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  • NorthCoast
    Legend
    • Sep 2008
    • 26636

    N Harris = T Richardson??

    Sobering;
    The Pittsburgh Steelers gave rookie quarterback Kenny Pickett his first career start on Sunday against a Buffalo Bills team that might be the most complete in...


    3 Takeaways from Steelers' Week 5 Loss vs. Bills

    KRISTOPHER KNOX
    OCTOBER 10, 2022

    The Pittsburgh Steelers gave rookie quarterback Kenny Pickett his first career start on Sunday against a Buffalo Bills team that might be the most complete in the AFC. The result was what many expected but not at all what Steelers fans were hoping to see.

    Pickett failed to provide much of an offensive spark, the defense was a sieve and Pittsburgh suffered the most lopsided loss in recent memory. The 35-point margin was the worst since the Steelers lost 51-0 to the Cleveland Browns back in 1989.

    Buffalo is a title contender, and Pittsburgh is not. The loss isn't the surprise here. The shock came from seeing a Mike Tomlin-coached team fail to play competitively at any point in the game.

    The season isn't over at 1-4, but Sunday's defeat showed that the Steelers are a second-tier team at best. Here's what else we learned from Pittsburgh's 38-3 loss to Buffalo in Week 5.

    Najee Harris Might Not Be as Special as We Thought
    1 OF 3

    We could talk about Pickett's rough day (34-of-52 for 327 yards, 1 INT), but there's little to take away from that. Any rookie playing on the road against a terrific Buffalo defense is likely to struggle.

    The bigger takeaway offensively is that Pittsburgh just isn't getting enough out of running back Najee Harris. In games like this, the Steelers need to be able to support Pickett with at least a respectable rushing attack. Harris averaged 1.8 yards per carry with a long of six.

    Now, Buffalo did come in allowing just 3.5 yards per carry, and running was always going to be a challenge. However, Harris has been disappointing all season.

    The second-year back came in averaging just 3.5 yards per carry with a long of 16. He has one rushing touchdown on the season and only 13 receptions through five weeks. It's been a far cry from what we saw last year (74 receptions, 1,667 scrimmage yards and 10 TDs).

    Harris was a Pro Bowler as a rookie and, at times, appeared to be a franchise-caliber back who could carry the offense in the post-Ben Roethlisberger era. Unfortunately for the Steelers, the Alabama product may be closer to Trent Richardson than Derrick Henry.

    Richardson was also impressive as a rookie back in 2012, finishing with 1,317 scrimmage yards and 12 touchdowns. Like Harris, though, he averaged less than 4.0 yards per carry in his first season. Cleveland traded him in year two, and Richardson only lasted three seasons in the NFL.

    Harris probably won't flame out hard as Richardson did, but his rookie success may have been a mirage.


    T.J. Watt Isn't Going to Save This Defense
    2 OF 3

    The Steelers didn't get any favors from their defense in this game. Buffalo racked up 552 yards of offense, went 5-of-9 on third down and didn't punt until the fourth quarter. The Bills moved quickly down the field too, tallying 38 points despite holding the ball for less than 24 minutes.

    While Bills quarterback Josh Allen (424 yards, 4 TDs) did throw one interception, he was not sacked. Buffalo averaged 6.7 yards per carry in the ground game.

    The Bills offense is loaded with talent, but Pittsburgh's struggle to slow it continued to highlight a disappointing reality. This defense is bad. While the Steelers came in ranked 15th in points allowed, they ranked 24th in run defense, 21st in pass defense and 24th in total defense.

    The defense was dealt a major blow in Week 1 when reigning Defensive Player of the Year T.J. Watt suffered a torn pectoral. Watt is expected to return this season, but according to ESPN's Brooke Pryor and Adam Schefter, that return will be delayed by arthroscopic knee surgery.

    The Steelers may want to seriously consider letting Watt just rest and recover for the rest of the season. While Pittsburgh does have quality defensive players—like Cameron Heyward and Minkah Fitzpatrick—the unit as a whole is incapable of carrying this team. The defense would be better with Watt on the field, but the 27-year-old isn't going to reforge the Steel Curtain with his return.

    The Steelers Know That This Is a Transition Year
    3 OF 3

    This is actually a takeaway from mid-week, when the Steelers announced that Pickett would start over Mitch Trubisky. Pickett replaced Trubisky at halftime against the New York Jets last week, but head coach Mike Tomlin could have painted that decision as a grasp for a spark and gone back to the veteran for Week 5.

    He didn't, and it speaks volumes. A Bills' first-ranked defense that features the likes of Gregory Rousseau and Von Miller is not ideal for a starting debut. Next week's game against a tough Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense won't be much easier.

    It's clear that the Steelers aren't looking to ease in Pickett and want to see what he can do right away. That wouldn't be the case if Pittsburgh believed it had a chance of contending in 2022. The way the last four games have gone, the Steelers feel more likely to end up with a top-five draft selection than a playoff berth.

    The Steelers have never experienced a losing season under Tomlin, but it's likely to happen this year, and the front office knows it. This is a transition season, and changes other than the one at quarterback may be coming.

    "You play like we played today, you've got to be open to doing whatever is required to change the outcome of these games," Tomlin said, per CBS Sports' Bryan DeArdo.

    And the Steelers need to get a long look at Pickett because if the losing continues, they may have a shot at a prospect like C.J. Stroud or Bryce Young in the 2023 draft. Would new GM Omar Khan draft a first-round quarterback a year after the Steelers took Pickett? That depends entirely on how the rookie progresses over the final 12 weeks.
  • feltdizz
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 27531

    #2
    Najee looks bad but we all saw his injury in week 1. He doesn’t look the same and its probably a combo of his foot and high ankle sprain.

    He looks bad, but the drop off is so far it def appears injury related.
    Steelers 27
    Rats 16

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    • Terrapin
      Pro Bowler
      • Sep 2017
      • 2081

      #3
      I never thought he was great, but he's definitely playing injured. Good thing he got those valuable reps in preseason games instead of healing up

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      • NorthCoast
        Legend
        • Sep 2008
        • 26636

        #4
        Originally posted by feltdizz
        Najee looks bad but we all saw his injury in week 1. He doesn’t look the same and its probably a combo of his foot and high ankle sprain.

        He looks bad, but the drop off is so far it def appears injury related.
        Then why on God's green earth are they not giving Warren more reps or checking the waiver wire for another body? We get it. Harris is Tomlin's boy. But for a HC that preaches 'the tape will tell us who is going to get more play time" he sure isn't practicing it with Harris.

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        • NJ-STEELER
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 12563

          #5
          Originally posted by Terrapin
          I never thought he was great, but he's definitely playing injured. Good thing he got those valuable reps in preseason games instead of healing up
          don’t forget trying to leap over players that aren’t even going down.
          dumb reckless play.

          what he needs to do instead of bulking up in the off-season is lose 10-15 pounds.
          he’s lost sone notable quickness

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          • Joel Buchsbaum
            Legend
            • Jan 2021
            • 7744

            #6
            Originally posted by feltdizz
            Najee looks bad but we all saw his injury in week 1. He doesn’t look the same and its probably a combo of his foot and high ankle sprain.

            He looks bad, but the drop off is so far it def appears injury related.
            An injury. But Tomlin played him in the last pre-season game ( we should have rested him ) and I didn't see him on the injury report. What was he listed as for week two?
            Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

            Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

            *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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            • feltdizz
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 27531

              #7
              Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
              An injury. But Tomlin played him in the last pre-season game ( we should have rested him ) and I didn't see him on the injury report. What was he listed as for week two?
              Anyone with 2 eyes could tell that hit in the Bengals game was a problem. He’s flexible but legs aren’t made to bend like that.
              Steelers 27
              Rats 16

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              • Chucktownsteeler
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 6849

                #8
                Maybe he needs to sit this week. Something has to change.
                Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

                I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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                • Joel Buchsbaum
                  Legend
                  • Jan 2021
                  • 7744

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Chucktownsteeler
                  Maybe he needs to sit this week. Something has to change.
                  Yes it does.
                  Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                  Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                  *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                  • whisper
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2020
                    • 9423

                    #10
                    Originally posted by NorthCoast
                    Then why on God's green earth are they not giving Warren more reps or checking the waiver wire for another body? We get it. Harris is Tomlin's boy. But for a HC that preaches 'the tape will tell us who is going to get more play time" he sure isn't practicing it with Harris.
                    That's per usual with Shades: speaks well but doesn't even follow his own rhetoric. We call that being a phony around these parts.

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                    • brothervad
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 1914

                      #11
                      I have had a nagging feeling since last season that Najee lacks the vision/burst to either hit a hole or bounce it outside if no hole is available. I wouldn't say that I saw it all the time last year, but I did see some moments where I thought he had a missed opportunity.

                      I chalked it up to me not being skilled and an armchair critic, but I also chalk it up to he was a rookie and the OL sucks.

                      I have seen similar moments this year.

                      I guess the explanation is something is wrong with him (injury) and he doesn't have the burst because of the lisfranc injury.


                      Ok but if it is an injury then it is on the Head Coach to sit him and give #30 the reps. No excuses.

                      But if I am on the offhand right, I do not think the vision thing is gonna get better...and this will be a disappointing first round pick.

                      Regardless, no decision is going to be made on this anytime soon...look no further than Big D where Zeke has been living off of his reputation/love of owner.

                      Brothervad

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                      • Northern_Blitz
                        Legend
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 24373

                        #12
                        Originally posted by NorthCoast
                        Then why on God's green earth are they not giving Warren more reps or checking the waiver wire for another body? We get it. Harris is Tomlin's boy. But for a HC that preaches 'the tape will tell us who is going to get more play time" he sure isn't practicing it with Harris.
                        Hard to argue against this imo.

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                        • Steel Maniac
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 19472

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                          Hard to argue against this imo.
                          When you don't put your best guys out there, regardless of ego or position, then your doing the entire team a disservice.

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                          • hawaiiansteel
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 35649

                            #14
                            I wonder what Najee's 40 yard dash time is?

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                            • Joel Buchsbaum
                              Legend
                              • Jan 2021
                              • 7744

                              #15
                              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                              I wonder what Najee's 40 yard dash time is?
                              Is 4. too slow
                              Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                              Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                              *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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