Harris speed. Wizard inaccuracy and no official 40 yard times on it

[Mr.wizard]

4.45 is fast for a 250 # man, don't you think. What is his 10 and 20 yard split? I don't want to tackle him, straight on in the open field.
It's the physics brother, it's just not the speed, it's the mass x acceleration that generates the force.
I ain't tackling him by myself.

Hell I dont want to tackle 250 running anywhere in the 4's

[Bawb the Revelator]

Hell I dont want to tackle 250 running anywhere in the 4's

With any luck you won't, Wiz, but don't push it too hard.

[brothervad]

A thread about 4.40 vs 4.45 vs 4.6

and actually thinking they can tell based on watching on TV or on a web?

Lmao

Look on the bright side Felt, at least it's about football not some random insane comment from Bob-o the Obfuscator.



Brothervad

[Northern_Blitz]

He may I dont know but it is irrelevant to what Joel is trying to do. He is saying Iied about the reported 40 time which is not true. Harris would still plenty fast if he ran a 4.6 so too me it doesnt matter if he is 4.4, 4.5, or 4.6 guy because you are talking about tenths of second. Joel is being ridiculous to the point where he says "He isn't a 4.4 guy, by my eye hes a 4.5 guy" as if anyone watching a guy on tv in pads carrying a football could tell that.

I agree that it's not possible to guess a speed to the tenth of a second by watching without a timer. So I think that part is silly.

But I think his overarching point before this silly part of the argument was that Harris doesn't have top end speed for an NFL back...maybe "breakaway speed" is a better way to put it?

I think that's true based on his play in the NFL and the little I've seen of his play in the NCAA.

But he does lots of other things well (fight for yards, catch out of the back field, blitz pick up, etc.). He's a good back...not unlike Bell in his prime (although their style is different). And maybe the best offensive player on the team at the moment.

[feltdizz]

Look on the bright side Felt, at least it's about football not some random insane comment from Bob-o the Obfuscator.



Brothervad

I finally had to block him. I try not to block anyone but dude begs for the ignore button

[whisper]

I agree that it's not possible to guess a speed to the tenth of a second by watching without a timer. So I think that part is silly.

But I think his overarching point before this silly part of the argument was that Harris doesn't have top end speed for an NFL back...maybe "breakaway speed" is a better way to put it?

I think that's true based on his play in the NFL and the little I've seen of his play in the NCAA.

But he does lots of other things well (fight for yards, catch out of the back field, blitz pick up, etc.). He's a good back...not unlike Bell in his prime (although their style is different). And maybe the best offensive player on the team at the moment.

Joel flat out bust Mr. Wizard in another lie. Bottom line. BUSTED, boom, mic drop.

[feltdizz]

No dizz 4.40 is really fast 4.45 is just fast, Joel really knows his stuff, he seens it on the teevee. Lol guy is joke.

This is a debate that I thought died down a week ago.

lmao at waking up and making a brand new thread to get things going.

never knew .15 seconds could bother someone so much.

[feltdizz]

Joel flat out bust Mr. Wizard in another lie. Bottom line. BUSTED, boom, mic drop.

you forgot gloat, gloat, gloat

[Monalo]

4.40, 4.45, 4.6 really doesn’t matter that much. Judging by his rookie year, Harris WILL be the next great Steeler RB.

Just look at the greatest Steelers (HOF) RBs.
Franco Harris – 4.8
Jerome Bettis – 4.7
Even the best Steelers RB in recent memory.
Lev Bell – 4.60
And the best Steeler WR in recent memory.
AB – 4.56.

[feltdizz]

4.40, 4.45, 4.6 really doesn’t matter that much. Judging by his rookie year, Harris WILL be the next great Steeler RB.

Just look at the greatest Steelers (HOF) RBs.
Franco Harris – 4.8
Jerome Bettis – 4.7
Even the best Steelers RB in recent memory.
Lev Bell – 4.60
And the best Steeler WR in recent memory.
AB – 4.56.

its hilarious because Najee could barely get to the LOS without being touched and people are questioning breakaway speed.

Can the man get a few season’s in before being ripped as some slow RB?

[BURGH86STEEL]

When it comes to speed I tend to think it matters most where a player accelerates to reach top speed. Some players accelerate early but lose speed later. Some players stay consistent. Some players have longer speed than others. Some players accelerate later.

In short, it seems some players accelerate at various points depending on different factors.

Some players play faster than other players regardless of 40 times.

Najee has NFL speed.

[Chucktownsteeler]

Truth be told 40-yard dash times mean very little if anything in the NFL.

[Prowler]

I am showing yours Mr Wizard. This isn't the first time you have lied / misrepresent things about things about football stuff either. I may start another thread about another player and list it. Don't worry I have no plans to make it personal by attacking you with bad words, the focus will be football related. Get ready to move some more goal posts if I do it. Of course you don't start any of your own threads, so me posting back to your ideas good or bad won't be found there. As they say it's easier to destroy some than create for mortal man.

As one other poster put it ,

Great job exposing the liar, Joel. You ever notice the ones defending him are the chronic liars like feltdizz, who don't care about the truth ,or about doing the right thing?

[hawaiiansteel]

Truth be told 40-yard dash times mean very little if anything in the NFL.

Jerry Rice 4.71

all you need to know about the importance of 40-yard dash times.

[NorthCoast]

This says he ran a pro day under 4.5:

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