Quit with the no talent or rebuilding excuse

[whatever]

All we heard over the years is how bens contract and his play is holding the team and Tomlin back.
Well, Ben is gone and the Steelers had more cap space than they’ve had in a decade. The were big players in FA, signing numerous guys at a variety of positions.
No excuse here.
If you go back and read all the comments after each of our draft picks the past decade, you can clearly see how great/good every last one of our picks were. They were all deemed starters, future starters or solid depth.
If a person dared to say otherwise, they were instantly called a non fan. They were told to trust the Rooney’s.
A side note too. Go back and read all the support Canada had when he was hired.
We were told Ben is holding Canada back. They told us that Canada would use our players to their strengths, run 2 Te sets, use a fb, call qb sneaks, take shots down the field, etc etc etc.
Well, 5 weeks into the season and all of a sudden, Canada need to be fired and all our starters, draft picks and FAs are no good.
I’m still Trying to figure out how the second best HC in the league can’t win with yet another loaded team.
How is this possible?
Somewhere and somehow, lots of ‘fans’ here have been terribly wrong.

[whatever]

Hmmm, 17 views without a response.
Must be all the ones I’m talking about.

[Rocky Mtn]

Hmmm, 17 views without a response.
Must be all the ones I’m talking about.

I certainly believe there is enough talent to win . Scratching my head in frustration.

[Terrapin]

Let's take a look.

On offense, we have a 1st rd rookie QB, who replaced a QB that was selected 2nd overall. We have a 1st rd RB, a high 2nd rd TE, the 'best WR corps in the league', and some 'solid' free agent OL that were brought in.

Our highest paid D in the league has plenty of stars and high draft picks. We have no corners, but despite it being a passing league, Tomlin has never placed any stock in them.

We have one of the better kickers in the league.

Point is, there are only two explanations for this pathetic play. Either, the coaching staff is not putting these star players in positions to succeed, or, the coaching staff (and Colbert) drastically overrated these players. I"m curious to hear from our resident experts here which one they think it is

[The Man of Steel]

The Steelers do have individual talent but collectively they do not mesh at all and that is a problem that obviously falls mainly on the coaching staff.

[feltdizz]

Kind of hypocritical for the OP to say we have talent when every draft he calls fans out for claiming they are delusional for saying we have all the steals of the draft.

Anyway.. when folks say things like “we have all these first rounders what they fail to realize is over half of them were players who didn’t live up to their draft status so they were available on the cheap.

Its like buying a luxury car from a used car dealership that used to be a gas station. Sure, its a Benz but it probably has 185K miles on it and a rebuilt engine.

Last but mot least, while this season may be a wash.. there are plenty of talented teams sitting at 1-4 or 2-3. Maybe this is the year we finally have that losing season but one thing I always knew was as soon as Ben retired and we had a “rebuild” certain fans would act like it was the end of the world.

Which is why its hilarious when people get upset over the 15 years without a losing season.. because every time it feels like its going to be our first losing season under Tomlin the pitchforks come out.

We looked horrible last week but it still only counts as 1 loss. This team has talent but the question is how much?

[feltdizz]

I certainly believe there is enough talent to win . Scratching my head in frustration.

sure, we should’ve won the Jets game and the Pats game. The problem is when talent had chances to shine, it didn’t.

DB was in perfect position for an INT in the Pats game. A more talented player Moss’d the DB and scored a TD. Gunner was supposed to be a solid pick up, he failed to catch a routine punt.

Jets game, Claypool has a chance to prove he is a good WR. He failed. Pickett’s toss to Warren may have ended up as a huge gain or even a TD. Bad pitch pit us behind the sticks.

Sometimes its the little things and we have to find ways to overcome it.

One of the problems is the only player on D who seems to make plays cost us 30 mill a year. Would be nice if some of these cheaper players could make a play at a critical time.

I think Northcoast said it best. We are missing on too many players who may have physical ability but lack the mental fortitude when its crunch time. SH doesn’t have it and we paid him way too much. Claypool doesn’t have it. Bush lost his edge when he lost his leg and doesn’t have it anymore.

Have to find more Leal’s and Warrens in these drafts and FA’s.

and please stop acquiring these Gunner type players and these projects or cast offs. They are available for a reason. Spend some money on proven players and stop trying to fix draft bust.

Hopefully Khan can do some things but I fear it will be more of the same.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

All we heard over the years is how bens contract and his play is holding the team and Tomlin back.
Well, Ben is gone and the Steelers had more cap space than they’ve had in a decade. The were big players in FA, signing numerous guys at a variety of positions.
No excuse here.
If you go back and read all the comments after each of our draft picks the past decade, you can clearly see how great/good every last one of our picks were. They were all deemed starters, future starters or solid depth.
If a person dared to say otherwise, they were instantly called a non fan. They were told to trust the Rooney’s.
A side note too. Go back and read all the support Canada had when he was hired.
We were told Ben is holding Canada back. They told us that Canada would use our players to their strengths, run 2 Te sets, use a fb, call qb sneaks, take shots down the field, etc etc etc.
Well, 5 weeks into the season and all of a sudden, Canada need to be fired and all our starters, draft picks and FAs are no good.
I’m still Trying to figure out how the second best HC in the league can’t win with yet another loaded team.
How is this possible?
Somewhere and somehow, lots of ‘fans’ here have been terribly wrong.

They were all wrong. So be it. I certainly never said ANY of that, down to 2nd best HC - I'm critical of him, too.

I've hated play calling since Arians left and always claimed that it was holding BEN back. Which is where I've continuously faulted the HC - his desire for the short-passing game has limited the teams potential for a decade. I also dislike his desire to not have a traditional NT, and instead have someone who helps in pass rushing. I don't see the point of 2 extra sacks at the expense of a lesser run-stuffer in crunch time. It's not a smart decision.

Having said all that, this is not a team without talent, but it does need better play calling and better QB play. The latter will come as KP gains experience. Not knowing much about him, he has certainly flashed potential in what I've seen. The defense also has holes, in addition to missing a future HOF player.

Call me crazy, but as it stands, I still see 6+ wins out of this team - and I'll repeat that after they get thumped by Tampa before getting into a softer part of the schedule

[Bawb the Revelator]

They were all wrong. So be it. I certainly never said ANY of that, down to 2nd best HC - I'm critical of him, too.

I've hated play calling since Arians left and always claimed that it was holding BEN back. Which is where I've continuously faulted the HC - his desire for the short-passing game has limited the teams potential for a decade. I also dislike his desire to not have a traditional NT, and instead have someone who helps in pass rushing. I don't see the point of 2 extra sacks at the expense of a lesser run-stuffer in crunch time. It's not a smart decision.

Having said all that, this is not a team without talent, but it does need better play calling and better QB play. The latter will come as KP gains experience. Not knowing much about him, he has certainly flashed potential in what I've seen. The defense also has holes, in addition to missing a future HOF player.

Call me crazy, but as it stands, I still see 6+ wins out of this team - and I'll repeat that after they get thumped by Tampa before getting into a softer part of the schedule

Who knows. MAYBE KP8's good enuf. If so it's a big rebuild plus. By the time the Steelers are SB contenders again, Tomlin will be rich enough to retire with dignity.

[LPMAN]

Tomlin very over rated...NUFF SAID

[whisper]

tomlin very over rated...nuff said

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[TheRealTazz864]

Who knows. MAYBE KP8's good enuf. If so it's a big rebuild plus. By the time the Steelers are SB contenders again, Tomlin will be rich enough to retire with dignity.

I think he was rich enough and could have retired 5 years ago with dignity... I don't see the Steelers as rebuilding... they are just replacing one future HoF QB with another... The hardest thing to do is replace an injured TJ Watt... Coach Austin, I'm lookin' at you to do your job... The defense can't use 5 defenders to try to equal TJ's "want-to..." Each of the five has to have TJ's "want-to," not one-fifth of TJ's "want-to..." It's the job of the DC to motivate the defense exponentially to make up for the loss of the DPOY... Do your job, Austin....

[Bawb the Revelator]

I think he was rich enough and could have retired 5 years ago with dignity... I don't see the Steelers as rebuilding... they are just replacing one future HoF QB with another... The hardest thing to do is replace an injured TJ Watt... Coach Austin, I'm lookin' at you to do your job... The defense can't use 5 defenders to try to equal TJ's "want-to..." Each of the five has to have TJ's "want-to," not one-fifth of TJ's "want-to..." It's the job of the DC to motivate the defense exponentially to make up for the loss of the DPOY... Do your job, Austin....

i suggested Najee's POSSIBLE lisfranc as one factor elsewhere. Does being a Steeler Lifer require White House Kremlinologist Skills?

Tell 'em to just STFU and quit embarrassing yourselves. At least LeBron and the LA Lakers are amusing.