PRO BOWL VOTE PROVES TOMLIN’S VALUE TO STEELERS

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  • NKySteeler
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    • May 2008
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    PRO BOWL VOTE PROVES TOMLIN’S VALUE TO STEELERS

    Posted by Mike Florio on December 16, 2008

    Steeler Nation currently is up in arms regarding the fact that only three members of the team — James Harrison, James Farrior, and Troy Polamalu — won a spot on the the AFC Pro Bowl roster, with only two of them (Harrison and Polamalu) named as starters.

    But let’s be objective. Look at the full roster, and ask yourself if the Steelers’ starters at the other positions are better than the guys who made it.

    Running back Willie Parker has been too banged up, and quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has spent too much time running for his life. The offensive line has more holes than Andy Reid’s donut stash. Receiver Hines Ward doesn’t have the numbers, and receiver Santonio Holmes hasn’t exactly put together a breakout year in that supposedly critical third season for a wideout.

    On defense, the cornerbacks are good but not close to the three who made it (Asomugha, Finnegan, Revis), and the defensive line has no dominant presence that can overcome the stats-suppressing 3-4 system.

    The only guy with a real beef is linebacker LaMarr Woodley, who should have made it over Suggs. Even then, however, it’s a close call.

    In our view, the entire exercise draws into clear focus the value of second-year coach Mike Tomlin to the Steelers. With a lineup not stocked with the best players in the league, Tomlin has led his team capably through one of the toughest schedules in NFL history.

    The fact that the Steelers stand on the brink of swiping the No. 1 seed in the AFC playoffs from the Titans underscores the brilliance of Tomlin’s work.

    And so the real snub that should send Steelers fans en masse toward 280 Park Avenue with pitchforks and torches would be a Coach of the Year designation that goes to anyone other than Tomlin.

    For more on the Steelers’ incredible season and Tomlin’s responsibility for it, we give you a little PFTV.


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  • agdci981

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    Re: PRO BOWL VOTE PROVES TOMLIN’S VALUE TO STEELERS

    Well I already know I am going to come off as a BUT I wouldn't necesarily say that the Pro Bowl voting proves Tomlin's worth. Pro Bowl is alot of popularity and this whole defense could have made it if it was based on actual play and not the name on the back of the jersey. The offense has been bad and has only declined under Tomlin as opposed to Cowher. I would say that with an offensive minded coach we may have a player or two on the offensive side of the ball going as well as the 3 on the defensive side.

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    • anjang86
      Rookie
      • Dec 2008
      • 41

      #3
      Re: PRO BOWL VOTE PROVES TOMLIN’S VALUE TO STEELERS

      Originally posted by NKySteeler
      Posted by Mike Florio on December 16, 2008

      Steeler Nation currently is up in arms regarding the fact that only three members of the team — James Harrison, James Farrior, and Troy Polamalu — won a spot on the the AFC Pro Bowl roster, with only two of them (Harrison and Polamalu) named as starters.

      But let’s be objective. Look at the full roster, and ask yourself if the Steelers’ starters at the other positions are better than the guys who made it.

      Running back Willie Parker has been too banged up, and quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has spent too much time running for his life. The offensive line has more holes than Andy Reid’s donut stash. Receiver Hines Ward doesn’t have the numbers, and receiver Santonio Holmes hasn’t exactly put together a breakout year in that supposedly critical third season for a wideout.

      On defense, the cornerbacks are good but not close to the three who made it (Asomugha, Finnegan, Revis), and the defensive line has no dominant presence that can overcome the stats-suppressing 3-4 system.

      The only guy with a real beef is linebacker LaMarr Woodley, who should have made it over Suggs. Even then, however, it’s a close call.

      In our view, the entire exercise draws into clear focus the value of second-year coach Mike Tomlin to the Steelers. With a lineup not stocked with the best players in the league, Tomlin has led his team capably through one of the toughest schedules in NFL history.

      The fact that the Steelers stand on the brink of swiping the No. 1 seed in the AFC playoffs from the Titans underscores the brilliance of Tomlin’s work.

      And so the real snub that should send Steelers fans en masse toward 280 Park Avenue with pitchforks and torches would be a Coach of the Year designation that goes to anyone other than Tomlin.
      You can argue that Tomlin gets the most out of his players, but I don't think using the Probowl example really fits here. Like adgc said, the Probowl doesn't tell me who the superstars in the league are.

      Also, you are saying the CBs in the Probowl right now are better than Ike? I beg to differ on that one. Aaron Smith doesn't deserve to go? You could even make an argument for Ben.

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      • Slapstick
        Rookie
        • May 2008
        • 0

        #4
        Re: PRO BOWL VOTE PROVES TOMLIN’S VALUE TO STEELERS

        Originally posted by agdci981
        Well I already know I am going to come off as a BUT I wouldn't necesarily say that the Pro Bowl voting proves Tomlin's worth. Pro Bowl is alot of popularity and this whole defense could have made it if it was based on actual play and not the name on the back of the jersey. The offense has been bad and has only declined under Tomlin as opposed to Cowher. I would say that with an offensive minded coach we may have a player or two on the offensive side of the ball going as well as the 3 on the defensive side.
        But, would the Steelers be 11-3? That is the most important question...

        Let the speculation begin!!
        Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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        • flippy
          Legend
          • Dec 2008
          • 17088

          #5
          Re: PRO BOWL VOTE PROVES TOMLIN’S VALUE TO STEELERS

          maybe it says how good everyone on the defense is playing.

          no question, we're playing out of this world on D. and the fact that the majority of the team doesn't have standout stats means everyone is contributing at a very high level.
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          • feltdizz
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 27531

            #6
            Re: PRO BOWL VOTE PROVES TOMLIN’S VALUE TO STEELERS

            Originally posted by agdci981
            Well I already know I am going to come off as a BUT I wouldn't necesarily say that the Pro Bowl voting proves Tomlin's worth. Pro Bowl is alot of popularity and this whole defense could have made it if it was based on actual play and not the name on the back of the jersey. The offense has been bad and has only declined under Tomlin as opposed to Cowher. I would say that with an offensive minded coach we may have a player or two on the offensive side of the ball going as well as the 3 on the defensive side.
            I would.... our D is great.. but it's primarily based on assignment and not on individual play. This is why it's so hard for players to grasp it.

            Your assignment is usually a spot on the field and a lot of players just can't grasp that concept. They naturally want to make the play or run to the man... and that causes breakdowns.

            Look at the holding stats someone posted. We have the #1 D and for 6 games their opponent has yet to be called for a holding call...
            This lets me know the O, while rough, is getting hosed by the refs IMO. Look at the 4th quarter stats on O, 41-0 in the last 6 minutes of games lately.

            Our O is decent but the refs IMO and dropped passes!!! are the reason the O looks as bad as they do...

            ST is also better... although last game they weren't.
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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