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  • Eich
    Legend
    • Jul 2010
    • 6925

    #16
    Originally posted by Oviedo
    Mitch was not the problem last night. Was it me or were the vast majority of the passes down the sidelines?

    Why are we ignoring the middle of the field?

    That's not Mitch, that's Canada.
    I'm no Canada fan but I'm not convinced that it's all Canada. Mitch isn't seeing the field well. I've seen more than one replay that shows a receiver open that he never finds. And his throws are erratic.

    Mitch was one of the problems last night. The offense worked well enough in the first half. But all those 3-and-outs in the 2nd were killers. I'm surprised we didn't lose by more.

    We're two players away from being able to compete. Watt on D. Kenny (or even Mason) on O.

    Mason got royally screwed IMO.

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    • Steel Maniac
      Banned
      • Apr 2017
      • 19472

      #17
      Originally posted by Eich
      I'm no Canada fan but I'm not convinced that it's all Canada. Mitch isn't seeing the field well. I've seen more than one replay that shows a receiver open that he never finds. And his throws are erratic.

      Mitch was one of the problems last night. The offense worked well enough in the first half. But all those 3-and-outs in the 2nd were killers. I'm surprised we didn't lose by more.

      We're two players away from being able to compete. Watt on D. Kenny (or even Mason) on O.

      Mason got royally screwed IMO.
      It’s not ALL Canada; but he’s a part of the problem for sure. The biggest part is we can’t run the ball with Harris but can’t leave out underwhelming WR play as well.

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      • Ernie
        Legend
        • Aug 2013
        • 8470

        #18
        Originally posted by Steel Maniac
        It’s not ALL Canada; but he’s a part of the problem for sure. The biggest part is we can’t run the ball with Harris but can’t leave out underwhelming WR play as well.
        This is a rational response..

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        • WindyCitySteel
          Legend
          • Nov 2011
          • 15461

          #19
          Originally posted by Oviedo
          Mitch was not the problem last night. Was it me or were the vast majority of the passes down the sidelines?

          Why are we ignoring the middle of the field?

          That's not Mitch, that's Canada.
          No, that's Mitch. There are routes over the middle on every play. Mitch wasn't the problem but he also wasn't the solution, if you need an average roster to play perfect football to prop up your QB, you're peeing into a fan.

          This is a QB driven league and we don't have one who can drive the team, at least not in Mitch or Mason. They're complementary players who need a lot of help.

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          • Ghost
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 6231

            #20
            Heading into last night's game, MT was 28th in off target %. He's played as a bottom tier QB in the NFL.
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            • Chucktownsteeler
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 6697

              #21
              Originally posted by Eich
              I'm no Canada fan but I'm not convinced that it's all Canada. Mitch isn't seeing the field well. I've seen more than one replay that shows a receiver open that he never finds. And his throws are erratic.

              Mitch was one of the problems last night. The offense worked well enough in the first half. But all those 3-and-outs in the 2nd were killers. I'm surprised we didn't lose by more.

              We're two players away from being able to compete. Watt on D. Kenny (or even Mason) on O.

              Mason got royally screwed IMO.
              I am thinking Kenny is going to be royally screwed as well.
              Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

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              • WindyCitySteel
                Legend
                • Nov 2011
                • 15461

                #22
                Mason stinks, he's not the solution, either. Don't know if Kenny is or not but we'd better try soon because this isn't working, and you can bet as the losses pile up they'll try to rush TJ back into the lineup, risking his career possibly.

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                • Joel Buchsbaum
                  Legend
                  • Jan 2021
                  • 7557

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Oviedo
                  Mitch was not the problem last night. Was it me or were the vast majority of the passes down the sidelines?

                  Why are we ignoring the middle of the field?

                  That's not Mitch, that's Canada.
                  It's both if them. Mitch doesn't like it throw it in the middle but if I had the film of the game, we see play of receivers going there. Mitch likes to plays it safe, and avoids interceptions, but that does not lead to many big plays or points! Canada play calling leaves a lot be desired too. Claypool used to be a good deep threat and Pickens is the same. We just don't see them featured very often! Unless Rudolph is the quarterback.
                  Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                  Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                  *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                  • Bawb the Revelator
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Jan 2022
                    • 1977

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                    It’s not ALL Canada; but he’s a part of the problem for sure. The biggest part is we can’t run the ball with Harris but can’t leave out underwhelming WR play as well.
                    If half the Steeler PSL holders put paper bags over their heads, will Mike Tomlin still be a Future NFL Hall Of Fame Head Coach

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                    • Joel Buchsbaum
                      Legend
                      • Jan 2021
                      • 7557

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Chucktownsteeler
                      That penalty was a back breaker. Why do you fall on a player when he is already down. We had their defense on its heels and it negated a 30-yard play.

                      Some penalties are like a turnover as the cancels out a 30 yard play and lead to a punt. That was one of them. Stupid play by Chucks to ruin our long play of the season.
                      Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                      Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                      *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                      • KYPITTFAN
                        Backup
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 388

                        #26
                        Mitch's night, a circus 36 yard catch (that hits his stats), garbage time passing yards, 1 out of 9 on 3rd down conversions, an INT if it were not for a toe on the white line in the endzone, three 3 and outs in a row second half. I have seen enough. Tomlin however will wait until the season is officially lost before even considering a QB change. If he is not ready for Pickett then put Ruddy in!!!!!.

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                        • KYPITTFAN
                          Backup
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 388

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                          Accuracy had nothing to do with 3 crucial drops I saw last night. DJ’s being the biggest one.
                          People want to talk about QB's being hurt by drops, that happens to all QB's. What about receivers catching what should be uncatchable balls or bad throws?

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                          • Northern_Blitz
                            Legend
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 23892

                            #28
                            Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                            Mason stinks, he's not the solution, either. Don't know if Kenny is or not but we'd better try soon because this isn't working, and you can bet as the losses pile up they'll try to rush TJ back into the lineup, risking his career possibly.
                            Interesting, I kind of thought the opposite on TJ.

                            That it makes sense to bring him back if we look competitive.

                            But if we suck (and so far I think we do), might as well let him get to 100%.

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                            • papillon
                              Legend
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 11337

                              #29
                              The O-line provided Mitch with time and he didn't take advantage of it. He's not getting it done and its doubtful if he will. He looks the part but can't play the part.
                              The D-line did fine in the first half but you can't be put back on the field after giving up a long drive (they happen). Three and outs kill a defense.
                              If not for a circus catch, Trubisky would have had 170 yards passing and he was 1/9 on 3rd down and the Steelers were still in the game.
                              I saw Pickett on the sideline with his helmet on after halftime (I'm thinking, this kid just wants to be on the field. Who stands around when you're not playing with their helmet on?), I thought Tomlin was going to pull the trigger and then he didn't.

                              Its time, a long week before the next game, get Pickett the reps and give him a chance, lets see what the Steelers have in the kid or if they need to dip into the quarterback pool again in the next draft.
                              I'd look to trade Trubisky, he isn't worth having on the team, the contract isn't devastating, he can backup some other starter on a team that realizes he's a backup and not the starter.

                              Pappy
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                              The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                              1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                              3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                              3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                              4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                              5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                              7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                              "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                              • Captain Lemming
                                Legend
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 15974

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                                We just don't see them featured very often! Unless Rudolph is the quarterback.
                                I think this makes the point that it's the QB.

                                It has nothing to do with being featured. Mason is confident in those throws Mitch is not.

                                But there is a reason for that. Mitch has NO BASIS for confidence in those throws.
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                                In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                                TCFCLTC-
                                The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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