Cam > Aaron Donald

[flippy]

Was listening to Cam’s podcast in the background yesterday and heard him going on about how he believes he’s as good or better than AD.

I don’t remember the whole spiel, but he was rattling off stats so he must think about this. Commented AD had 2.5 more sacks, but Cam has other stats like more tackles, more battle balls, an INT, etc that AD doesn’t have.

He acknowledged they play a little different, but that he’s just as good.

Never really heard Cam’s drive come thru like that before.

[NorthCoast]

Reminds me of the great Troy Polamalu vs Ed Reed debate. In Steeler fans' minds there is no debate. Both were good at what they did but no way I trade them for the other.

[NJ-STEELER]

Reminds me of the great Troy Polamalu vs Ed Reed debate. In Steeler fans' minds there is no debate. Both were good at what they did but no way I trade them for the other.

baltimorons actually think playing centerfield like Reed did was tougher then how we used Troy

[Captain Lemming]

baltimorons actually think playing centerfield like Reed did was tougher then how we used Troy

I used to be more Troy biased. Now I just realize they were different. Prototype free versus Prototype strong.

Who is the best safety ever-
Troy or Reed?

Ronnie Lott.
Strong, free, corner all rolled into one

[Captain Lemming]

I used to be more Troy biased. Now I just realize they were different. Prototype free versus Prototype strong.

Who is the best safety ever-
Troy or Reed?

Ronnie Lott.
Strong, free, corner all rolled into one

Came to a similar conclusion with the Rod versus Deon debate. Used to give Rod the edge for being a more aggressive tackler. Deon was "soft" I'd say.

But in retrospect, I do think Deon edges Rod (or anybody) in coverage. He scared QBs more.

If we were drafting today and both were in the draft, I'm not sure I wouldn't take Deon.

[NJ-STEELER]

I used to be more Troy biased. Now I just realize they were different. Prototype free versus Prototype strong.

Who is the best safety ever-
Troy or Reed?

Ronnie Lott.
Strong, free, corner all rolled into one

no argument there

[NJ-STEELER]

Came to a similar conclusion with the Rod versus Deon debate. Used to give Rod the edge for being a more aggressive tackler. Deon was "soft" I'd say.

But in retrospect, I do think Deon edges Rod (or anybody) in coverage. He scared QBs more.

If we were drafting today and both were in the draft, I'm not sure I wouldn't take Deon.

eh. It’s the sane arguement as Troy-Reed.
you have a complete player in rod.
yiu can run to Deion side at will.
c’mon. I expect better out of you

[Captain Lemming]

eh. It’s the sane arguement as Troy-Reed.
you have a complete player in rod.
yiu can run to Deion side at will.
c’mon. I expect better out of you

I know, the "all around" case has merit. It was my argument.

I agree on our guys are more complete. But I've come to value being the best at the core competency of a position more than versatility.

It think it's like how ppf shamelessly downgrades Watt because he in not good in coverage, something he does less and less. Dude is an EDGE RUSHER, and has no peer in job 1 of his position.

Yes you can run at Deon. You dont see people getting past him often running at him. He'd catch you and drag you down if he had to. Woodson of course is more likely to put you to sleep with a hit.

But fact is, the Niner and Cowboys did not need him to tackle the run that much. If you need an outside corner to make tons of tackles, your problems are not your corners.

[NJ-STEELER]

Rod is the better player.
it’s TACKLE football. Quit trying to justify Deion

[NorthCoast]

eh. It’s the sane arguement as Troy-Reed.
you have a complete player in rod.
yiu can run to Deion side at will.
c’mon. I expect better out of you

Yep. Deon 'Please-don't-make-me-tackle-someone' Sanders.

[Flasteel]

I used to be more Troy biased. Now I just realize they were different. Prototype free versus Prototype strong.

Who is the best safety ever-
Troy or Reed?

Ronnie Lott.
Strong, free, corner all rolled into one

I don't think you can call Troy P. a prototype of anything. He was one of the most unique players to ever play any position. He played safety like nobody ever has and nobody likely will again. You're right though, no sense in comparing them a whole lot, but it's a fun debate to see who is just behind Lott for all-time best.

As for Deion over Rod? C'mon man...no way. Listen to your younger self!

[hawaiiansteel]

sorry Cam, I think you're very good.

but I'll take Aaron Donald.

[flippy]

I don't think you can call Troy P. a prototype of anything. He was one of the most unique players to ever play any position. He played safety like nobody ever has and nobody likely will again. You're right though, no sense in comparing them a whole lot, but it's a fun debate to see who is just behind Lott for all-time best.

As for Deion over Rod? C'mon man...no way. Listen to your younger self!

one of the best interviews was when Ike was on Pat Mcafee when he was talking about a trick play Troy shut down against the Colts and Ike mentioned they always say Troy talks to Jesus and knows things no one else on the field knows about plays.

[papillon]

one of the best interviews was when Ike was on Pat Mcafee when he was talking about a trick play Troy shut down against the Colts and Ike mentioned they always say Troy talks to Jesus and knows things no one else on the field knows about plays.

You should hear McAfee talk about that and he actually had Polamalu on his podcast to discuss the play. It was a fake FG and Troy always lined in some gap (not the 'C' gap, whichever that is on a FG) but in this instance with the fake FG on and McAfee looks up and sees Troy in the C gap and had to call off the fake FG. He was pissed because he thought he had an easy TD.

You can google it and watch the interview with Troy and there is also a podcast where McAfee discusses the play without Troy and that's entertaining as well.

Pappy

[crushedspirit]

Cam is great for sure, but Donald is better.

Dude was dominant in the SB, and the true MVP. His impactful plays won that game IMHO. He's a game changer like no other at his position.