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  • whisper
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    • Mar 2020
    • 9423

    Bell gives Najee good advice



    Drop some lbs. It worked for Bell. Najee is too bulky and slow and his ypc proves it. This isn't college and you aren't running behind Alabama's OL in college. He should be coming in at 225, not 240.
  • Steelerphile
    Pro Bowler
    • Dec 2008
    • 1198

    #2
    I'm glad to see more people weighing in on this. This is going to work its way back to Harris and maybe the voices saying drop the weight, to at least 230 will start to make some kind of impression and difference to him. I'd be a little more excited about him if he would take heed.
    Last edited by Steelerphile; 06-18-2023, 07:14 PM.

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    • SS Laser
      Pro Bowler
      • Apr 2009
      • 1929

      #3
      I disagree NH game is power and strength. I believe it was last off-season or his rookie year. He always looks ripped and shredded. So low low body fat. Why lose muscle?
      if he is slow anyway might as well bulk up more to handle the punishment he takes.
      No need to change his approach physically. Now he showed second half of the season he need to just hit the hole. Like Conner. North south runner. NO DANCING. THATS NOT HIS GAME. North south runner is easier for the Oline also. Do there job and open the hole.

      Bell was to heavy for his style coming in. He was a tad more shifty, better feet, possibly vision and a tad faster. So he could dance a little or wait for a hole to open. But the Oline had to work harder for his style. Can’t remember which linemen mentioned Bell made it tricky for them blocking. His patience to wait then hit the hole.

      just my 02c

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      • Mr.wizard
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        • May 2014
        • 6686

        #4
        Najee is fine just watch the run from the Cincy game last year, guy gets outside and then hurdles a defender from like 4 yards out and Flys into the endzone.

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        • BURGH86STEEL
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          • May 2008
          • 6921

          #5
          Najee isn't a speed back. Najee was at his best in the 2nd half the season running through defenders instead of attempting to juke defenders.

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          • Steelerphile
            Pro Bowler
            • Dec 2008
            • 1198

            #6
            Najee probably thinks like most of the people here and that is why he probably won't become a highly efficient running back. Running backs have to have speed, that is part of the job requirements especially at the NFL level. There is a right balance to be sought between size, power and speed. A really good running back is able to do much more than run North south and just go through a hole three yards wide. That's why the people who say that another HOF running back wouldn't average 3.0 behind the line that Najee averaged 3.9 behind are very wrong.

            The great back has the ability shift his direction and find another opening if a hole three yards wide doesn't present itself as the play was designed. The great back also has a burst to turn that into a bigger play. Najee should be seeking more than the "He's fine" with his 3.9 - 4.0 and low efficiency stats. But He probably play again around 240, since that seems to make his fans happy.
            Last edited by Steelerphile; 06-19-2023, 06:08 AM.

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            • Joel Buchsbaum
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              • Jan 2021
              • 7744

              #7
              Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
              Najee isn't a speed back. Najee was at his best in the 2nd half the season running through defenders instead of attempting to juke defenders.
              In NFL football, the heavier a back is, the slower he runs. IMO Najee Harris is a 4.6 + guy. In NFL football the heavier a man is, the slower he accelerates. Najee gaining 20 pounds or so did not help him.
              Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

              Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

              *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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              • whisper
                Legend
                • Mar 2020
                • 9423

                #8
                Originally posted by Mr.wizard
                Najee is fine just watch the run from the Cincy game last year, guy gets outside and then hurdles a defender from like 4 yards out and Flys into the endzone.
                Oh great, we are gonna base the total assessment of Najee off ONE run? Brilliant.

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                • whisper
                  Legend
                  • Mar 2020
                  • 9423

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                  In NFL football, the heavier a back is, the slower he runs. IMO Najee Harris is a 4.6 + guy. In NFL football the heavier a man is, the slower he accelerates. Najee gaining 20 pounds or so did not help him.
                  Najee thinks this is college and he can just bully his way through carries. It ain't, it's the NFL. NO ONE is so big and bad that they can just muscle their way through carries in the NFL. The RB will lose that contest.

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                  • whisper
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2020
                    • 9423

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                    In NFL football, the heavier a back is, the slower he runs. IMO Najee Harris is a 4.6 + guy. In NFL football the heavier a man is, the slower he accelerates. Najee gaining 20 pounds or so did not help him.
                    4.6? More like 4.7 or 4.8.

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                    • BURGH86STEEL
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 6921

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                      In NFL football, the heavier a back is, the slower he runs. IMO Najee Harris is a 4.6 + guy. In NFL football the heavier a man is, the slower he accelerates. Najee gaining 20 pounds or so did not help him.
                      Bettis had plenty of success in his time and roles with the Steelers. Najee appeared to improve during the 2nd half of the 2022 season.

                      Let's see how the 2023 season comes together for a number of players for the Steelers.

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                      • SteelerOfDeVille
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                        • May 2008
                        • 9069

                        #12
                        Originally posted by whisper
                        Oh great, we are gonna base the total assessment of Najee off ONE run? Brilliant.
                        how about we see him behind an legit nfl line before we make an assessment at all...
                        2013 MNF Executive Champion!

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                        • Joel Buchsbaum
                          Legend
                          • Jan 2021
                          • 7744

                          #13
                          Originally posted by whisper
                          4.6? More like 4.7 or 4.8.
                          I would guess his speed is similar to James Conner, a 4.65 40 yard dash guy. Either way you will have a hard time finding a slower starting running back in the NFL.

                          Slug Harris
                          Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                          Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                          *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                          • SteelerOfDeVille
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 9069

                            #14
                            Truth be told on this, LevBell's advice on this isn't horrible. Being that he is more of a power back than a speed back, it wouldn't hurt to add .1 to that 40 time. Also a small change in running style probably is better for life after football.
                            2013 MNF Executive Champion!

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                            • whisper
                              Legend
                              • Mar 2020
                              • 9423

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
                              how about we see him behind an legit nfl line before we make an assessment at all...
                              Excuse me, but 2 years of playing seems like pretty good analysis for a RB, good OL or not. Do you really think with the better OL najee is gonna break out for 5 ypc all of a sudden? Some do. I say he's too slow to produce those kind of #s.

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