NFL 2023 combine thread II

[Joel Buchsbaum]

I'm with you. I don't like Addision at #17 but if he is there at #32, I'm taking him. I don't understand why anyone thinks our WR group is going to help Pickett "be all he can be." Unreliable DJ who is boom or bust from play to play. Pickett who oozes potential but isn't a good route runner but has splashed with half a dozen highlight film catches. Austin who I have been a fan of because i watched him in college but we can't be sure how he come back from his injury. Other than that we have nothing at WR except journeymen and forgettable talent.

So we have a star in the making with Pickens who would be much better with an average to good QB, Johnson who is okay or above avegage as #2 and Austin who did well until he got hurt as the slot guy. Sims is okay as the #4, And you want to spend a high pick on a WR in Addison who is not going to start or catch many balls without injuries? Again he is small WR who is very light and isn't a deep threat in the NFL! No thank you. Addison might have issues beating press coverage and is not a deep WR, 50/50 guy, any kind of a blocker. He is a zero in the red zone. He should be okay in short off man coverage. I not saying he un-draftable but he's no first round pick in my book. He is a slot WR mainly. This web site seems to know what its talking about.


https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jordan-addison/32004144-4449-1056-9ba9-b09766bad478

[feltdizz]

4.49 is not Is not slow or fast. Addison is a light weight 5'11" 173 pound WR with tiny hands ( 8 3/4 inches ) who on college didn't get open and struggled in the red zone and adds 0 as a blocker. He has a limited catch radius ( short arms at 5'11 ) and lacks size and speed. IMO not worth a first round pick ! The fact that Pickett is pimping his college teammate and nada. We have enough short WR's.

PS: Several Steelers WR ran faster. Ever hear of Bryant, or Austin? Projecting him as a starting Steeler is a reach! Forget him.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jordan-addison/32004144-4449-1056-9ba9-b09766bad478

problems in the red zone?

couldn’t get open?

Yeah.. you never watched him in college.

He had 1600 yards and 17 TD’s with Pickett. WTF were you watching?

[feltdizz]

So we have a star in the making with Pickens who would be much better with an average to good QB, Johnson who is okay or above avegage as #2 and Austin who did well until he got hurt as the slot guy. Sims is okay as the #4, And you want to spend a high pick on a WR in Addison who is not going to start or catch many balls without injuries? Again he is small WR who is very light and isn't a deep threat in the NFL! No thank you. Addison might have issues beating press coverage and is not a deep WR, 50/50 guy, any kind of a blocker. He is a zero in the red zone. He should be okay in short off man coverage. I not saying he un-draftable but he's no first round pick in my book. He is a slot WR mainly. This web site seems to know what its talking about.


https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jordan-addison/32004144-4449-1056-9ba9-b09766bad478

Austin has played in as many preseason and regular season games as Addison. Where did Austin do well? In camp?

For the record I hope you are right on Austin but once again you are just typing random hot takes and acting like they are facts.

[Captain Lemming]

4.49 is not Is not slow or fast. Addison is a light weight 5'11" 173 pound WR with tiny hands ( 8 3/4 inches ) who on college didn't get open and struggled in the red zone and adds 0 as a blocker. He has a limited catch radius ( short arms at 5'11 ) and lacks size and speed. IMO not worth a first round pick ! The fact that Pickett is pimping his college teammate and nada. We have enough short WR's.

PS: Several Steelers WR ran faster. Ever hear of Bryant, or Austin? Projecting him as a starting Steeler is a reach! Forget him.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jordan-addison/32004144-4449-1056-9ba9-b09766bad478

I never said I wanted him in the first. I would be fine in round 2.

I never said he was faster than any Steeler receiver. I said “about as fast as any STARTING Steeler receiver.

As far as the numbers?
He has the exact same hand size as the BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE at making the catch (George Pickens).

Arm length? 30 and 7/8?
That is an Antonio Brown catch radius but Addison is taller.

How exactly does one get over 100 receptions and not be able to get open ESPECIALLY with a “limited QB” like Kenny?

Even a bigger question.
How does one lead the nation in touchdown receptions (17) with a weak armed QB AND be bad in the red zone?

[Captain Lemming]

So we have a star in the making with Pickens who would be much better with an average to good QB, Johnson who is okay or above avegage as #2 and Austin who did well until he got hurt as the slot guy. Sims is okay as the #4, And you want to spend a high pick on a WR in Addison who is not going to start or catch many balls without injuries? Again he is small WR who is very light and isn't a deep threat in the NFL! No thank you. Addison might have issues beating press coverage and is not a deep WR, 50/50 guy, any kind of a blocker. He is a zero in the red zone. He should be okay in short off man coverage. I not saying he un-draftable but he's no first round pick in my book. He is a slot WR mainly. This web site seems to know what its talking about.


https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jordan-addison/32004144-4449-1056-9ba9-b09766bad478

You are once again arguing with someone who clearly says he DOES NOT want him in the first that Addison is not a first round talent.

[feltdizz]

You are once again arguing with someone who clearly says he DOES NOT want him in the first that Addison is not a first round talent.

lmao.. as soon as Addisn’s 40 time came out people went hunting.. lol

Pretty sure Kenny Pickett was the only one who said he was a 4.29/4.3 guy.

I bet even Addison was like “who??? me???! who said what???!”

but as predicted, notice how a 4.49 is frowned on now? If Kenny never put that out there are people reacting this way at his 40 time?

[crushedspirit]

You think he has the goods?

I think he has that CJ2K vibe going. Very dangerous runner who can make one cut and explode. If he goes to the right team, I see a big time future.

[Northern_Blitz]

I never said I wanted him in the first. I would be fine in round 2.

I never said he was faster than any Steeler receiver. I said “about as fast as any STARTING Steeler receiver.

As far as the numbers?
He has the exact same hand size as the BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE at making the catch (George Pickens).

Arm length? 30 and 7/8?
That is an Antonio Brown catch radius but Addison is taller.

How exactly does one get over 100 receptions and not be able to get open ESPECIALLY with a “limited QB” like Kenny?

Even a bigger question.
How does one lead the nation in touchdown receptions (17) with a weak armed QB AND be bad in the red zone?

I don't follow college football.

How did Addison do after Pickett graduated (I think that Addison changed programs after, right?)?

Maybe having some info on him away from a 1st round QB would help?

Maybe comparing that to someone like Chase with and without Burrow in college?

I think I'd probably really dislike picking him at 17, and would feel better about it in the 2nd. I just worry that we'll put the blinders on for him because he was at Pitt and is KPs friend.

[Captain Lemming]

lmao.. as soon as Addisn’s 40 time came out people went hunting.. lol

Pretty sure Kenny Pickett was the only one who said he was a 4.29/4.3 guy.

I bet even Addison was like “who??? me???! who said what???!”

but as predicted, notice how a 4.49 is frowned on now? If Kenny never put that out there are people reacting this way at his 40 time?

So what you are saying is that if he is there at 32 and we don’t take him… Kenny owes him big bucks for killing his value for no good reason.

[NJ-STEELER]

Will he run again at the pitt pro day ?

[NJ-STEELER]

I don't follow college football.

How did Addison do after Pickett graduated (I think that Addison changed programs after, right?)?

Maybe having some info on him away from a 1st round QB would help?

Maybe comparing that to someone like Chase with and without Burrow in college?

I think I'd probably really dislike picking him at 17, and would feel better about it in the 2nd. I just worry that we'll put the blinders on for him because he was at Pitt and is KPs friend.

there’s been plenty of Pitt players they’ve passed up over the years.
randje el over Bryant for example

the bigger issue might be like you said, Pickett calling for him

[Captain Lemming]

I don't follow college football.

How did Addison do after Pickett graduated (I think that Addison changed programs after, right?)?

Maybe having some info on him away from a 1st round QB would help?

Maybe comparing that to someone like Chase with and without Burrow in college?

I think I'd probably really dislike picking him at 17, and would feel better about it in the 2nd. I just worry that we'll put the blinders on for him because he was at Pitt and is KPs friend.

Pre-combine, even in mocks that don’t have us taking him Addison, tends to be mocked a little before or after us, so there is objective value there.

I NEVER liked him in the first either. NOW if he drops to top of the second due to a bunch of receivers “timing” better than his 4.49?

That is how you might get mid 1st value with a high second.

[Steel Maniac]

I think he has that CJ2K vibe going. Very dangerous runner who can make one cut and explode. If he goes to the right team, I see a big time future.

Okay. Now your making me go to youtube to see for myself. Thanks.

[feltdizz]

I don't follow college football.

How did Addison do after Pickett graduated (I think that Addison changed programs after, right?)?

Maybe having some info on him away from a 1st round QB would help?

Maybe comparing that to someone like Chase with and without Burrow in college?

I think I'd probably really dislike picking him at 17, and would feel better about it in the 2nd. I just worry that we'll put the blinders on for him because he was at Pitt and is KPs friend.

His numbers were down at USC. 875 yards and 8 TD’s. Played 3 less games than he did at Pitt.

He was the #1 at Pitt, not sure what else USC had but the QB won the Heisman. They spread the ball around a bit more with their WR’s but the few games I watched the QB was on some Patrick Mahomes level with extending plays and there was a lot of freestyling going on.

Addison did play with the 3rd string QB in Pitt’s bowl game in 2021 vs Michigan State. Pickett opted out and the starting QB broke his collar bone on the first drive (which is why you can’t blame players opting out of Bowl games now)

7 catches for 114 yards.

[Northern_Blitz]

WRONG!!!

I never said Addison was a 4.29 guy. If he was ain’t no way he would make it to 17.

I said Pickett was probably trying to get Addison to drop with that prediction. I’ve always said Addison was a playmaker, never said he had blazing speed.



http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums...ison+doesn%92t

FWIW, I don't buy the idea that "Pickett is trying to tank his friend's draft stock because they are such good friends and they want to play together" idea.