On Picketts interceptions last night. An observation.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

First off let me get it out the way. Claypool fell down when contact was made. I do not fault Pickett here. It was not his doing. You could say the TD pass was not his doing Pickett's doing either. Pickens was one who was doing. Leaping in the air contorting his body to a less than ideally throw ball too. That stuff happens in video games. 95% of WR's do not make that catch.

So in way that's even.

Okay now for my point. The other two interceptions happened where? On one play interception happened 10 yards down the field. The other was 12 yards away from the line of scrimmage. On both plays the Pickett's arm lacks velocity and the defender intercepts it because he has time to break on the ball. We are not talk about 50/50 balls or a bomb. By the way the ball wobbled like a duck on one of those throws.

So maybe that's the real reason why Pickett throws it sort so often, and doesn't use the middle let alone drill anything 10+ years down the field.

Judge for yourself. He has a weak arm by the standards of a starting QB. Who do you think he has a better arm than? List the names.

https://triblive.com/sports/madden-monday-on-steelers-defeat-in-miami-i-thought-kenny-pickett-lost-the-game/

[Northern_Blitz]

I don't think the first INT was his fault.

But I think he made mistakes on the 2nd and 3rd ones.

The point of this year is to have him learn IMO.

Hopefully he doesn't make the same mistakes multiple times (or at least not too frequently).

[Terrapin]

If Pickett was perfect he would have went 1st overall. I think accuracy is more important than arm strength

[whisper]

First off let me get it out the way. Claypool fell down when contact was made. I do not fault Pickett here. It was not his doing. You could say the TD pass was not his doing Pickett's doing either. Pickens was one who was doing. Leaping in the air contorting his body to a less than ideally throw ball too. That stuff happens in video games. 95% of WR's do not make that catch.

So in way that's even.

Okay now for my point. The other two interceptions happened where? On one play interception happened 10 yards down the field. The other was 12 yards away from the line of scrimmage. On both plays the Pickett's arm lacks velocity and the defender intercepts it because he has time to break on the ball. We are not talk about 50/50 balls or a bomb.

So maybe that's the real reason why Pickett throws it sort so often, and doesn't use the middle let alone drill anything 10+ years down the field.

Judge for yourself. He has a weak arm by the standards of a starting QB. Who do you think he has a better arm than? List the names.

https://triblive.com/sports/madden-m...lost-the-game/

Be that as that may (KP lost the game), he's still just a rookie in his 3rd start. If other rookie QBs were to be evaluated after their 1st three starts, virtually none of the greats would have gone on to become greats. Whether we are talking Bradshaw, Elway, Aikman, Manning, Favre or anyone not named Marino, rookie QBs mostly stink. Could KP go onto to become a mediocre QB with a pop gun arm? Sure, he could. But we can't know that yet. Let's not forget, Montana and Brady were touted as having not the strongest arms too. And all they've done is win a collective 11 rings. (By far the most of any 2 QBs in history.)

Am I convinced KP is "the man" when it comes to being a top QB in the NFL? No, I'm not. But I know enough to know trying to categorize him as a failure is just far too early. And this is coming from a guy who often rips the Steelers for taking far too long to recognize players who are "below the line" when it comes to high draft picks. (See Jarvis Jones.) We should start to see some improvement with KP by season's end (unless of the OC is just too God-awful for us to even recognize QB play).

[WindyCitySteel]

Narrative confirmation in progress. Please stand by.

[Chucktownsteeler]

Be that as that may (KP lost the game), he's still just a rookie in his 3rd start. If other rookie QBs were to be evaluated after their 1st three starts, virtually none of the greats would have gone on to become greats. Whether we are talking Bradshaw, Elway, Aikman, Manning, Favre or anyone not named Marino, rookie QBs mostly stink. Could KP go onto to become a mediocre QB with a pop gun arm? Sure, he could. But we can't know that yet. Let's not forget, Montana and Brady were touted as having not the strongest arms too. And all they've done is win a collective 11 rings. (By far the most of any 2 QBs in history.)

Am I convinced KP is "the man" when it comes to being a top QB in the NFL? No, I'm not. But I know enough to know trying to categorize him as a failure is just far too early. And this is coming from a guy who often rips the Steelers for taking far too long to recognize players who are "below the line" when it comes to high draft picks. (See Jarvis Jones.) We should start to see some improvement with KP by season's end (unless of the OC is just too God-awful for us to even recognize QB play).

This is pretty much spot on. I won't even begin to judge KP8 until we have an NFL grade OC and a few NFL WRs.

Ask Steve Sims how strong KP8 arm is.

[feltdizz]

Its not velocity, its decision making. He made 2 bad decisions.

Last one was a terrible decision given how much green he had in from of him. I know we were out of time outs but I think he could’ve picked up a first down and scooted out of bounds.

If anything, he should’ve thrown to the back corner of the endzone. Just a bad mistake on Kenny’s part.

[T.Ferguson]

Lol so it's even what? Claypool is so soft for a guy his size and that TD pass was a great throw what in the world are some of you talking about? Look at the play again, he was not open at all and Pickett threw it to a spot where only Pickens could catch it. Pickett's accuracy is actually really good so far, better than Tua's from last night actually.

[whisper]

Its not velocity, its decision making. He made 2 bad decisions.

Last one was a terrible decision given how much green he had in from of him. I know we were out of time outs but I think he could’ve picked up a first down and scooted out of bounds.

If anything, he should’ve thrown to the back corner of the endzone. Just a bad mistake on Kenny’s part.

And bad mistakes happen to rookie QBs with just a few starts under their belt. It's just reality. KP threw 44 passes. What did Cowher and co. have Ben throw as a rookie per game? 20 or less? With this OC and personnel, we just don't have the guns to run that much.

[NorthCoast]

First off let me get it out the way. Claypool fell down when contact was made. I do not fault Pickett here. It was not his doing. You could say the TD pass was not his doing Pickett's doing either. Pickens was one who was doing. Leaping in the air contorting his body to a less than ideally throw ball too. That stuff happens in video games. 95% of WR's do not make that catch.

So in way that's even.

Okay now for my point. The other two interceptions happened where? On one play interception happened 10 yards down the field. The other was 12 yards away from the line of scrimmage. On both plays the Pickett's arm lacks velocity and the defender intercepts it because he has time to break on the ball. We are not talk about 50/50 balls or a bomb.

So maybe that's the real reason why Pickett throws it sort so often, and doesn't use the middle let alone drill anything 10+ years down the field.

Judge for yourself. He has a weak arm by the standards of a starting QB. Who do you think he has a better arm than? List the names.

https://triblive.com/sports/madden-m...lost-the-game/

Arm strength is probably 3rd on the list of gotta have traits for a franchise QB.
Heard an interesting stat today. Teams that score first in the NFL win 70% of the time. More often than not the Steelers have been playing from behind. Add to this an OC that seems to struggle putting together a professional game plan and it's kind of sad. KP was putting some nice throws out there and moving the ball before halftime so what does Canada do on the first possession after the half? A run with Najee for 2 yds.
The Steelers are consistently in 3rd and long a lot of times. This makes it doubly hard on the rookie QB. I watched some of the BAL game and LJ was in 3rd and short a majority of the game.

[whisper]

Arm strength is probably 3rd on the list of gotta have traits for a franchise QB.
Heard an interesting stat today. Teams that score first in the NFL win 70% of the time. More often than not the Steelers have been playing from behind. Add to this an OC that seems to struggle putting together a professional game plan and it's kind of sad. KP was putting some nice throws out there and moving the ball before halftime so what does Canada do on the first possession after the half? A run with Najee for 2 yds.
The Steelers are consistently in 3rd and long a lot of times. This makes it doubly hard on the rookie QB. I watched some of the BAL game and LJ was in 3rd and short a majority of the game.

This O constantly puts us in 3rd and long; some wasted runs by Najee to start each series and we often find ourselves in 3rd and 8, or with penalties, 3rd and 15.

[Chucktownsteeler]

That's another good point. How many drives start: run, run, pass, punt? Way too predictable. This offense would suck in the 70's.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

I don't think the first INT was his fault.

But I think he made mistakes on the 2nd and 3rd ones.

The point of this year is to have him learn IMO.

Hopefully he doesn't make the same mistakes multiple times (or at least not too frequently).

I agree but whispers it's the lack of arm strength. Just what until is gets cold and the ball is harder to throw.

[Northern_Blitz]

Its not velocity, its decision making. He made 2 bad decisions.

Last one was a terrible decision given how much green he had in from of him. I know we were out of time outs but I think he could’ve picked up a first down and scooted out of bounds.

If anything, he should’ve thrown to the back corner of the endzone. Just a bad mistake on Kenny’s part.

I mostly agree with this.

Maybe some extra zip helps in the 2nd pick.

The last pick was just a brutal decision IMO.

But that's how rookies learn. This team isn't going to to do anything meaningful this year in the standings. So let the kid make mistakes and see what he learns from them.

Same reason we should have played him more in the preseason IMO.

[Eich]

That's another good point. How many drives start: run, run, pass, punt? Way too predictable. This offense would suck in the 70's.

Well, run, run, pass... whatever.. would work if we had a road grating OL and Jerome Bettis running. The problem is that everyone knows we're running on first down and our OL isn't yet dominant enough to make a hole anyway. Couple that with a RB that can't make his own holes and we have run, run 3rd-and-less-than-favorable.

Making THIS offense work, requires some creativity to keep defenses guessing. And that has rarely happened.