Can we trade Rudolph? What is his trade value?

[WindyCitySteel]

They didn't draft Pickett to be a backup (big picture).. but they certainly havent named him the day 1 starter either. I see no problem with letting him sit for a year if Trubisky wins the job in camp.

I'm OK with that if Pickett looks lost, but if they both look good and someone's top QB goes down in August?

Have to think long and hard about that.

[feltdizz]

I doubt it. Anyways.. if our OL ends up being no better than last year.. do you seriously want to rush Pickett out there to get destroyed?
I've seen Cleveland ruin many QBs over the years by mismanaging rookie QBs.. some of them better prospects than Pickett.
MT's worth more than what wed get for him at this point...

I think as long as a team has confidence in a rookie QB they can't get mismanaged by playing too early. Who were these Stain QB's that would've played better if they weren't rushed? They just weren't that good.. lol

Ben, Russell, Luck, Cam, Manning weren't mismanaged by playing them early. They came out slinging.

Look at Mason.. he sat and hasn't really benefited. Herbert sat a few games and looked good the moment he played. Is it because he sat or is it because he has IT?

and check this stat out:
Since 2006, no team that drafted a quarterback in the first two rounds sat him for the entirety of his rookie season and then saw him become a long-term franchise quarterback.

Gotta play these QB's early these days. No reason to wait.

[whatever]

I happen to think he's worth more than a 5th rounder.

I do also but it was t like teams were throwing money at him in FA.
Now they’d also have to throw a high pick?

[WindyCitySteel]

and check this stat out:
Since 2006, no team that drafted a quarterback in the first two rounds sat him for the entirety of his rookie season and then saw him become a long-term franchise quarterback.

That's kind of misleading since it arbitrarily begins shortly after Rivers and Rodgers were drafted and excludes Mahomes on a technicality, who only played in the "empty the benches" season finale as a rookie.

[Ernie]

I think as long as a team has confidence in a rookie QB they can't get mismanaged by playing too early. Who were these Stain QB's that would've played better if they weren't rushed? They just weren't that good.. lol

Ben, Russell, Luck, Cam, Manning weren't mismanaged by playing them early. They came out slinging.

Look at Mason.. he sat and hasn't really benefited. Herbert sat a few games and looked good the moment he played. Is it because he sat or is it because he has IT?

and check this stat out:
Since 2006, no team that drafted a quarterback in the first two rounds sat him for the entirety of his rookie season and then saw him become a long-term franchise quarterback.

Gotta play these QB's early these days. No reason to wait.

Sure there is.. dont act like Pickett was a 4 year phenom at Pitt.. he was a little more than a 1 year wonder, playing against less than stellar competition... and when I say that.. dont think that I'm not rooting for the guy.
Just be real about it.
And on the flip side of your argument.. there are a lot of 1st round QBs that started early on it their rookie years... that didnt amount to jack..

[Ernie]

I'm OK with that if Pickett looks lost, but if they both look good and someone's top QB goes down in August?

Have to think long and hard about that.

Yea.. what if that guy that goes down is our guy? Say Pickett wins the job and then blows a knee in week 2... you okay with Mason... if Trubisky played well in preseason?
No way am I letting MT go for a mid round pick. Weve got him on the cheap.
Guys scream for quality depth at just about every position other than QB...
I'm fine with keeping him around for 2 years... even as a 1B type..

[Ernie]

It's pretty simple really... Let them compete in camp, and let the best man start week 1.

[feltdizz]

Sure there is.. dont act like Pickett was a 4 year phenom at Pitt.. he was a little more than a 1 year wonder, playing against less than stellar competition... and when I say that.. dont think that I'm not rooting for the guy.
Just be real about it.
And on the flip side of your argument.. there are a lot of 1st round QBs that started early on it their rookie years... that didnt amount to jack..

Was Herbert or Mahommes 4 year wonders? Dak Prescott? Joe Burrow?

I’m not saying Pickett is a Burrow but my point is we won’t know until we play him and IMO “sitting and learning” doesn’t really work.

I think playing in games is the only way to truly learn the position.

Jordan Love may end up being a good QB but we will never know until he plays multiple games.

and I agree, some won’t amount to jack BUT I think its better to find out early instead of 2 years into their rookie contract.

[feltdizz]

Yea.. what if that guy that goes down is our guy? Say Pickett wins the job and then blows a knee in week 2... you okay with Mason... if Trubisky played well in preseason?
No way am I letting MT go for a mid round pick. Weve got him on the cheap.
Guys scream for quality depth at just about every position other than QB...
I'm fine with keeping him around for 2 years... even as a 1B type..

On this I agree in theory.. if MT is better than Mason there is no reason to trade him given how cheap he is.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

On this I agree in theory.. if MT is better than Mason there is no reason to trade him given how cheap he is.

Cheap? He is scheduled to make 4 Million this year. Way too much for a 3rd string QB. If we trade him for something, I'll take it.

https://overthecap.com/player/mason-rudolph/6961/

[Ernie]

Was Herbert or Mahommes 4 year wonders? Dak Prescott? Joe Burrow?

I’m not saying Pickett is a Burrow but my point is we won’t know until we play him and IMO “sitting and learning” doesn’t really work.

I think playing in games is the only way to truly learn the position.

Jordan Love may end up being a good QB but we will never know until he plays multiple games.

and I agree, some won’t amount to jack BUT I think its better to find out early instead of 2 years into their rookie contract.

It depends on the situation and the other pieces in place.. and it's not just a matter of seeing if a guy can play..
Theres alot of info that has to be learned.. the "Mental" aspect of the game... and that's part of the process..

[whatever]

Cheap? He is scheduled to make 4 Million this year. Way too much for a 3rd string QB. If we trade him for something, I'll take it.

https://overthecap.com/player/mason-rudolph/6961/

What can you get for 4 million that would help the team more?

[hawaiiansteel]

Cheap? He is scheduled to make 4 Million this year. Way too much for a 3rd string QB. If we trade him for something, I'll take it.

https://overthecap.com/player/mason-rudolph/6961/

don't forget we would incur a dead cap hit of over a million $ by trading Rudolph so the cap savings would only be $3 million.

that's peanuts for a NFL QB, which is also all we would receive for him in trade.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

What can you get for 4 million that would help the team more?

Well a new punter for starters. Or a 3rd or 4th corner. They will help the team more than Rudolph.

[Bawb the Revelator]

It depends on the situation and the other pieces in place.. and it's not just a matter of seeing if a guy can play..
Theres alot of info that has to be learned.. the "Mental" aspect of the game... and that's part of the process..

Is $4 mil the limit for QB3? In the 2022 Steelers case, probably.
I'm clueless about Mason's hypothetical 'tude about being QB3
until some team's QB1's bell is rung for the year. It COULD BE
the Steelers BTW, but I'm just spitballing as usual