves on what Detroit Lions do? An organization who's made bad decisions for the last 50 years. And HOF players quiting in their primes because of the ineptitude of the franchise. Wow. So that's where we are now? Using the Lions decisions to justify our players? Oh, how the mighty have fallen. LOL

I believe, now the lions have a good front office....we need to see the results, but they have improved a lot last year, so hopefully for them, they will take another step forward this year

One thing is certain, their current front office which has only been with the lions since 2021 have nothing to do with the struggles the lions have had in the last 60 years or so!

[Polamalubeast]

and Lebeau went on to do what after we let him go?

Dude is a fabulous coach but I think the game passed him by due to the way younger players process information. I think when Lebeau has his guys the D is fantastic, but when you have to insert rookies in a rebuild it can lead to some serious confusion.

I always thought the zone blitz was outdated since around 2011...Packers under Dom Capers had the same problem, especially in the playoffs, when it was always a disaster in the playoffs for their defense under Capers after their superbowl in 2010

LeBeau was a great coach for a long time, but it was time for a change but unfortunately for the steelers, Butler was not good.

[Real Deal Steel]

I believe, now the lions have a good front office....we need to see the results, but they have improved a lot last year, so hopefully for them, they will take another step forward this year

One thing is certain, their current front office which has only been with the lions since 2021 have nothing to do with the struggles the lions have had in the last 60 years or so!

I like you believing in the Lions. Load knows those fans have suffered a long time but the Lions didn't make the playoffs last year so I don't see how their so good. They were more prolific but losing flashy and losing bad is still losing.