Already seeing changes with Kahn

[WindyCitySteel]

1) Didn't waste time signing Minkah, these things usually drag until the week prior to opening day. Love it, Minkah can now fully prepare for the season, no need to "hold in"

2) Ogunjobi's 1-year, incentive laden deal. Steelers in the past have preferred a min 2-year deal to spread cap, or last year's foyer into voidable years deals, hopefully which we won't see more of. e.g., look at Mitch's Colbert deal vs. Kahn's Ogunjobi deal.

Let's hope there are changes in draft philosophy, too, regarding trades down.

[Iron City Inc.]

OK will define his own path on the drafting of players , contracts, and accumulation of draft capital. One thing we need to get better at is draft capital.
In the past we have been to loyal to vets and sadly this is a cold business and there are times when a vet needs to be cut or moved for ROI. Foster was a perfect example of this a few years back when his legs were gone and we kept him around anyway. Perhaps with the Ben era gone that thinking will be fresh.
So we do have a few vets who could bring some back end draft selections to us. Rudolph , Haeg, Spillane perhaps Snell could all be in play for a late round return. If we look back at getting Beachum in the 7th that year we had four (4) 7th rounders. Point being more capital more likely you hit on selections.
It will be interesting to see how OK performs over these next few years. His performance is critical in our future success or failure.

[Shawn]

1) Didn't waste time signing Minkah, these things usually drag until the week prior to opening day. Love it, Minkah can now fully prepare for the season, no need to "hold in"

2) Ogunjobi's 1-year, incentive laden deal. Steelers in the past have preferred a min 2-year deal to spread cap, or last year's foyer into voidable years deals, hopefully which we won't see more of. e.g., look at Mitch's Colbert deal vs. Kahn's Ogunjobi deal.

Let's hope there are changes in draft philosophy, too, regarding trades down.

Yeah, I like what I see from Kahn so far.

[Shawn]

OK will define his own path on the drafting of players , contracts, and accumulation of draft capital. One thing we need to get better at is draft capital.
In the past we have been to loyal to vets and sadly this is a cold business and there are times when a vet needs to be cut or moved for ROI. Foster was a perfect example of this a few years back when his legs were gone and we kept him around anyway. Perhaps with the Ben era gone that thinking will be fresh.
So we do have a few vets who could bring some back end draft selections to us. Rudolph , Haeg, Spillane perhaps Snell could all be in play for a late round return. If we look back at getting Beachum in the 7th that year we had four (4) 7th rounders. Point being more capital more likely you hit on selections.
It will be interesting to see how OK performs over these next few years. His performance is critical in our future success or failure.

It's a business where you have to know how to find and keep value that's hard to replace. It's also about letting go of real talent that is too expensive and you can get cheaper. It's my point on WRs. I think it's one of the positions you can get away with starters all on rookie contracts and still win a SB. Paying Minkah made sense. Who I worry about is Najee. When it comes time he will be wanting top RB money He will be wanting 16-17 million a year at least. I do think the Steelers pay him but RBs on second contracts always concern me.

[WindyCitySteel]

So we do have a few vets who could bring some back end draft selections to us. Rudolph , Haeg, Spillane perhaps Snell could all be in play for a late round return.

Rudolph may pull a day 3 pick, none of the other would move the needle with other GMs.

[Iron City Inc.]

Rudolph may pull a day 3 pick, none of the other would move the needle with other GMs.

Well if you're thin on the depth chart behind the starter , obviously these guys are back ups, it's possible for some interest. Especially a contender with say one feature back , or your thin at swing T, or thin at ILB it's always possible. Injuries happen all the time.
We were almost always on the buying end of these small moves under Colbert. Perhaps we can be more of the seller in these cases of a small trade in the future is all I'm suggesting.

[Iron City Inc.]

It's a business where you have to know how to find and keep value that's hard to replace. It's also about letting go of real talent that is too expensive and you can get cheaper. It's my point on WRs. I think it's one of the positions you can get away with starters all on rookie contracts and still win a SB. Paying Minkah made sense. Who I worry about is Najee. When it comes time he will be wanting top RB money He will be wanting 16-17 million a year at least. I do think the Steelers pay him but RBs on second contracts always concern me.

So would it be fair to say moving a wr like DJ would be a move you would be okay with ? Of course the ROI would have to be very good. I'm on board with this though I like DJ the addition of Pickens Austin, Boykin n Olsewski plus Claypool seems like a deep enough room imho.

[Shawn]

So would it be fair to say moving a wr like DJ would be a move you would be okay with ? Of course the ROI would have to be very good. I'm on board with this though I like DJ the addition of Pickens Austin, Boykin n Olsewski plus Claypool seems like a deep enough room imho.

Yes, I would move on from DJ. I think he is a good 1b WR. But he isn't worth the money. He isn't AB. We can replace his production cheaper.

[WindyCitySteel]

If you don't get more than a 3rd for DJ, just wait for the comp pick a year after and let him help your team in 2022. At least start the season with him, if they're bottoming out at the trade deadline, different story.

[NorthCoast]

The one Steelers tradition I hope Kahn doesn't change is the 'no negotiations once the season starts'. This serves as a great urgency line not to be crossed by agents, players, or team.

[Shawn]

If you don't get more than a 3rd for DJ, just wait for the comp pick a year after and let him help your team in 2022. At least start the season with him, if they're bottoming out at the trade deadline, different story.

I fully agree with this.

[WindyCitySteel]

The one Steelers tradition I hope Kahn doesn't change is the 'no negotiations once the season starts'. This serves as a great urgency line not to be crossed by agents, players, or team.

Eh, don't mind breaking that one. The one time they did guaranteed Bettis would be back in 1997 and beyond.

[whisper]

Eh, don't mind breaking that one. The one time they did guaranteed Bettis would be back in 1997 and beyond.

They also stopped the archaic "we don't make 1 year deals" that they used to stick to. Why? Dumb rule, glad they changed that.

[Captain Lemming]

It's a business where you have to know how to find and keep value that's hard to replace. It's also about letting go of real talent that is too expensive and you can get cheaper. It's my point on WRs. I think it's one of the positions you can get away with starters all on rookie contracts and still win a SB. Paying Minkah made sense. Who I worry about is Najee. When it comes time he will be wanting top RB money He will be wanting 16-17 million a year at least. I do think the Steelers pay him but RBs on second contracts always concern me.

Money post Shawn….I mean LITERALLY “money” post.

[WindyCitySteel]

Bump. This isn't entirely new, they did deal Holmes before his rookie contract was up, but it was his last year and he was suspended for violating the substance abuse policy.

Anyway, gives me hope that they'll address free agency differently this year, i.e. quality over quantity.