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  • NJ-STEELER
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 12563

    #46
    Originally posted by crushedspirit
    Every player and analyst mentions schemes and how some coaches are just better at creating mismatches in their play designs. Stop wasting your time trying to explain that to some neanderthals on a message board who believe they are right no matter how factually wrong they are. They can watch this video breakdown of how SF runs the 21 personnel and still not understand what they're watching.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1615485113822842882
    I think if they asked Mikey about this, his response would be

    “ yabba dabba doooo”

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    • crushedspirit
      Pro Bowler
      • Feb 2021
      • 2203

      #47
      Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
      I think if they asked Mikey about this, his response would be

      “ yabba dabba doooo”
      He's got an old school 3 yards and a cloud of dust mentality, and nothing will change his mind about it.

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      • flippy
        Legend
        • Dec 2008
        • 17088

        #48
        Originally posted by crushedspirit
        Every player and analyst mentions schemes and how some coaches are just better at creating mismatches in their play designs. Stop wasting your time trying to explain that to some neanderthals on a message board who believe they are right no matter how factually wrong they are. They can watch this video breakdown of how SF runs the 21 personnel and still not understand what they're watching.

        https://twitter.com/i/status/1615485113822842882
        If Tomlin/Canada’s had Deebo and CMC on offense, our O would be completely different.

        You have a RB that runs as good a routes as any WR in CMC and you have a freak in Deebo that can run as well as most running back but add in electrifying athleticism that few other backs have. Plus they have a pretty good TE and FB that offer versatility. Their other WR has turned into a monster blocker downfield that’s been a catalyst for a lot of their big plays.

        Compare that to our 21 personnel. Najee, Watt, Pat, George, and DJ.

        DJ runs great routes but can’t catch and is afraid of contact.

        George will win 80% or jump balls but he’s not a great route runner.

        Najee is a good blocker and outlet in the passing game, but he’s not lining up in the X, Y, Z.

        Watt is a great hustler on ST.

        Pat is a crappy blocker on the LoS but he blocks well downfield like Brandon A.

        We not only don’t have versatility at our skill positions, but we have weaknesses in being able to do all the things we need them to do at their one position.


        If we use Heyward as an Hback, I think he can add some versatility.

        If Pat develops as an in-line blocker, maybe he adds some versatility.

        But none of these guys will give you what CMC and Deebo bring to the table.

        Plus every time we try to find a versatile guy, he ends up not being good at anything.
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        • crushedspirit
          Pro Bowler
          • Feb 2021
          • 2203

          #49
          Originally posted by flippy
          If Tomlin/Canada’s had Deebo and CMC on offense, our O would be completely different.

          You have a RB that runs as good a routes as any WR in CMC and you have a freak in Deebo that can run as well as most running back but add in electrifying athleticism that few other backs have. Plus they have a pretty good TE and FB that offer versatility. Their other WR has turned into a monster blocker downfield that’s been a catalyst for a lot of their big plays.

          Compare that to our 21 personnel. Najee, Watt, Pat, George, and DJ.

          DJ runs great routes but can’t catch and is afraid of contact.

          George will win 80% or jump balls but he’s not a great route runner.

          Najee is a good blocker and outlet in the passing game, but he’s not lining up in the X, Y, Z.

          Watt is a great hustler on ST.

          Pat is a crappy blocker on the LoS but he blocks well downfield like Brandon A.

          We not only don’t have versatility at our skill positions, but we have weaknesses in being able to do all the things we need them to do at their one position.


          If we use Heyward as an Hback, I think he can add some versatility.

          If Pat develops as an in-line blocker, maybe he adds some versatility.

          But none of these guys will give you what CMC and Deebo bring to the table.

          Plus every time we try to find a versatile guy, he ends up not being good at anything.
          Can't add those guys and line them up like the Steelers do. I've seen two years of MC and his schemes, and they are truly simplistic in nature. Much of it is dependant on just beating the matchups and leaving it up to the players. Their offense would be better of course with such playmakers, but limited in terms of ceiling due to the nature of the play calling. Even before CMC that offense was already creative with guys like Wilson, Mitchell and Mostert in the backfield.

          The WR you're thinking of is Jennings, who is a monster blocking downfield and springs many big plays.

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          • NorthCoast
            Legend
            • Sep 2008
            • 26626

            #50
            Originally posted by crushedspirit
            Can't add those guys and line them up like the Steelers do. I've seen two years of MC and his schemes, and they are truly simplistic in nature. Much of it is dependant on just beating the matchups and leaving it up to the players. Their offense would be better of course with such playmakers, but limited in terms of ceiling due to the nature of the play calling. Even before CMC that offense was already creative with guys like Wilson, Mitchell and Mostert in the backfield.

            The WR you're thinking of is Jennings, who is a monster blocking downfield and springs many big plays.
            You're missing the most obvious difference. SF OL is elite. There second level blocking is second to none. The Steelers OL, while improving, isn't near the talent of SF's.

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            • crushedspirit
              Pro Bowler
              • Feb 2021
              • 2203

              #51
              Originally posted by NorthCoast
              You're missing the most obvious difference. SF OL is elite. There second level blocking is second to none. The Steelers OL, while improving, isn't near the talent of SF's.
              So invest highly in your Tackles like many of us have been saying for years. Aside from Trent who is a stud LT, and McGlinchey at RT who is good, the interior of the line are scrap heap players. Their RG graded out at 49.6 overall, and the other interior at 69.0 and 64.9. Team lost 2 pro bowlers before the season and didn't miss a beat. They've been coached up as a unit and it shows on the field.

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              • crushedspirit
                Pro Bowler
                • Feb 2021
                • 2203

                #52
                Bengals no line, no problem on that first drive

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                • WindyCitySteel
                  Legend
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 15675

                  #53
                  Wow, Bengals went through the Bills like a hot knife through snow. If the Bills O is on point this could be a fun one.

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                  • WindyCitySteel
                    Legend
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 15675

                    #54
                    Originally posted by crushedspirit
                    Bengals no line, no problem on that first drive
                    Yeah, with QBs that can manipulate the pocket and keep eyes downfield you don't need the best OL. We really could use another weapon for Kenny.

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                    • Chucktownsteeler
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 6849

                      #55
                      Originally posted by crushedspirit
                      Bengals no line, no problem on that first drive
                      They have a couple nice weapons at WR. That matters.
                      Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

                      I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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                      • WindyCitySteel
                        Legend
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 15675

                        #56
                        Oooh, Allen missed a big one there.

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                        • Steel Maniac
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 19472

                          #57
                          Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                          Yeah, with QBs that can manipulate the pocket and keep eyes downfield you don't need the best OL. We really could use another weapon for Kenny.
                          He needs weapons but the team ( as a whole) needs so much. And not enough draft picks to fix it all.

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                          • Steel Maniac
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2017
                            • 19472

                            #58
                            Originally posted by NorthCoast
                            You're missing the most obvious difference. SF OL is elite. There second level blocking is second to none. The Steelers OL, while improving, isn't near the talent of SF's.
                            Boom…….notice how 49ers and Eagles O-lines are so good.

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                            • Chucktownsteeler
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 6849

                              #59
                              I was impressed last season with the way KP8 kept his eyes downfield while on the move.
                              Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

                              I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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                              • Steel Maniac
                                Banned
                                • Apr 2017
                                • 19472

                                #60
                                Bengals offense has the Bills defense totally confused. They don’t know what the bengals are going to call from one play to next

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