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  • Joel Buchsbaum
    Legend
    • Jan 2021
    • 7744

    Kenny Picket. Your forecast.

    Take the poll

    Pickett will be a bust and back up player in 2024

    Pickett will be a game manager type of quarterback, the type you do not give a lucrative second contract to and ultimately need to replace.

    Pickett will be a good NFL starting quarterback. Top 15 - 20 , and you can win games with him if you surround him with good talent. But nothing beyond that.

    Pickett will be a top 12 qb. Very good.

    Pickett will be a franchise qb.
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    Pickett will be a bust and back up player in 2024
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    Pickett will be a game manager type of quarterback.
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    Pickett will be a good NFL starting quarterback. Top 14 - 20.
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    Pickett will be a top 13 qb. Very good.
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    Pickett will be a franchise qb.
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    Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

    Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

    *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***
  • Northern_Blitz
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 24373

    #2
    I voted 14-20 and my answer is for predicting his performance this season, not his career. Hopefully I'm underestimating.

    But I think it's worth noting that the descriptions you have don't match up with the rankings IMO. I think all of the wording is for the next category (i.e. being the 13th ranked QB doesn't mean that you're "very good" in the NFL IMO).

    I think the problem for us is also that whatever his league wide ranking is, it will look worse when you compare to the AFC QBs (which is who'll we'll be playing in the playoffs). It's going to be hard to do anything if we make it to the playoffs because the QB talent is pretty lopsided IMO.

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    • WindyCitySteel
      Legend
      • Nov 2011
      • 15684

      #3
      I think he can have a very good year and still not be recognized as a top QB, kind of like early Ben, because the offense is designed to slug it out and not put up stats for the QB, any QB.

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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27532

        #4
        Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
        I think he can have a very good year and still not be recognized as a top QB, kind of like early Ben, because the offense is designed to slug it out and not put up stats for the QB, any QB.
        This!! If the defense is stout I don’t expect us to “turn Kenny loose” but I do expect his RZ efficiency and mid/long range to improve.
        Steelers 27
        Rats 16

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        • Chucktownsteeler
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 6849

          #5
          I kind of see 25-26 TDs., 8 ints., 3,700 yards passing, 4 rushing TDs.
          Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

          I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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          • Blitzer
            Pro Bowler
            • Nov 2022
            • 1073

            #6
            I voted Not as good as Warren. But better than Harris of course.

            This year top 15-20 next year and beyond top 12 at worst.

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            • WindyCitySteel
              Legend
              • Nov 2011
              • 15684

              #7
              Originally posted by Chucktownsteeler
              I kind of see 25-26 TDs., 8 ints., 3,700 yards passing, 4 rushing TDs.
              Ben didn't throw 20+ TDs until year 4, only had that many twice in his first 7 seasons. This offense will be more conservative (and moronically simple) than that one, too -- I'm thinking 16-18 TD, 5-7 INTs, 3000 yards.

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              • Joel Buchsbaum
                Legend
                • Jan 2021
                • 7744

                #8
                Originally posted by Chucktownsteeler
                I kind of see 25-26 TDs., 8 ints., 3,700 yards passing, 4 rushing TDs.
                I'll hope for that.

                Assuming he plays in all 17 games, which if a big if, I see 3,585 yards thrown. 20 TD's, 15 interceptions. This is a glass half full kind of call. First he must not knocked out of games which he was twice as a rookie playing about 12 games. Once you suffer mule KO's, the next one comes easier. Secondly he must show a big improvement form last year. Realistically I see less that that.

                Most here predict a franchise type of QB. Um, okay if your believe that so be it. I will bump this ahead at the end if the season to see who is right and who is wrong.

                Thank for your call, Chuck. Anyone else?
                Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                • feltdizz
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 27532

                  #9
                  Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                  Ben didn't throw 20+ TDs until year 4, only had that many twice in his first 7 seasons. This offense will be more conservative (and moronically simple) than that one, too -- I'm thinking 16-18 TD, 5-7 INTs, 3000 yards.
                  Ben also threw 17 TD’s in both years he won a SB. He threw 21 in 2011 when we lost a SB.

                  If the D is playing well, you don’t have to throw a ton of TD’s to win games. Get the lead and burn clock.
                  Steelers 27
                  Rats 16

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                  • Joel Buchsbaum
                    Legend
                    • Jan 2021
                    • 7744

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                    I voted 14-20 and my answer is for predicting his performance this season, not his career. Hopefully I'm underestimating.

                    But I think it's worth noting that the descriptions you have don't match up with the rankings IMO. I think all of the wording is for the next category (i.e. being the 13th ranked QB doesn't mean that you're "very good" in the NFL IMO).

                    I think the problem for us is also that whatever his league wide ranking is, it will look worse when you compare to the AFC QBs (which is who'll we'll be playing in the playoffs). It's going to be hard to do anything if we make it to the playoffs because the QB talent is pretty lopsided IMO.
                    The character space is limit on the polls. But I agree with you on the playoffs.

                    Bottom 15 in QB ratings according to passer ratings, yards thrown, and under 20 td's thrown is my call. Fell free to expand on yours.
                    Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                    Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                    *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                    • Chucktownsteeler
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 6849

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                      I'll hope for that.

                      Assuming he plays in all 17 games, which if a big if, I see 3,585 yards thrown. 20 TD's, 15 interceptions. This is a glass half full kind of call. First he must not knocked out of games which he was twice as a rookie playing about 12 games. Once you suffer mule KO's, the next one comes easier. Secondly he must show a big improvement form last year. Realistically I see less that that.

                      Most here predict a franchise type of QB. Um, okay if your believe that so be it. I will bump this ahead at the end if the season to see who is right and who is wrong.

                      Thank for your call, Chuck. Anyone else?
                      He's too smart to throw that many ints. Plus OL and WR group has been improved. Pickens will make a jump and Robinson will be clutch. Big TE targets.

                      Plus Claypool is gone, I can lay 4 ints. last year at his feet alone. Notice the W-L improvement and KP8 development after he left?

                      How many games did the Bears win after they got Claypool? It rhymes with hero.

                      Big loser here is "Wrong Way" Diontae. I think his playing time and targets will drop significantly.

                      The future is bright.
                      Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

                      I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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                      • SteelerOfDeVille
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 9069

                        #12
                        Because the question is says what kind of QB will he "become", I voted with long-term in mind.

                        I placed him at top 13, but not franchise...

                        I guess the real question is what defines franchise QB? I think we'd all agree that Brady, Brees, Manning, Roethlisberger and Rodgers were franchise QB...

                        What about Eli Manning? I think guys like that will be his peer grouping. Never elite statistically, but capable of making enough clutch plays if the surrounding cast is good.
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                        • Steellamb86
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2023
                          • 1

                          #13
                          Top 14-20...I voted for THIS year...long term I think he will be our franchise QB!

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                          • Djfan
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 5184

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Chucktownsteeler
                            He's too smart to throw that many ints. Plus OL and WR group has been improved. Pickens will make a jump and Robinson will be clutch. Big TE targets.

                            Plus Claypool is gone, I can lay 4 ints. last year at his feet alone. Notice the W-L improvement and KP8 development after he left?

                            How many games did the Bears win after they got Claypool? It rhymes with hero.

                            Big loser here is "Wrong Way" Diontae. I think his playing time and targets will drop significantly.

                            The future is bright.
                            This is exactly where I am at with him. Not a HOFer, but not a bust. He will win games and get paid in a range that allows great talent around him. My real bet is that he is someone that we will be glad to have on our team, and glad we didn't give him Lamar money.

                            I voted "top 13"
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                            • feltdizz
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 27532

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
                              Because the question is says what kind of QB will he "become", I voted with long-term in mind.

                              I placed him at top 13, but not franchise...

                              I guess the real question is what defines franchise QB? I think we'd all agree that Brady, Brees, Manning, Roethlisberger and Rodgers were franchise QB...

                              What about Eli Manning? I think guys like that will be his peer grouping. Never elite statistically, but capable of making enough clutch plays if the surrounding cast is good.
                              I don’t think your description matches what a franchise QB entails.

                              Eli was definitely a franchise QB. He played for 14 straight seasons and won 2 SB’s. Franchise doesn’t mean elite with stats that are consistently top 10 most years.

                              To me a franchise QB is anyone who has a firm grip on the position for multiple contracts.
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                              Rats 16

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