Will Tomlin ever start Rudolph again?

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Well? I hate to admit this. He did play better as starter for the Steelers. We had a winning record in games he played, the offense scored more often , and he has a positive TD to INT ratio.

How would you compare him to Pickett and Trubisky? The replies here could be very interesting.


https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RudoMa00.htm

[WindyCitySteel]

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

Rudolph's 2019 PFF grade was 20+ points lower than Pickett in 2022.

[Captain Lemming]

Well? I hate to admit this. He did play better as starter for the Steelers. We had a winning record in games he played, the offense scored more often , and he has a positive TD to INT ratio.

How would you compare him to Pickett and Trubisky? The replies here could be very interesting.


https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RudoMa00.htm

In addition to what Windy said.
Your premise COMPLETELY DISMISSES that Pickett started HORRIBLY as is understandable for a raw rookie suddenly thrown to the wolves. To not acknowledge his trend upwards leads to a wrong assessment. His whole record makes it look like he is an interception machine (many of those picks were on his receivers). But he closed just the opposite, as the QB least likely to throw a pick.

By seasons end Kenny was clearly better than Mason has EVER played.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

Rudolph's 2019 PFF grade was 20+ points lower than Pickett in 2022.

I was not aware PFF is an authority. Rudolph's 2019 NFL QB rating as a starter was better than Pickett. Now are you going to issue baseless insults or talk football?

This is not a right or wrong thread, it's a compare and contrast thread.

[flippy]

If we need to start the QB that most looks like giant Sidney Crosby or the guy that can take his own helmet to the head like Rocky took punches from Drago, the Rudolf all day every day over Pickett. I?d be right there with you on the Rudolph train.

In every other scenario, I would stick with KMFP.

[WindyCitySteel]

I was not aware PFF is an authority. Rudolph's 2019 NFL QB rating as a starter was better than Pickett. Now are you going to issue baseless insults or talk football?

This is not a right or wrong thread, it's a compare and contrast thread.

QB rating is a worthless 1970's stat that nobody takes seriously anymore, nobody with any knowledge of the complexity of the position and NFL offense, that is.

In almost every thread now you out yourself as someone who doesn't watch football outside of the Red Zone channel, you just look at fantasy tallies and box scores.

[Captain Lemming]

I was not aware PFF is an authority. Rudolph's 2019 NFL QB rating as a starter was better than Pickett. Now are you going to issue baseless insults or talk football?

This is not a right or wrong thread, it's a compare and contrast thread.

I am no fan of pff. But there is merit in not judging QBs based on passes that BOUNCE OFF RECEIVERS HANDS into the hands of an opponent. Or a PERFECTLY THROWN hail Mary (which always has a high risk of interception) where the receiver falls down rather than run through to catch a perfectly thrown bomb. And THAT was before Pickett started playing better.

While you do ask a question, your framing of it expresses your flawed opinion that others WILL address directly.

[Captain Lemming]

QB rating is a worthless 1970's stat that nobody takes seriously anymore, nobody with any knowledge of the complexity of the position and NFL offense, that is.

In almost every thread now you out yourself as someone who doesn't watch football outside of the Red Zone channel, you just look at fantasy tallies and box scores.

Nah, I think a well rounded evaluation involves both.
Kenny was better than his QB rating true. Pffs methods show this accurately.

In Kennys best games his best attribute is his clutch. Did he have the kind of elite level play THROUGH ENTIRE GAMES that his score via those pff metrics imply? Not at all. You'd think he'd have a single game with 4 touchdowns dropped (like Pickens dropped bomb) for than to be true.

To treat pff like is is the it the infallible word that comes from heaven is equally ridiculous.

[Blitzer]

I would compare Mason to Kenny as the backup. He backs the starter up. It is a good thing to have 3 QBs with starter experience. But Kenny is the starter. and will be for years to come. Injury is the only thing that will take him out of the lineup

[whisper]

In addition to what Windy said.
Your premise COMPLETELY DISMISSES that Pickett started HORRIBLY as is understandable for a raw rookie suddenly thrown to the wolves. To not acknowledge his trend upwards leads to a wrong assessment. His whole record makes it look like he is an interception machine (many of those picks were on his receivers). But he closed just the opposite, as the QB least likely to throw a pick.

By seasons end Kenny was clearly better than Mason has EVER played.

Kenny had the 2nd lowest QB rating of any eligible QB who played in 2022. Let me repeat that: Kenny had the 2nd lowest QB rating of any eligible QB who played in 2022, 2nd lowest to only Wilson of the Jets. So before we get all braggadocious of how great Kenny played, pump the brakes.

[NorthCoast]

Why would he start Rudolph when QB#2 is the better choice if KP went down? Rudolph is an OK backup but not a starter.

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[WindyCitySteel]

Nah, I think a well rounded evaluation involves both.
Kenny was better than his QB rating true. Pffs methods show this accurately.

In Kennys best games his best attribute is his clutch. Did he have the kind of elite level play THROUGH ENTIRE GAMES that his score via those pff metrics imply? Not at all. You'd think he'd have a single game with 4 touchdowns dropped (like Pickens dropped bomb) for than to be true.

To treat pff like is is the it the infallible word that comes from heaven is equally ridiculous.

PFF isn't infallible, but it's light years ahead of "passer rating".

[Blitzer]

I was wondering how long a thread about Mason was going to turn into thread 307 or is it 308 bashing Kenny.

["BuzzNuter"]

I don't understand these Mason Rudolph threads. This is what Mason's 5th or 6th year, correct?
If he was any good there would be no Kenny Pickett on the Pittsburgh Steelers. Simple as that.

They only have him for catastrophic insurance. You know the kind you get for someone breaking their neck on your property. What do you call it blanket policy?

[Captain Lemming]

I was wondering how long a thread about Mason was going to turn into thread 307 or is it 308 bashing Kenny.

It STARTED as a thread to bash Kenny.