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  • Joel Buchsbaum
    Legend
    • Jan 2021
    • 7744

    SIX OT's in the first 32 pickes

    I want P Skoronski or B Jones, but if neither is on the board @ 17. I pick one # pick # 32 overall . Maybe D Jones or A Harrison but worked out well. This is a deep group of stating cabler OT''s. Forget P Johnson he will be lone gone by pick #17. What about Freeland or Duncan at pick #32 if everyone is off the board? I haven't checked them out.

    https://walterfootball.com/combine/weighin/OL
    Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 03-06-2023, 05:33 AM.
    Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

    Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

    *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***
  • Steel Maniac
    Banned
    • Apr 2017
    • 19472

    #2
    I’d be elated if Jones were there for us at #17.

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    • hawaiiansteel
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 35648

      #3
      Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
      I want P Skoronski or B Jones, but if neither is on the board @ 17. I pick one # pick # 32 overall . Maybe D Jones or A Harrison but worked out well. This is a deep group of stating cabler OT''s. Forget P Johnson he will be lone gone by pick #17. What about Freehand or Duncan at pick #32 if everyone is off the board? I haven't checked them out.

      https://walterfootball.com/combine/weighin/OL
      I would also consider Darnell Wright.

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      • whisper
        Legend
        • Mar 2020
        • 9423

        #4
        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
        I would also consider Darnell Wright.
        Not much not to like.

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        • Joel Buchsbaum
          Legend
          • Jan 2021
          • 7744

          #5
          Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
          I would also consider Darnell Wright.

          Well I want to see how Mr. Tiny hands works out on the bench and his grip strength. After all he has 9" hands which for a tackle are tiny. He might have the smaller mits in the NFL among tackles.
          Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

          Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

          *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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          • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 10281

            #6
            Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
            I want P Skoronski or B Jones, but if neither is on the board @ 17. I pick one # pick # 32 overall . Maybe D Jones or A Harrison but worked out well. This is a deep group of stating cabler OT''s. Forget P Johnson he will be lone gone by pick #17. What about Freeland or Duncan at pick #32 if everyone is off the board? I haven't checked them out.

            https://walterfootball.com/combine/weighin/OL
            I saw a post-combine mock this morning that had Harrison picked before the Steelers selection, with Jones falling to 17. I've seen the tackles mocked in different order, but it always seemed that the top 3 LTs were locked - Wright and Dawand Jones sometimes sneaking in ahead as RTs.
            http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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            • NJ-STEELER
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 12563

              #7
              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
              I would also consider Darnell Wright.
              that’s who wexall keeps mentioning to the Steelers.
              even at pick 17.

              being a bear writer for a long time, he might have sone insider info

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              • Joel Buchsbaum
                Legend
                • Jan 2021
                • 7744

                #8
                Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                that’s who wexall keeps mentioning to the Steelers.
                even at pick 17.

                being a bear writer for a long time, he might have sone insider info
                The two time DUI beat writer has no clue or sources. Maybe he has inside info but that was years ago.
                Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                • NorthCoast
                  Legend
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 26636

                  #9
                  Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                  I would also consider Darnell Wright.
                  Was thinking the same but this has me hesitating. Is this really what the Steelers want at 17?

                  Bob McGinn's recent scouting journal displays some pretty jarring comments on Tennessee offensive tackle Darnell Wright.


                  Darnell Wright Considered Boom-or-Bust Player in NFL Draft
                  Published 2 days agoon April 20, 2023By Chris WardSteelers Draft Darnell Wright

                  To say the least, Tennessee mammoth offensive tackle Darnell Wright is a very polarizing player in this year’s draft. Some are high on him, while others think he’s lazy and full of himself. Bob McGinn’s scouting journal outlined Wright as a prototype boom-or-bust prospect.

                  “Another 5-star recruit, this time from Huntington, W. Va. “He is a talented underachiever,” said one scout. “Not great football character. You can hit on him. If he has an epiphany and becomes a pro, he’s got a ****load of talent.”

                  That’s the thing with Wright that has been circling around a lot. He has to mature and become a pro. That certainly could come in time, but it doesn’t appear that he’s at that stage now. Earlier this month, Wright went off on Cincinnati Bengals podcaster/blogger Willie Lutz for tweeting that he “is a pure RT and has no business playing LT.” Not really outlandish stuff, pretty much opinions you see on Twitter every day during draft season. However, Wright took offense and direct messaged Lutz a derogatory remark and asked what year did you play to say anybody has any business doing anything?”

                  To Wright’s credit, though, he did apologize to Lutz and admitted that he was out of line for the insult. It appears that Wright came to his senses that he was being overly defensive. But that’s the kind of player that Wright describes himself as. “No choir boys over here, I wear my emotions on my sleeve, which is good and obviously bad,” Wright told Lutz.

                  Wright is certainly not a choir boy on the field, as he plays with an edge and is downright nasty. With his 6-foot-5, 335-pound frame, he’s naturally a punishing run-blocker. That’s why he’s projected as more of a right tackle. He also completely shutdown edge rushers Bj Ojuari of LSU and Will Anderson Jr. of Alabama in back-to-back weeks this past season at right tackle. Ojuari could possibly get selected late in the first round and Anderson is a consensus top-5 pick.

                  “There’s a lot of entitlement with this kid but he did shut out (Alabama’s) Will Anderson,” another scout said in McGinn’s scouting journal. “Absolutely. If you want to like him that’s the tape you point to and say, ‘This guy’s a starting left or right tackle. Case closed.
                  But when you dig into it, he never was much of a worker. Barely does enough to get by. Not super cooperative. Hard work is not in his vocabulary. Just does enough … But he has absolutely helped himself. Had a good Senior Bowl. Had a good Combine. He’s probably been clean enough in the interviews that somebody would say, ‘Hey, we’ll work with him.’ I think he could flame out pretty quick because he’s not a worker. It might not be as easy as he thinks it’s going to be in the league. So-so arm length (33 3/4), tiny hands (9).”

                  The Pittsburgh Steelers had Wright in for a pre-draft visit on Tuesday. He has also been linked to the Steelers in several mock drafts. With being widely considered the fourth-best offensive tackle in this year’s draft, No. 17 overall seems like a sweet spot for Wright’s draft range. Or he might drop further if teams are turned off by some of the red flags that scouts suggest.

                  One thing is for sure, Mike Tomlin has dealt with players who are not “choir boys” durning his tenure in Pittsburgh. Most notably Antonio Brown, who was obviously a great player, but also very toxic. That’s why Peter King probably suggested that Tomlin would be a good fit for Georgia defensive tackle Jalen Carter. And it’s not like Wright is the first or last prospect to have questionable character issues. The same was said about George Pickens last year.

                  The most concerning rumors for Wright is that he doesn’t work hard and is lazy. With all of AB’s troubles, he was an obsessive worker. I can’t slight him for that. If true, flat-out laziness and entitlement won’t pan out well for Wright in Pittsburgh or any NFL team. That’s for sure.

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                  • LPMAN
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Sep 2021
                    • 2032

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                    I want P Skoronski or B Jones, but if neither is on the board @ 17. I pick one # pick # 32 overall . Maybe D Jones or A Harrison but worked out well. This is a deep group of stating cabler OT''s. Forget P Johnson he will be lone gone by pick #17. What about Freeland or Duncan at pick #32 if everyone is off the board? I haven't checked them out.

                    https://walterfootball.com/combine/weighin/OL
                    but Skoronski might just be a guard with his short arms. We need a tackle.

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                    • SteelerOfDeVille
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 9069

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LPMAN
                      but Skoronski might just be a guard with his short arms. We need a tackle.
                      "measurables" are overrated...
                      2013 MNF Executive Champion!

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                      • LPMAN
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Sep 2021
                        • 2032

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
                        "measurables" are overrated...
                        Except when you draft a 5'9 CB (Senquez Golson) in round two to play outside, a Center with 29'3/4 arms (AQ Shipley ) to play starting center, or a RB in round 3 that's 5'8 (Dri Archer) to be effective running in the NFL.

                        Yeah you have to be a good football player to begin with but after that i'm sure Paris Johnson's 36' arms are going to vastly give him an advantage.

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                        • Blitzer
                          Pro Bowler
                          • Nov 2022
                          • 1073

                          #13
                          Originally posted by LPMAN
                          Except when you draft a 5'9 CB (Senquez Golson) in round two to play outside, a Center with 29'3/4 arms (AQ Shipley ) to play starting center, or a RB in round 3 that's 5'8 (Dri Archer) to be effective running in the NFL.

                          Yeah you have to be a good football player to begin with but after that i'm sure Paris Johnson's 36' arms are going to vastly give him an advantage.
                          Shipley lasted 11 or 12 years in this league. not bad for a 7th rounder

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                          • Blitzer
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Nov 2022
                            • 1073

                            #14
                            I dont think 6 OTs in the 1st 32 picks is out of the ordinary. I didnt go back and look at pastb drafts but it seems that this would happen

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                            • LPMAN
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Sep 2021
                              • 2032

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Blitzer
                              Shipley lasted 11 or 12 years in this league. not bad for a 7th rounder
                              yeah he did ok for himself he was an average center , started a lot & was a backup who kept playing when others got hurt. smart player.

                              But as far as Peter Skoronski vs the other top tackles in this draft. I think every NFL pro-bowl tackle the last decade has had 33-37 inch arms.

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