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  • NorthCoast
    Legend
    • Sep 2008
    • 26636

    KP: This Might Not Sit Well for Some

    Is this clickbait or reality??

    Kenny Pickett is at the bottom of the NFL quarterback rankings heading into 2023. That’s not a slap in the face or a sign of disrespect. That’s just harsh reality based on his play during his rookie season.


    Kenny Pickett?s quarterback ranking is not disrespect, it?s reality
    Kenny Pickett is at the bottom of the NFL quarterback rankings heading into 2023. That?s not a slap in the face or a sign of disrespect. That?s just harsh reality based on his play during his rookie season.

    By Anthony Defeo@Defeoman May 8, 2023, 7:00am EDT 133 Comments / 133 New

    At least he?s ranked higher than Baker Mayfield, amirite?

    CBSSports.com released its first 2023 quarterback power rankings on Thursday, and Kenny Pickett, the quarterback of your Pittsburgh Steelers, came in 28th.

    Why the disrespect?

    Pickett was ranked lower than Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson and C.J. Stroud. They?re all rookies!

    Pickett was rated lower than Lamar Jackson. He?s a running back!

    Pickett was ranked lower than Aaron Rodgers. He?s a tool!

    Pickett was rated lower than Kirk Cousins. He?s Kirk Cousins!

    What the frick?

    Relax.

    This isn?t a sign of disrespect for the Steelers' second-year quarterback. It?s plain old reality, a harsh pill to swallow if you don?t know how hard it normally is for young and inexperienced quarterbacks to perform fresh out of the box.

    You shouldn?t be surprised by Pickett?s quarterback ranking at all if you watched the Steelers' offense a year ago. It was abysmal. It was boring. The Steelers finished 23rd in total offense in 2022. They scored 28 measly touchdowns?including 12 through the air.

    For his part, Pickett passed for 2,404 yards, seven touchdowns and nine interceptions. He had a quarterback rating of 76.7. The 2022 first-round pick from Pitt appeared in 13 games, started 12, and never once broke out statistically over four-full quarters in any one of them.

    Where else should he be ranked?

    It might be a bit weird that CBS placed three rookie passers above Pickett in these power rankings, but you have to understand that these things are often done to generate discussion and debate (and articles like this one).

    It doesn?t really matter who Pickett is ranked behind; at the end of the day, it?s hard to argue with his placement on the list.

    Pickett was mostly bad in 2022.

    Sure, he had his moments. As CBS Sports points out in its description, Pickett showed ?grit? and toughness in 2022. He hung in there under very difficult situations. Pickett struggled but didn?t wilt. He bent but didn?t break. As a great man is often fond of saying, the moment wasn?t too big for the rookie quarterback who didn?t make his debut until the second half of a Week 4 game vs. the Jets at Acrisure Stadium.

    A few weeks later, when a dejected Pickett walked off the field after throwing a red zone interception in the final seconds of a loss to the Dolphins on a Sunday night in Miami, that same great man?Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin?told Pickett that there would be better days ahead.

    Sure enough, Pickett came through at the end of the season when faced with similar high-stakes situations and orchestrated last-second wins vs. the Raiders and Ravens, respectively.

    ?Kenny bleeping Pickett,? said that same great man, Tomlin, after Pickett threw the game-clinching touchdown pass to running back Najee Harris in the final seconds of the aforementioned win at Baltimore.

    But Pickett was still mostly pedestrian during those victories against Las Vegas and Baltimore. In fact, he might have been less than that. That?s okay because every pedestrian must crawl before they can walk. Similarly, most rookie quarterbacks must struggle before they can excel.


    Pickett struggled mightily last year. Nobody can argue that. However, that ?grit? CBS referred to? It's now manifesting itself in many ways?including the young quarterback?s desire to get better. You heard the stories earlier this offseason of Pickett?s fiancee telling him to go work out because he seemed miserable when he wasn?t working toward his goal of being the best quarterback he could be. You hear the stories of Pickett?s film study?the dude reportedly has his own office at the Steelers? facilities. The man added 13 pounds of muscle this offseason. When Pickett is being interviewed, like during a recent appearance on Ryan Clark?s Pivot Podcast, you can see in his face that he?s determined to be the best.

    Pickett isn?t there yet, however, and until he gets there, or at least drastically improves his play on the field, he?s going to stay ranked right where he is.

    As he should.

    I think Steelers fans are conditioned to see any low rating of a starting quarterback as disrespectful. While that was certainly true during the vast majority of Ben Roethlisberger?s career?some of those rankings were just mind-boggling?it?s not the case with Pickett.

    At least not yet.

    It?s up to Kenny Pickett, through continued work, drive and determination, to improve his game to the point where we?re justified in viewing a low quarterback ranking as a true sign of disrespect.

    Until he does, these rankings will continue to be a harsh reality.
  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #2
    Go back and look at Terry Bradshaw's rookie numbers...there's always hope for the future. For you youngsters who didn't watch it is real time, he was horrible his first three seasons.

    I said when we drafted KP that he would be much more Derek Carr or Kirk Cousins than Big Ben. I'll hold to that prediction because if you build the team around him, you can win with that. I think the organization sees something similar at this point of KP's career which is why we see the emphasis on the OL and a potentially strong running game.
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    • Eich
      Legend
      • Jul 2010
      • 7044

      #3
      Originally posted by Oviedo
      Go back and look at Terry Bradshaw's rookie numbers...there's always hope for the future. For you youngsters who didn't watch it is real time, he was horrible his first three seasons.
      I thought Kenny showed more than enough to be excited about after having gone through camp as essentially the number 3 QB and getting no reps with the one's and then being thrown to the wolves with an ailing run game.

      Troy Aikman had a passer rating of 55.7 with 1,749 yards, 9 touchdowns and 18 interceptions in 11 games in his rookie season in 1989. There's plenty of examples like that. There's just no way to know how it's going to go with Kenny other than to let it play out and enjoy the ride. He seems to have the work ethic with a passion for the game. That's all you can ask for at this point.

      His current ranking sits fine with me. Hopefully it adds another level to his motivation.
      Last edited by Eich; 05-10-2023, 08:19 AM.

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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27532

        #4
        Sports fans love ranking regardless of who makes them.

        Pickett was pedestrian in the Raiders game? The brick cold game where Kenny was 26 of 39 for 244 yards and 1 TD and 1 INT? That?s pedestrian?

        Some stats from other QB?s that weekend when it was ridiculously cold.

        Andy Dalton: 92 yards and an INT
        DeShaun Watson: 135 yards and an INT

        Malik Willis: 93 yards 2 INT
        Mahomes: 244 yards 2 TDs

        Huntley: 115 yards 1TD
        Ridder 244 yards

        Allen: 172 yards 2TD?s 2INT?s
        Fields: 119 yards 1TD

        Lawerence: 229 yards
        Wilson: 95 yards 1 INT

        the only QB?s who crushed it that weekend were Burrow and Goff and Mac Jones.

        I?m fine with Pickett being ranked ?low? because he is a rookie who is still a work in progress and shouldn?t be crowned simply for ending the season positively with 3 or 4 must win games.

        But using the Raiders game to bash him is ridiculous based on the conditions.
        Last edited by feltdizz; 05-10-2023, 09:05 AM.
        Steelers 27
        Rats 16

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        • NorthCoast
          Legend
          • Sep 2008
          • 26636

          #5
          "Pickett struggled mightily last season"..... I didn't see it that way.

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          • LAMBERT72
            Backup
            • Nov 2022
            • 113

            #6
            Rankings mean nothing. The preseason is very long and journalists have to fill space and time...
            This year with a good OLine and a good running game (hopefully) KP should make a leap in quality, but this is only shown on the playing field.

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            • feltdizz
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 27532

              #7
              Originally posted by NorthCoast
              "Pickett struggled mightily last season"..... I didn't see it that way.
              struggled early vs Buffalo, Philly and Miami on the road.

              and I think its a stretch to say Kenny struggled vs Miami. While he had 3 picks and the last one was a killer I think it was also the game where we started to see what Kenny could be.
              Steelers 27
              Rats 16

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              • SteelerOfDeVille
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 9069

                #8
                I'm not saying Pickett's going to be a Pro Bowler this season, but.....

                He was a rookie. He didn't get first team reps in camp. He was learning on the fly...

                Can we give the guy ONE camp as the starter before we really assess the guy.

                We're all taking elements of his play and extrapolating what we think we see. Some of us like his end-game performances and think that means good things. Some of us dislike the other 55 minutes of the game and think that means bad things.

                By the end of this season, we'll know.
                2013 MNF Executive Champion!

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                • WindyCitySteel
                  Legend
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 15684

                  #9
                  Well, if Anthony DeFeo said it...

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                  • feltdizz
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 27532

                    #10
                    Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                    Well, if Anthony DeFeo said it...
                    easiest way to generate clicks is make a ranking of teams or players.

                    should be illegal due to how easy it is to suck folks into these debates.

                    or

                    I need to create a website called Rank a Dank and just rank players, teams, fanbases every year.. lol.
                    Steelers 27
                    Rats 16

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                    • NorthCoast
                      Legend
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 26636

                      #11
                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      easiest way to generate clicks is make a ranking of teams or players.

                      should be illegal due to how easy it is to suck folks into these debates.

                      or

                      I need to create a website called Rank a Dank and just rank players, teams, fanbases every year.. lol.
                      These rankings are great if you are a bettor. The majority of lazy bettors use these to set their bets. The savvy ones know better and do their homework.

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                      • whisper
                        Legend
                        • Mar 2020
                        • 9423

                        #12
                        Originally posted by feltdizz
                        easiest way to generate clicks is make a ranking of teams or players.

                        should be illegal due to how easy it is to suck folks into these debates.

                        or

                        I need to create a website called Rank a Dank and just rank players, teams, fanbases every year.. lol.
                        Using your past predictions as an indicator, you should call it "Rank a Stank." You had the Steelers winning 13 games or something last year. "Rank a Stank." LMAO.

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                        • Ghost
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 6338

                          #13
                          Please correct if I have the wrong stat - but didn't Pickett only throw 1 interception over the last 9 games? Yes, he struggled early, but only a fool would fail to recognize he continually got better as the season went along. Excited to see him after being with the team for off season workouts that started mid-April, 3 OTA workout sessions b/t May 23 and June 8, and coming into to training camp as the starter, getting starter reps.
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                          • BURGH86STEEL
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 6921

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ghost
                            Please correct if I have the wrong stat - but didn't Pickett only throw 1 interception over the last 9 games? Yes, he struggled early, but only a fool would fail to recognize he continually got better as the season went along. Excited to see him after being with the team for off season workouts that started mid-April, 3 OTA workout sessions b/t May 23 and June 8, and coming into to training camp as the starter, getting starter reps.
                            If KP gets and executes the NFL game on a high level then the Steelers will be more of a force to be reckon with in the AFC North.


                            The Steelers have to contend with Burrow, Jackson, Watson in the AFC North. Two of the highest paid QB's in the NFL. Soon to be 3 with Burrow.

                            The Steelers welcome the challenge.

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                            • NorthCoast
                              Legend
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 26636

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                              If KP gets and executes the NFL game on a high level then the Steelers will be more of a force to be reckon with in the AFC North.


                              The Steelers have to contend with Burrow, Jackson, Watson in the AFC North. Two of the highest paid QB's in the NFL. Soon to be 3 with Burrow.

                              The Steelers welcome the challenge.
                              Good point Burgh. Let's see what all that money buys them......so far, no SBs. Bwaaahaaahaaa.

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