OFFSEASON: Would you Re-do our DBs?

[steeler_george]

I Got this idea from reading articles on the Mel Kipper's 1st mock. He has Porter as our 1st pick.
(Take note, I am just thinking outside the box, not what I would do.)

So what if they do target Porter or any other CB in round 1....

It fits a need. And it does pay off financially having a CB1 on a rookie contract.

So what if the FO decides to shake up the DBs, not resign Sutton and Edmunds. That could be +$20 M in savings.

If they keep Levi, Witherspoon, Pier, Norwood, Maulet, and resigning Kazee. (We have starters in place pre-draft) Then at 17we draft Porter(or any CB1) and then at 32 we draft a S (Branch) at 32? We got younger, cheaper, and maybe more talented with higher ceiling)

(1st round CB/Porter)-Levi/Spoon-Pier
Branch-Fitz-Kazee -Norwod-Maulet

Add that 20M with another 30M in cuts/restructures we can be under the cap by 50M !
Think how much 50 M can be used to invest on OL, DL, and ILB

Don't forget about the comp formula too.

Thoughts?

[Northern_Blitz]

I think something like this is possible.

Particularly is Sutton is seen as one of the top UFA CBs and gets big contract offers.

I think he's a good CB. But I don't think he's really a #1 CB. I'd like to bring him back, but don't want to give him a really big deal.

If he's our CB1, would he want to be around the 10th highest paid CB in AAV ($16.5M)

Or the 15th? $13.3M

Or the 20th? $10M

Is he worth any of those numbers?

He hasn't had a really big contract yet, so if I were him I'd probably go for the biggest contract (or at lest the contract that paid me the most in the first 2-3 years).

Not sure we can do that with him.

And I don't think we put the tag on him (somewhere in the high teens).

But since his contract voids, he'll be UFA. And when you're a UFA, you might as well see what the offers are.

I guess what I'm saying is that I think there's a reasonable chance Sutton is gone and CB becomes a big need.

[WindyCitySteel]

Well thought out post and I'm not against it. However I know they like to run 3-safety packages, so I think they'll try to hold onto Edmunds.

[whisper]

All I know is if we approach 2023 season with Moore as our starting LT, then what the f-ck? We aren't even trying to improve. Such an embarrassment.

[steeler_george]

Well thought out post and I'm not against it. However I know they like to run 3-safety packages, so I think they'll try to hold onto Edmunds.

That is why i have them taking a top Safety at 32 in this scenario. He is suppose to be "Fitz like" can play multiple rolls.

I think Edmunds is really under appreciated because he does not get those "splash" plays. I think the Steeler brass, until last year, did not play him to his potential as a hybrid S-ILB. ( give them credit they did last year).

[steeler_george]

All I know is if we approach 2023 season with Moore as our starting LT, then what the f-ck? We aren't even trying to improve. Such an embarrassment.

Would you blow up our DBs? ( Not keep Sutton and Edmunds, find their replacements early in the draft.)

Instead use that money to bring in say a DL (Hargrave), an Edmunds at ILB, or an above average LT?

Could we bring 2 of 3 positions from the cap savings.

[Steel Maniac]

I Got this idea from reading articles on the Mel Kipper's 1st mock. He has Porter as our 1st pick.
(Take note, I am just thinking outside the box, not what I would do.)

So what if they do target Porter or any other CB in round 1....

It fits a need. And it does pay off financially having a CB1 on a rookie contract.

So what if the FO decides to shake up the DBs, not resign Sutton and Edmunds. That could be +$20 M in savings.

If they keep Levi, Witherspoon, Pier, Norwood, Maulet, and resigning Kazee. (We have starters in place pre-draft) Then at 17we draft Porter(or any CB1) and then at 32 we draft a S (Branch) at 32? We got younger, cheaper, and maybe more talented with higher ceiling)

(1st round CB/Porter)-Levi/Spoon-Pier
Branch-Fitz-Kazee -Norwod-Maulet

Add that 20M with another 30M in cuts/restructures we can be under the cap by 50M !
Think how much 50 M can be used to invest on OL, DL, and ILB

Don't forget about the comp formula too.

Thoughts?

How does this fix the O-line/D-line if we are using the first two picks on the secondary? I'm not saying that for the secondary, your idea is good but we've got red alert areas such as the lines and linebacking corps that are more immediate needs.

[steeler_george]

I Got this idea from reading articles on the Mel Kipper's 1st mock. He has Porter as our 1st pick.
(Take note, I am just thinking outside the box, not what I would do.)

So what if they do target Porter or any other CB in round 1....

It fits a need. And it does pay off financially having a CB1 on a rookie contract.

So what if the FO decides to shake up the DBs, not resign Sutton and Edmunds. That could be +$20 M in savings.

If they keep Levi, Witherspoon, Pier, Norwood, Maulet, and resigning Kazee. (We have starters in place pre-draft) Then at 17we draft Porter(or any CB1) and then at 32 we draft a S (Branch) at 32? We got younger, cheaper, and maybe more talented with higher ceiling)

(1st round CB/Porter)-Levi/Spoon-Pier
Branch-Fitz-Kazee -Norwod-Maulet

Add that 20M with another 30M in cuts/restructures we can be under the cap by 50M !
Think how much 50 M can be used to invest on OL, DL, and ILB

Don't forget about the comp formula too.

Thoughts?

Hey ladies, I did the math wrong. It would not total 50 M under the cap, but it would be about 20 M saved from not signing them.

So, the project 30 M in cap cuts/restructure can all be dedicated in improving the trenches ( OL and DL) and ILB spot. I think we spent less last year in signing Daniels, Cole, Chucks, and Ogunjobi.

[Captain Lemming]

I Got this idea from reading articles on the Mel Kipper's 1st mock. He has Porter as our 1st pick.
(Take note, I am just thinking outside the box, not what I would do.)

So what if they do target Porter or any other CB in round 1....

It fits a need. And it does pay off financially having a CB1 on a rookie contract.

So what if the FO decides to shake up the DBs, not resign Sutton and Edmunds. That could be +$20 M in savings.

If they keep Levi, Witherspoon, Pier, Norwood, Maulet, and resigning Kazee. (We have starters in place pre-draft) Then at 17we draft Porter(or any CB1) and then at 32 we draft a S (Branch) at 32? We got younger, cheaper, and maybe more talented with higher ceiling)

(1st round CB/Porter)-Levi/Spoon-Pier
Branch-Fitz-Kazee -Norwod-Maulet

Add that 20M with another 30M in cuts/restructures we can be under the cap by 50M !
Think how much 50 M can be used to invest on OL, DL, and ILB

Don't forget about the comp formula too.

Thoughts?

Hmmm, interesting. If we gotta pay real money for Sutton, if we let him walk...that dough could go towards a needed lineman.

This let's us make sure we get one of several top tier corners without neglecting something else.

[Captain Lemming]

How does this fix the O-line/D-line if we are using the first two picks on the secondary? I'm not saying that for the secondary, your idea is good but we've got red alert areas such as the lines and linebacking corps that are more immediate needs.

We aren't paying guys we have to sign otherwise Sutton and and Edmonds), freeing that mulah to go towards those positions.

[Captain Lemming]

Well thought out post and I'm not against it. However I know they like to run 3-safety packages, so I think they'll try to hold onto Edmunds.

Minkah, Kayzee, and the rookie.

[Captain Lemming]

Would you blow up our DBs? ( Not keep Sutton and Edmunds, find their replacements early in the draft.)

Instead use that money to bring in say a DL (Hargrave), an Edmunds at ILB, or an above average LT?

Could we bring 2 of 3 positions from the cap savings.

Not gonna get the other Edmonds without his brother. You better overpay if you wanna save money to pay me be letting my brother go.

Not only would he not do it, we would lose interest.

IT WOULD ALSO KILL THE CUTSY BROTHER awesomeness factor for us.

[steeler_george]

Hmmm, interesting. If we gotta pay real money for Sutton, if we let him walk...that dough could go towards a needed lineman.

This let's us make sure we get one of several top tier corners without neglecting something else.

This draft is suppose to be deep at CB, besides the 1st round, so we we miss out at 17, there are suppose to be high ceiling ballers until the 3rd round.

IF we miss out on a CB in round 1 or 2, we still have Witherspoon and Levi as our CB. Not great, but decent if we have a monster pash rush ( healthy Watt and ever improving Highsmith) and superman Fitz in the fold!

[Oviedo]

I Got this idea from reading articles on the Mel Kipper's 1st mock. He has Porter as our 1st pick.
(Take note, I am just thinking outside the box, not what I would do.)

So what if they do target Porter or any other CB in round 1....

It fits a need. And it does pay off financially having a CB1 on a rookie contract.

So what if the FO decides to shake up the DBs, not resign Sutton and Edmunds. That could be +$20 M in savings.

If they keep Levi, Witherspoon, Pier, Norwood, Maulet, and resigning Kazee. (We have starters in place pre-draft) Then at 17we draft Porter(or any CB1) and then at 32 we draft a S (Branch) at 32? We got younger, cheaper, and maybe more talented with higher ceiling)

(1st round CB/Porter)-Levi/Spoon-Pier
Branch-Fitz-Kazee -Norwod-Maulet

Add that 20M with another 30M in cuts/restructures we can be under the cap by 50M !
Think how much 50 M can be used to invest on OL, DL, and ILB

Don't forget about the comp formula too.

Thoughts?

and then the board explodes because we didn’t select two offensive linemen

[feltdizz]

I’m fine with a CB early if we don’t keep Sutton. But we need to keep Edmunds. He won’t be expensive and I think fans finally realize he is actually a solid player.